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12/14/2010  11:37 AM
Decent piece on the Spur system. http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/12/14/threes-hardly-a-long-shot/

I wish the Knicks writers would write stuff like this. Pieces that have information coming directly from players and coaches about the basketball details vs. opinions and speculation. I don't know if it's a lack of desire or MSGs draconian media policy but we're just not seeing enough of this info about the Knicks.

Highlights:

- The Spurs’ proficiency from long range has been a driving force behind their NBA-best 20-3 start. They have made 206 3-pointers, second only to New York.

- “The way the game is played now, you have to have someone to spread the floor,” Popovich said.

The Spurs’ surge in 3-point shooting is directly linked to ball movement. They are assisting at a rate unseen in San Antonio in 15 seasons (23.6 per game).

The concept, as Popovich teaches it, is called “good to great.”

If you have a good shot, the next guy in the rotation has a great shot,” Neal said.

Thoughts:

Players Spurs have spacing the floor:

Matt Bonner 3-4 M over next 3 seasons after this one
George Hill Rookie contract I think 1M this season, 2M, 3M
Gary Neal is making peanuts 500k this season 700k next season

RJ and Manu also accurate from downtown but at much higher costs since they have other skills.

All this gives me hope that the Knicks can find cheap rookies (crossing fingers on Rautins), D League type pickups (hello Shawn Williams, and Bonner types to space the floor.

Should Melo come...if we can find these cost effective floor spacers hopefully the ball keeps whizzing around and the offense keeps humming along. Quality big and backup PG..well that's another issue.

Article in full below:

Every morning before practice, Spurs players hit the floor to work on what coaches call “your shots.”

“They’re the shots you’re mainly going to get in the offense, that you have to be comfortable with,” guard Gary Neal said.

The definition of “your shots” is different for every player. To Neal, “your shots” encompasses a broad area.

“Anywhere behind the 3-point line,” he said.

What makes this Spurs team so unique, and so lethal, is that Neal has plenty of dead-eye company behind the arc.

Through 23 games, the Spurs lead the NBA in 3-point accuracy, hitting 41.4 percent. Heading into Monday’s games, no other team was shooting better than 39.1 percent.

If the Spurs maintain that pace, they could wind up challenging the league record, set in 1996-97 by the Charlotte Hornets, who made 42.8 percent of their threes that season. The Spurs’ club record is 40.7 percent, established in 2000-01.

“With 3-point shooting, you take open shots and hope it’s a night when they are going in,” said Matt Bonner, the league’s fifth-most accurate long-range shooter. “We’ve had more nights than not when we are making them.”

The Spurs’ proficiency from long range has been a driving force behind their NBA-best 20-3 start. They have made 206 3-pointers, second only to New York.

In Sunday’s 95-78 victory over Portland, the Spurs connected on 9 of 17 3-balls.

Three Spurs are enjoying career seasons from behind the arc — Bonner (50.8 percent), Richard Jefferson (46.3) and George Hill (40.4). Neal, a 26-year-old rookie, is shooting 41.3 percent.

The only Spurs shooter below his career 3-point percentage is Manu Ginobili, who leads the NBA in attempts (152) and is second in makes (56), but is hitting just 36.8 percent.

“Just to be on the court with a whole bunch of guys who are considered weapons — guys that if you leave them open, opponents know that guy is going to make a shot — that makes the offense flow a lot better,” Neal said.

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has often talked of the importance of 3-point shooting in his drive-and-kick system.

Much like how, in football, a deep threat in the passing game opens running lanes by moving defenders off the line of scrimmage, ace perimeter shooting can pull defenders away from the basket. That creates driving lanes for and space for big men.

“The way the game is played now, you have to have someone to spread the floor,” Popovich said.

The Spurs’ surge in 3-point shooting is directly linked to ball movement. They are assisting at a rate unseen in San Antonio in 15 seasons (23.6 per game).

The concept, as Popovich teaches it, is called “good to great.”

“If you have a good shot, the next guy in the rotation has a great shot,” Neal said.

The NBA is a league of adjustments, and the Spurs’ long-range brigade is braced for the day when opponents begin to run them off the 3-point stripe.

That day might already have arrived. Bonner, especially, has been finding open looks harder to come by recently, as teams have focused on denying him space along the arc.

Sunday against Portland, Bonner sprung free just once. Ginobili found him for a successful corner three.

The added attention isn’t an entirely disturbing development for the Spurs’ sharpshooters.

“My job here is to help out the stars,” Neal said. “If Matty and I can be on the court together, and that gives Manu or Tony (Parker) more room to penetrate and make plays, we’ve done our jobs.”

