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12/10/2010  10:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2010  10:41 PM
Anthony Randolph seems frustrated at being out of Mike D'Antoni's rotation.

"I have no choice. I have to deal with it," Randolph said.

Asked if he is confident that he will get another opportunity to prove himself to the coach, Randolph said "No."

D'Antoni expressed the opposite point of view.

"I'd be very surprised, it's a long year, if things don't come around where you get a heck of a chance," D'Antoni said.

Source: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/70512/20101210/randolph_frustrated_in_new_york/

Right on time with our tough schedule.

Before anyone jumps down my throat, clearly by D'Antoni's comment that Randolph will get the Jordan Hill treatment for the foreseeable future.

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12/10/2010  10:41 PM
Who cares? Anthony Randolph is a total scrub.
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12/10/2010  10:44 PM
Aight...but what question was he asked specifically? Doesn't sound like he's in the dog house according to the coach
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12/10/2010  10:57 PM
GEEZ AnubisADL, is this really an issue? We all know that this team is playing for something this year. AR looked lost and I would assume that he still looks lost in practice. As bad as our need is for a big if he doesn't play during this 25 game stretch that will tell me everything I need to know about his development. If he plays I can assume Mike saw some spark from him. Now is not the time for him to get all sad face Freakin MAN UP and put in work. Force Mike to play you!!!
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12/10/2010  11:03 PM
When a guy looks dumb, there's a very good chance he is dumb.
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12/10/2010  11:05 PM
Didn't we have a really lousy record playing a deep bench? And aren't we 12-1 since tightening up the rotation?

Why not let the guy mature a bit and let the men play, it seems to be working.

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12/10/2010  11:11 PM
Mike said "if he don't turn it around".

He had great opportunity and other guys are better. When he is better than them , he'll play. Williams jumped over him and Walker. If we not winning it might be different.

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12/10/2010  11:24 PM
iSergio wrote:Who cares? Anthony Randolph is a total scrub.

11.6 points / 6.5 rebounds / 1.5 blocks in 22.7 mpg last year... is he a scrub or is he just not getting an opportunity to play? i would say it's more of the latter.

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12/10/2010  11:33 PM
TMS wrote:
iSergio wrote:Who cares? Anthony Randolph is a total scrub.

11.6 points / 6.5 rebounds / 1.5 blocks in 22.7 mpg last year... is he a scrub or is he just not getting an opportunity to play? i would say it's more of the latter.

You more than anyone should know that stats aren't the only thing to go by when it comes to this game. AR has to be in the flow here. He can't just wing it and get numbers here. This as i've said before is like a ballet, if you don't know the steps you're gonna be in the way. AR has to learn how to play on this level in a system that is very well orchestrated and efficient.

Mike gave him the blueprint. Just get in there and rebound, defend, move the ball and move himself. Don't try to do too much. Let the game come to you. It's really that simple.

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12/10/2010  11:35 PM
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:
iSergio wrote:Who cares? Anthony Randolph is a total scrub.

11.6 points / 6.5 rebounds / 1.5 blocks in 22.7 mpg last year... is he a scrub or is he just not getting an opportunity to play? i would say it's more of the latter.

You more than anyone should know that stats aren't the only thing to go by when it comes to this game. AR has to be in the flow here. He can't just wing it and get numbers here. This as i've said before is like a ballet, if you don't know the steps you're gonna be in the way. AR has to learn how to play on this level in a system that is very well orchestrated and efficient.

Mike gave him the blueprint. Just get in there and rebound, defend, move the ball and move himself. Don't try to do too much. Let the game come to you. It's really that simple.

what's that got anything to do with him being a scrub? so he's struggling to grasp the system... it happens... that doesn't mean he's a scrub... kid showed plenty enough last year to know this.

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12/10/2010  11:39 PM
TMS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:
iSergio wrote:Who cares? Anthony Randolph is a total scrub.

11.6 points / 6.5 rebounds / 1.5 blocks in 22.7 mpg last year... is he a scrub or is he just not getting an opportunity to play? i would say it's more of the latter.

You more than anyone should know that stats aren't the only thing to go by when it comes to this game. AR has to be in the flow here. He can't just wing it and get numbers here. This as i've said before is like a ballet, if you don't know the steps you're gonna be in the way. AR has to learn how to play on this level in a system that is very well orchestrated and efficient.

Mike gave him the blueprint. Just get in there and rebound, defend, move the ball and move himself. Don't try to do too much. Let the game come to you. It's really that simple.

what's that got anything to do with him being a scrub? so he's struggling to grasp the system... it happens... that doesn't mean he's a scrub... kid showed plenty enough last year to know this.

I never called him a scrub. I like him, but at the same time let's not try to use those numbers to show that somehow he's not getting a fair shot. Mike has no reason at all to be against the kid. This is all about AR and nothing else. He'll give him another chance but for now he plays the guys he thinks will give him what he wants. Evidently he's still not playing better than Timo and that's saying a lot.

