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BRIGGS
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12/12/2010  9:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/12/2010  9:14 PM
Pts 19.6 FG% 58 3 pt 46 FG% EFG 69% reb 6.6 Blocks 1.1 assists 1.8 67-119 27/59


In terms of scoring the ball from the wing-- I doubt any player in the NBA who has averaged 20 points over their last 10 have an efg of 69%

One little knick knack that has shown up is that Wilson Chandler is becoming one of the better volume% 3 pt shooters in the entire NBA with the increased spacing the 4-1 set allows as well.

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12/12/2010  9:15 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Pts 19.6 FG% 58 3 pt 46 FG% EFG 69% reb 6.6 Blocks 1.1 assists 1.8 67-119 27/59


In terms of scoring the ball from the wing-- I doubt any player in the NBA who has averaged 20 points over their last 10 have an efg of 69%

One little knick knack that has shown up is that Wilson Chandler is becoming one of the better volume% 3 pt shooters in the entire NBA with the increased spacing the 4-1 set allows as well.

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The Knicks would be crazy to give up Chandler.

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12/12/2010  9:18 PM

Giving Wilson His Due

by Dan L.

When the Knicks were 3-8 and things were looking bleak different folks reacted differently to the frustration of what appeared to be another lost season. Bitterness and recrimination abounded. Some people lashed out at coach Mike D’Antoni. Others at certain players. Most of use are happy now that the Knicks are winning again though and it’s time for me to acknowledge that Wilson Chandler is playing great basketball.

I was really on Chandler’s case when the Knicks were struggling for shooting too many threes and not being aggressive enough with the basketball. He was shooting poorly and early and he was wasting possessions for a team trying to establish an offensive identity.

Well, he’s playing better now. Not only is he knocking down the corner three with stunning regularity, he’s hitting other threes with some regularity. The result is that his three point percentage is up to 36%. That’s quite a feat considering that when things were going bad he was leading the team in attempts and was hovering around 30%. He’s also learning that his bread is really buttered in the paint, and he’s been living inside of late. His overall field goal percentage has rocketed to 54% this month. That translates into career highs for Wilson in shooting efficiency measured by True Shooting % and also Effective Field Goal %.

He’s still not drawing enough fouls but for now I’ll take the improvement in his shooting numbers.

It’s already been acknowledged that he’s become a better rebounder and shot blocker this year, so his overall game has improved this year too.

Wilson is having a breakout year and perhaps not coincidentally, so are the Knicks.

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12/12/2010  9:22 PM
wilson is playing great. he's really grown into that marion type of 4 (that's not really a 4) that d'antoni seems to need to succeed with his spread offense.

i don't think they'll trade him.

those advocating no melo trade should think about the fact that denver doesn't want wilson and IF we wait for the summer to sign melo, we'll probably have to let wilson go to accomplish that.

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12/12/2010  9:32 PM
Highest Needs right now is one more "Creator" & a Legitimate Imposing Big Man who rebounds...I would swap Melo for Gallo & AR in a heart beat..Wilson is a better two way player than Gallo..Gallo is not the sharp shooter I thought he was. I have the same confidence in Gallo's Shot as I do for Wilson's Shot.
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12/12/2010  9:58 PM
I don't think adding another scorer will make a significatn difference if we do not add a big body that can rebound and play post defense. That should be the number one priority.

I wonder if a Kurt Thomas type of payer is out there nowdays, KT would have been a perfect C for this system.

A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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12/12/2010  10:58 PM
Like I said. He's better than Joe Johnson.
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12/12/2010  11:00 PM
I will never get why most Knicks fans prefer Danilo Gallinari over Wilson Chandler. I mean, it's not even close!! Chandler is by far the better, more consistent and more versitle player. I really hope we trade Gallinari to Denver and get to keep and resign Chandler longterm. He's the perfect combo forward backup behind Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony.
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12/12/2010  11:07 PM
iSergio wrote:I will never get why most Knicks fans prefer Danilo Gallinari over Wilson Chandler. I mean, it's not even close!! Chandler is by far the better, more consistent and more versitle player. I really hope we trade Gallinari to Denver and get to keep and resign Chandler longterm. He's the perfect combo forward backup behind Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony.

sometimes you just have to project a players upside, just like the draft.

