Doleac 18 pt.s!! 8 boards!!

Are those all time highs for Doleac?

Might the big D take over for Deke?

maybe it's the plays, maybe it's van horn but all i can really say is that lenny has kvh playing tight. i mean look at lenny. as soon as kvh makes a mistake, he's out. no tolerance whatsoever. one bad play on the defense, he's yanked. and you can see it - kvh is playing TIGHT. he's passing up wide open 3's, going to the basket, and coming up short every time - that's a huge sign he's tight. he's looking over his shoulder. maybe lenny is trying to motivate him, but i don't think the no-tolerance way is to do it with kvh. i don't see him yanking kurt or anyone else after a bonehead play. in fact, he gives more leeway to othella as well. just look at his expressions when it comes to kvh. i'm know all the kvh haters are gonna not like what i just wrote, but it's true.

is kvh the answer? no
should kvh post up more? yes
is it his fault? i don't know

we all know what we have in kvh. don't expect him to all of the sudden become the savior. he's actually contributing more to the team than h20 has this season.

if we could move him for a legit post up player, then yes, we should do it. but i'm very worried at how lenny is using him and NOT using him. especially during the 4th tonight, since h20 was out again b/c of his knee.

if you guys want to get on somebody, then let's get on kurt. he hurts us way more than he helps us. if he doesn't hit his first 2 jumpers, then he's gone from the game - with either stupid fouls, or just plain disappears. as long as he's our starting PF, we are never going to make that next step.

Now that Shandon's streak is broken, he's gotta go. He didn't even show up to the game tonight because of a "migrane". That's a big punk move right there. LOL

If Lenny dont break Shandon's streak the migranes is not an issue(LOL), Shandon off the bench dumps 15 points and we win.

Just wait till the halo effect is gone......

Posted by djsunyc:

maybe it's the plays, maybe it's van horn but all i can really say is that lenny has kvh playing tight. i mean look at lenny. as soon as kvh makes a mistake, he's out. no tolerance whatsoever. one bad play on the defense, he's yanked. and you can see it - kvh is playing TIGHT. he's passing up wide open 3's, going to the basket, and coming up short every time - that's a huge sign he's tight. he's looking over his shoulder. maybe lenny is trying to motivate him, but i don't think the no-tolerance way is to do it with kvh. i don't see him yanking kurt or anyone else after a bonehead play. in fact, he gives more leeway to othella as well. just look at his expressions when it comes to kvh. i'm know all the kvh haters are gonna not like what i just wrote, but it's true.

is kvh the answer? no
should kvh post up more? yes
is it his fault? i don't know

we all know what we have in kvh. don't expect him to all of the sudden become the savior. he's actually contributing more to the team than h20 has this season.

if we could move him for a legit post up player, then yes, we should do it. but i'm very worried at how lenny is using him and NOT using him. especially during the 4th tonight, since h20 was out again b/c of his knee.

if you guys want to get on somebody, then let's get on kurt. he hurts us way more than he helps us. if he doesn't hit his first 2 jumpers, then he's gone from the game - with either stupid fouls, or just plain disappears. as long as he's our starting PF, we are never going to make that next step.

you're totally right about kthomas. his only offense if wide open mid range jumpers, and he dissapears once he misses a couple. kvh isnt a savior on his own, but once we finally put some talent at the 4 spot, or the 5, kvh can be a fantastic piece of the puzzle i think.

Knicks just F@#%ed this game up. They need to start playing better to get to .500 ball

There aren't too many games left so after the all-star break, they have to get on a consistent winning mode majority of the time.

They cannot lose to teams like Maimi. That was a winnable game especially @ home..

Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Knicks just F@#%ed this game up. They need to start playing better to get to .500 ball

There aren't too many games left so after the all-star break, they have to get on a consistent winning mode majority of the time.

They cannot lose to teams like Maimi. That was a winnable game especially @ home..

I think we also saw once and for all that F.Williams is NOT a 2 guard. He looked clueless out there without the ball. I know Marbury is our star PG and all, but for that Marbury and F.Williams backcourt to maximize it's capabilities Frank MUST play the 1 and Marbury the 2. In just about all the plays in which Frank was the PG we scored. Not the case when Marbury was the PG.

[Edited by - NYKDUNK on 01/25/2004 09:52:11]

Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:

This game was lost by MArbury. He was not aggressive enough. We are not going to win if he is scoring 4 points, it is that simple. Houston's Knee is a MAJOR concern the rest of this season.

I liked the linueps last night. the 2nd unit was doing well and i credit Wilkens for sticking with them.

As for the evaluiation period being shut on Wilkens in 4 games, I laugh at that. This is from the same guy who gave Chaney excuse after excuse. The first being, he needs a training camp. Well, let's give Wilkens the same at the very least.

NY will not win without Stephon and Allan going at least 20/20

I thought Lenny was marbury's mentor ? Why didn't coach tell Marbury since Houston was injured he had to take it to the hole and score more . The game has passed Lenny by like Vince Carter said. To bad because Marbury is a talent.

Posted by gogetit:

Like I said before we should have killed the marbury deal and got sheed and let Frank work his way into the starting pg. Low post athletic problem solved. We could have given Portland Dice expiring contract. Zeke is not the messiah he's a snake oil salesman and LENNY is his GOFER.

That was a possibility! I guess Thomas already had Williams packaged in another deal.

Look, at least Zeke took a gamble. Eventually we'll see how this trade pays off in the long run.

Look, Zeke got himself a superstar Pg. Somehow, he'll get that post-up big man one way or another.

Don't think it will happen this season, more like during the off-season.

Posted by gogetit:

Like I said before we should have killed the marbury deal and got sheed and let Frank work his way into the starting pg. Low post athletic problem solved. We could have given Portland Dice expiring contract. Zeke is not the messiah he's a snake oil salesman and LENNY is his GOFER.

Sorry but I can't disagree more.Apparently you aren't a knick fan.How could you be putting down Isiah with what he has done for this team.Wilkens isn't anyones gofer.Were you happy with the direction of this team before Zeke came to this team?Did you actually look foward to seeing a knick game 4 weeks ago?come on ,you can't make chicken salad out of chicken ****, but Zeke is coming close.What was the future 4 weeks ago?Sheed would not have changed the fortunes of this team by much at all by himself--a game against Minn 2 weeks ago vs Garnett ,sheed got 7 pts and 3 rebs--WOW. Be Patient-Lennys had only 3 practices since he took over and they still need more talent .