People think that there's a similarity between the GS fast pace and Mike's and there isn't a similarity except for the fact that they like to play fast. The actual plays and emphasis of the offense is different. AR needs to focus his energy on doing the other things beside looking for his offense. I'm positive that he'll eventually get it.

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12/10/2010  11:52 PM
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:
iSergio wrote:Who cares? Anthony Randolph is a total scrub.

11.6 points / 6.5 rebounds / 1.5 blocks in 22.7 mpg last year... is he a scrub or is he just not getting an opportunity to play? i would say it's more of the latter.

You more than anyone should know that stats aren't the only thing to go by when it comes to this game. AR has to be in the flow here. He can't just wing it and get numbers here. This as i've said before is like a ballet, if you don't know the steps you're gonna be in the way. AR has to learn how to play on this level in a system that is very well orchestrated and efficient.

Mike gave him the blueprint. Just get in there and rebound, defend, move the ball and move himself. Don't try to do too much. Let the game come to you. It's really that simple.

what's that got anything to do with him being a scrub? so he's struggling to grasp the system... it happens... that doesn't mean he's a scrub... kid showed plenty enough last year to know this.

I never called him a scrub. I like him, but at the same time let's not try to use those numbers to show that somehow he's not getting a fair shot. Mike has no reason at all to be against the kid. This is all about AR and nothing else. He'll give him another chance but for now he plays the guys he thinks will give him what he wants. Evidently he's still not playing better than Timo and that's saying a lot.

People think that there's a similarity between the GS fast pace and Mike's and there isn't a similarity except for the fact that they like to play fast. The actual plays and emphasis of the offense is different. AR needs to focus his energy on doing the other things beside looking for his offense. I'm positive that he'll eventually get it.

iSergio called him a scrub & i responded w/my disagreement... i think the kid's got a boatload of talent & has shown enough last season to lead me to believe he could put up #'s again if given the opportunity.

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12/11/2010  12:17 AM
TMS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:
iSergio wrote:Who cares? Anthony Randolph is a total scrub.

11.6 points / 6.5 rebounds / 1.5 blocks in 22.7 mpg last year... is he a scrub or is he just not getting an opportunity to play? i would say it's more of the latter.

You more than anyone should know that stats aren't the only thing to go by when it comes to this game. AR has to be in the flow here. He can't just wing it and get numbers here. This as i've said before is like a ballet, if you don't know the steps you're gonna be in the way. AR has to learn how to play on this level in a system that is very well orchestrated and efficient.

Mike gave him the blueprint. Just get in there and rebound, defend, move the ball and move himself. Don't try to do too much. Let the game come to you. It's really that simple.

what's that got anything to do with him being a scrub? so he's struggling to grasp the system... it happens... that doesn't mean he's a scrub... kid showed plenty enough last year to know this.

I never called him a scrub. I like him, but at the same time let's not try to use those numbers to show that somehow he's not getting a fair shot. Mike has no reason at all to be against the kid. This is all about AR and nothing else. He'll give him another chance but for now he plays the guys he thinks will give him what he wants. Evidently he's still not playing better than Timo and that's saying a lot.

People think that there's a similarity between the GS fast pace and Mike's and there isn't a similarity except for the fact that they like to play fast. The actual plays and emphasis of the offense is different. AR needs to focus his energy on doing the other things beside looking for his offense. I'm positive that he'll eventually get it.

iSergio called him a scrub & i responded w/my disagreement... i think the kid's got a boatload of talent & has shown enough last season to lead me to believe he could put up #'s again if given the opportunity.

You know what TMS--hes got talent--a good deal of it--but I dont think hes a fit here. He's in MDA's sht house and the odd of getting out are smallish. Hes looking over his shoulder--hell never be comfortable here now. We have a very good team--we could gave a contending team if we could get two impact players one a big one a scorer. I don't think Mosgov is a savior for this team. It looked good having both Randolph and Mosgov I mean if it worked with what we have--it would've been great--but I think we have way to many wasted roster spots and a dire need to improve the bench and get another big .

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12/11/2010  12:32 AM
You know, sometimes its okay to just develop a layer slowly. You don't have to play 10+ guys a night.

Turiaf is brittle, Amare or Moz could go down. AR will get a chance to play again, and hopefully when he does he'll be ready. He's not well schooled, give them time.

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12/11/2010  12:41 AM
I think Timo will eventually develop into a very useful C and I expect that if he's not traded, AR will eventually be a very good PF/C for this team as well. Both players have the raw talent, they just need to be trained, so there's no need for panic when we have one of the leagues youngest teams.
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12/11/2010  1:46 AM
MDA has shown that he will play the guys who can play his style of ball and contribute accordingly.

He has also shown that he will sit guys who can play his style of ball but not contribute.

The funny thing is that MDA's "system" has a reputation for giving players a lot of freedom, but you still have to make the right decisions and then execute. I have a feeling that Randolph's issue is that not only is he having trouble learning what he can or cannot do, but that he is not executing even when he does make the correct decision.