That remains the consolation for any well-defended 3-point shooter.

Hit enough of “your shots,” and it frees others to make theirs.

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martin
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12/14/2010  11:41 AM
Offensively speaking, seems like same philosophy as MDA's
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12/14/2010  11:51 AM
Our shooters seem to make a higher percentage of threes when they attack the rim first, keep the defense honest, and build confidence in their shot. When they start the game raining threes and stay behind the arc, they usually lose. Chandler and Gallo came around. Felton is still jacking up some bad threes but he is improving.
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12/14/2010  11:51 AM
The spurs are one of the few teams that seem to know what they want to do all of the times. And spacing and passing is a big part of that.

But what is most obvious: nearly all of their players play "the right way". They are just in synch with each other and the game they want to play. You wont see 3s early in the shotclock if they are not open. Noone is dribbling for extended time, they are constantly cutting and setting screens, just fun to watch.

Like the knicks. Only different is the knicks have their starting 5 in sync, not their bench. Its ok when turiaf comes in and its getting better with toney leading the bench, mostly because its only for like 8 minutes/game. But there are still these unpleasant broken plays were you just cringe and shake your head even before the shot gets to the ring.

But its pretty impressive how few teams are playing fully in a team concept. Of the top of my head of course the celtics, the magic, spurs, I think the lakers though I havent seen many games of 'em and the knicks. Missed some?
Good to be amongst them, right?!?

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12/14/2010  11:57 AM
It helps to have a system and coach in place for as long as the Spurs have. Players come to the Spurs knowing that there's a system in place that has obviously succeeded. They see Duncan, Parker, and Manu being held just as accountable as they are and buying into what Popp is doing. They know that they can be shipped out or traded if they don't get in line much easier than hoping their coach gets fired. Same thing in UTAH although that Jordan guy prevented the Mailman and Stockton from getting rings.

I would love to see that here. Hopefully MDA is that guy. It sounds like Amare believes in the system. Felton has to since he's having his best season ever. I hope we find our Sloan/Popp/Jackson and don't keep switching coaches every time we have a bad season.

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12/14/2010  12:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/14/2010  12:03 PM
martin wrote:Offensively speaking, seems like same philosophy as MDA's

He was gianing knowledge from MDA/coach k (who run the exact same system) during the olympics...now he has the same philosphy and the roster to run it well.

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12/14/2010  12:07 PM
Seems like they are compensating for Duncan's decline.
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12/14/2010  12:30 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Seems like they are compensating for Duncan's decline.

more like the dump it into duncun sht was getting old and predictable, enough to get swept out of the playoffs by a team who incorprates the run/spread offensie

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12/14/2010  12:37 PM
Very nice article which is relevant to the Knicks situation concerning Melo. It speaks volumes about the added value of quality 3 point shooters like Gallo. From the opposite viewpoint, it points out that having a much more predictable attack concentrated in the shooting of Melo, Felton, and Amare isn't necessarily a more efficient lineup situation for the Knicks.
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12/14/2010  12:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/14/2010  12:38 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Seems like they are compensating for Duncan's decline.

more like the dump it into duncun sht was getting old and predictable, enough to get swept out of the playoffs by a team who incorprates the run/spread offensie

Why was it getting old? Because Duncan has fallen off and it was less effective. They won multiple championships with that predictable offense. Teams still couldn't stop that predictable offense.

Stroking the 3 ball will improve any team because each shot is an extra point. Stroking 3's arent required to win championships.

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12/14/2010  12:40 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Seems like they are compensating for Duncan's decline.

more like the dump it into duncun sht was getting old and predictable, enough to get swept out of the playoffs by a team who incorprates the run/spread offensie

Why was it getting old? Because Duncan has fallen off and it was less effective. They won multiple championships with that predictable offense. Teams still couldn't stop that predictable offense.

Stroking the 3 ball will improve any team because each shot is an extra point. Stroking 3's arent required to win championships.

I don't think you can back up that statement. Most all of the recent championship teams were either very good 3point shooting teams or had a high volume of 3s.

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12/14/2010  1:16 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Seems like they are compensating for Duncan's decline.

more like the dump it into duncun sht was getting old and predictable, enough to get swept out of the playoffs by a team who incorprates the run/spread offensie

Why was it getting old? Because Duncan has fallen off and it was less effective. They won multiple championships with that predictable offense. Teams still couldn't stop that predictable offense.

Stroking the 3 ball will improve any team because each shot is an extra point. Stroking 3's arent required to win championships.

“The way the game is played now, you have to have someone to spread the floor,” Popovich said.

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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