Wilson has a year on Gallo. If Wilson played like he did last year, we wouldn't be saying the same things. What is Gallo gonna be like in a year?

Both are versatile, young and still growing.

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12/12/2010  11:21 PM
besides some forced threes, Chandler looked fantastic tonight. You could tell the team was trying to get him the ball though. He looked great at the Garden today
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12/13/2010  12:50 AM
made some great moves in transition too... Look, I can see trading him because wings should look good in this system if they're rangy and athletic. However, you'd better get the right fit in return.

I can see moving him for a wing that can help you with PG duties, or someone who is a younger version of Wilson because its his contract year, but you had darn well better get a guy back who has a low salary that's controlled for a couple more years.

OJ Mayo gets a big salary compared to Will. He's not a fit.

Two of my favorites, Maynor and Larry Sanders have skills that fit a need and salary numbers that would be a better match to Will's...

Mullens, a Briggs guy would be a fit.

I don't know... Donnie's made some good moves since his low point (drafting Hill) but he's got to get it right with his trades or non-trades this year. I wonder what the number would be to extend Chandler's deal. That would impact his value to the franchise quite a bit.

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12/13/2010  8:55 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/13/2010  8:56 AM
"Rumble young man, rumble!"

SuprememComm - point of order, with The Mayor there is no such thing as a "forced" three.

There are only threes that do not go through the basket.

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12/13/2010  9:14 AM
Wilson is looking great. He was our best player yesterday in what arguably was our biggest win of the season. And that alley-oop was awesome. It's not just the numbers Briggs points to. It's his defense, his toughness and his smarts. He's not playing like the low bball iq, shrink-in-crunch-time player that some have accused him of being.

All that said, it's dangerous to judge a player in the middle of a hot streak. He's not as good as he's been playing. Nor is Amar'e or Felton, for that matter. But I think they're all close to as good. Over a longer period, they'll all shoot at somewhat lower percentages (which will drop Ray's assists totals), they'll all miss on some of the key crunch-time makes they've been contributing, but they're all playing well enough that a slight drop in production still leaves them as very good to excellent players.

BTW, it's also dangerous to judge a player in a cold-ish streak. Gallo is a better shooter than he's been showing, I'm pretty sure. It's to his credit that he's still helping the team on most nights, even when he's missing some open looks that I expect him to knock down. Over the long run, he will convert the vast majority of open looks. After all, he's the best 3-point shooter has every seen.

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12/13/2010  10:01 AM
Has Wilson Chandler Arrived?

- by Mike Kurylo

However this year, Chandler has taken some solid steps forward in being a more productive player. I’ve highlighted the current season in orange (stats through the first 22 games).


Shooting Stats:

Season PER TS% eFG% G MP FGA 3PA FTA PTS 3P% FT%
2008 11.7 0.480 0.457 35 685 12.7 1.6 2.8 13.4 0.300 0.630
2009 12.9 0.515 0.481 82 2735 13.9 4.1 2.8 15.6 0.328 0.795
2010 13.7 0.534 0.502 65 2320 13.3 2.3 2.5 15.4 0.267 0.806
2011 18.0 0.562 0.523 22 717 15.2 5.3 3.5 18.8 0.349 0.829

Prior to this year Chandler has been below average with regards to efficiency. However this year Chandler’s overall efficiency (56.2% ts%) has spiked upwards, and is now above the league average (usually around 54% ts%). Last year, Chandler increased his efficiency by eschewing the long ball, but this year he’s improved that area to a respectable level (34.9% 3p%) and is now attempting a career high 5.3 threes per 36 minutes. Additionally he’s drawn contact more often as well (3.5 fta/36). This improved efficiency has given Chandler the highest volume scoring (18.8 pts/36) of his career as well.