I've been surprised with Randolph's play when he was getting a chance to perform. As Briggs pointed out earlier in the season, he does not seem like the leaper he once was. His game in the post is also lacking, and I've been continually frustrated by the fact that he will not use the backboard when taking short jumpers, despite a shooting motion that does not allow him to get a comfortable arc on his shorter shots.

Randolph's biggest issue, though, and one I commented on when he was with GS, is that he simply wants to do too much, and seems unwilling to accept the fact that he is role player, and not a Lebron type do it all guy. Until he realizes this and shows he can be a role player he is not going to get any minutes.

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12/11/2010  10:21 AM
Did anyone actually read what d'antoni said? You guys are so starved for a controversy that you aren't actually reading the quote. If you actually. Read it he says its a long year and he will be surprised if there doesn't come a time where you get a heck of a chance. He mentions nothing about randolph not getting time. As a matter of fact the author even says that dantoni said the opposite of what randolph said. Randolph is just acting like a baby.

Reading comprehension people

Randdolph will get a shot if he works hard, but this statement just show how immature he is. I would not be surprised if heis pulling a darko.

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12/11/2010  10:26 AM
Nalod wrote:Mike said "if he don't turn it around".

He had great opportunity and other guys are better. When he is better than them , he'll play. Williams jumped over him and Walker. If we not winning it might be different.

Mike never said "if he don't turn it around"

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12/11/2010  10:57 AM
BlueSeats wrote:You know, sometimes its okay to just develop a layer slowly. You don't have to play 10+ guys a night.

Turiaf is brittle, Amare or Moz could go down. AR will get a chance to play again, and hopefully when he does he'll be ready. He's not well schooled, give them time.

I agree. We're doing well, I don't get the sense of urgency in getting rid of him. Besides his value is probably at an all time low so it makes no sense to trade him now.

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12/11/2010  11:02 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
TMS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
TMS wrote:
iSergio wrote:Who cares? Anthony Randolph is a total scrub.

11.6 points / 6.5 rebounds / 1.5 blocks in 22.7 mpg last year... is he a scrub or is he just not getting an opportunity to play? i would say it's more of the latter.

You more than anyone should know that stats aren't the only thing to go by when it comes to this game. AR has to be in the flow here. He can't just wing it and get numbers here. This as i've said before is like a ballet, if you don't know the steps you're gonna be in the way. AR has to learn how to play on this level in a system that is very well orchestrated and efficient.

Mike gave him the blueprint. Just get in there and rebound, defend, move the ball and move himself. Don't try to do too much. Let the game come to you. It's really that simple.

what's that got anything to do with him being a scrub? so he's struggling to grasp the system... it happens... that doesn't mean he's a scrub... kid showed plenty enough last year to know this.

I never called him a scrub. I like him, but at the same time let's not try to use those numbers to show that somehow he's not getting a fair shot. Mike has no reason at all to be against the kid. This is all about AR and nothing else. He'll give him another chance but for now he plays the guys he thinks will give him what he wants. Evidently he's still not playing better than Timo and that's saying a lot.

People think that there's a similarity between the GS fast pace and Mike's and there isn't a similarity except for the fact that they like to play fast. The actual plays and emphasis of the offense is different. AR needs to focus his energy on doing the other things beside looking for his offense. I'm positive that he'll eventually get it.

iSergio called him a scrub & i responded w/my disagreement... i think the kid's got a boatload of talent & has shown enough last season to lead me to believe he could put up #'s again if given the opportunity.

You know what TMS--hes got talent--a good deal of it--but I dont think hes a fit here. He's in MDA's sht house and the odd of getting out are smallish. Hes looking over his shoulder--hell never be comfortable here now. We have a very good team--we could gave a contending team if we could get two impact players one a big one a scorer. I don't think Mosgov is a savior for this team. It looked good having both Randolph and Mosgov I mean if it worked with what we have--it would've been great--but I think we have way to many wasted roster spots and a dire need to improve the bench and get another big .

i have no idea if he's a fit here or not as i haven't seen him even get a real chance to show much of anything... there has to be a reason why he's not seeing minutes right now & it can't be because he's making mistakes on the floor because Mozgov looks like crap out there as well... like i said there's got to be something going on, or not going on in practice, to explain his lack of playing time... if he's not a fit, it's because he & the coach aren't on the same page, & not because of his skillset, because from what he showed last year, i think he would be a great complement to Amare's game in our frontcourt.

& for anyone rushing to MDA's defense on this thread, i haven't uttered a single criticism at MDA over his decision for not playing AR so relax... i just wish AR can find a role on this team because i think he can help this team w/his skillset... yes, i realize it's all up to AR to show MDA he deserves playing time in practice... i never argued this... i just don't like to see talented players not getting utilized... hopefully AR doesn't get too discouraged & works even harder.

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