However, scoring isn’t the only aspect that Chandler has made positive strides in.


Non-Shooting Stats

Season ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF
2008 2.0 4.7 6.7 1.7 0.8 0.8 1.4 4.4
2009 1.2 4.7 5.9 2.2 0.9 1.0 1.8 3.3
2010 1.4 4.0 5.4 2.1 0.7 0.8 1.7 2.9
2011 1.5 5.0 6.5 1.8 0.7 2.0 1.5 3.5


Chandler has also improved his shot blocking, doubling his rate. Although the increase in shooting can be attributed to his own development, this improvement is most likely a result of where he plays. In previous seasons Chandler has been primarily a shooting guard, but this year, he’s seen a majority of time at both forward spots. This change his given “Ill-Will” more time near the hoop which has resulted in more opportunities for blocking shots.

If Chandler can shoot three pointers at a decent rate, keep his efficiency above average, and turn back a fair amount of shots, then he’s going to have a good career in the NBA. However it’s important to remember that this is only a quarter of a season, and even a full year at this pace doesn’t mean that Chandler has arrived. Three point percentage is especially prone to fluctuation, and a regression there could put him back in the category of inefficient scorer. Consider that over the first three years of his career, Chandler appeared to be yet another athletically superior player who failed to grasp what actually wins games. From that perspective, then his current season is a good sign for future development.

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12/13/2010  10:03 AM
Against Denver, Felton got Chandler involved early and Wilson got some quick pts in the paint and stayed aggressive. He then started taking threes and hitting them. When Chandler starts the game by launching threes it usually isn't a good thing. He tends to zone out behind the arc. Hope Felton makes a habit of getting Chandler involved in the offense early.
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12/13/2010  10:03 AM
People forget if we just wait for Carmelo Anthony this summer, we lose Wilson Chandler and Ronny Turiaf for nothing. So we are not getting Melo for free. And I really want to keep Chandler and Turiaf.

*Hope Denver takes Danilo Gallinari & Anthony Randolph

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12/13/2010  10:11 AM
OMG Wilson Chandler is having a career high year in a contract year. I have never seen that before.

This is the same Wilson Chandler. Only difference is he asserting himself more ensure he gets his stats. His stats are practically identical to his previous year just with greater efficieny thanks to Amare.

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12/13/2010  10:19 AM
stop me if i'm wrong here...but chandler didn't start to break out until he was moved to PF...a position he prefers. By default, this moved Amare to C. If/when the Knicks fill the C role....Chandler is the odd man out.....otoh, if memphis wants to move Mayo and would include Gasol, i'd be listening....i think Chandlers value is high right now and we should get a nice complimentary piece for him in any package if we are goint to mess with our chemistry...it needs to make us better
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12/13/2010  10:26 AM
AnubisADL wrote:OMG Wilson Chandler is having a career high year in a contract year. I have never seen that before.

This is the same Wilson Chandler. Only difference is he asserting himself more ensure he gets his stats. His stats are practically identical to his previous year just with greater efficieny thanks to Amare.

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You can take that another way Amear playing with Chandler and Gallo is making him a better player in this system and on to a canadate for the MVP. It goes both ways.

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12/13/2010  10:27 AM
AnubisADL wrote:OMG Wilson Chandler is having a career high year in a contract year. I have never seen that before.

This is the same Wilson Chandler. Only difference is he asserting himself more ensure he gets his stats. His stats are practically identical to his previous year just with greater efficieny thanks to Amare.

the guy’s game has been steadily improving every year he's been in the league. this particular year of his ongoing upward curve happens to be a contract year. no sudden "contract year jump."

he's more assertive and more efficient? those are the two elements that many of us have been saying he needs to develop to get to the next level.

he's there.

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