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12/10/2010  10:54 AM
In Espn insider, there is an article about if the draft had been redone today where would guys be picked. David Thorpe has Landry Fields listed as the 8th pick going to the Clippers.

Pick No. 8: Landry Fields to the Clippers
If Aminu hadn't been available, Fields would have been a fantastic left-field pick. It's hard to pinpoint exactly what position Landry Fields is best suited for in the NBA, but it's easy to say he's an excellent wing player who would have fit beautifully next to Eric Gordon. Fields is one of the top rebounders of this class, and his feel for the game also would work well with a beastly scorer like Blake Griffin, who demands extra attention from defenders. Fields can slash and pass -- both necessities when dealing with rotating defenses -- and his shot looks like it will be solid, too.

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Honestly, I agree with him. Other than Wall and Favors, I cannot think of too many players in this rookie class that are better than Fields. Great find by Walsh.

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12/10/2010  10:57 AM
I can't argue too much with his draft spot as there are some pretty good "potential" athletes selected in front of him, who are younger of course, though Evans is the same age. I think we will know what Fields real draft slot should have been after a couple of years, at least.

What we all can agree upon... We got the STEAL OF THE DRAFT.

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12/10/2010  11:03 AM
its what makes Walsh a good GM. Look at the body of work. Yes Hill was a bad pick and a mistake. Yes he whiffed on Lebron. Yes he paid a lot just to lose JJ/Hill's contracts. But Gallo has been good, Felton and Amare amazing, Fields the steal of the draft by far, Mosgov has good potential, AR has potential to be a good player, he's held onto Chandler, the coach is establish and doing well... he's built a good team with a lot of moves. Mostly he's stuck to a plan, even when a trade or pick didnt turn out.

How do you not love Fields.

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12/10/2010  11:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2010  11:14 AM
LOL. The GM that did that would likely not have a job next year.

Fields is clearly a first round pick but top 10 pick is REACHING.

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12/10/2010  11:22 AM
AnubisADL wrote:LOL. The GM that did that would likely not have a job next year.

Fields is clearly a first round pick but top 10 pick is REACHING.

why?

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12/10/2010  11:23 AM
AnubisADL wrote:LOL. The GM that did that would likely not have a job next year.

Fields is clearly a first round pick but top 10 pick is REACHING.

Well, there are two - Wall and Favors, who clearly go ahead of him. But who are the other 8 you take ahead of Fields?

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12/10/2010  11:24 AM
How is top 10 reaching. A player like Battier comes to mind. That kid was a top 10 selection and has little to no offensive game and is a good defender.

Fields passes, defends, rebounds and can score the ball when his number is called. He is playing 30 plus minutes a night and is leading the league in rebounding at the guard position.
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12/10/2010  11:25 AM
AnubisADL wrote:LOL. The GM that did that would likely not have a job next year.

Fields is clearly a first round pick but top 10 pick is REACHING.

care to expound on this?

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12/10/2010  11:25 AM
MS wrote:How is top 10 reaching. A player like Battier comes to mind. That kid was a top 10 selection and has little to no offensive game and is a good defender.

Fields passes, defends, rebounds and can score the ball when his number is called. He is playing 30 plus minutes a night and is leading the league in rebounding at the guard position.

I see Fields being more skilled than Battier. The guy has some moves but just hasn't shown then yet. His mid range game is pretty rock solid.

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12/10/2010  11:30 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:LOL. The GM that did that would likely not have a job next year.

Fields is clearly a first round pick but top 10 pick is REACHING.

care to expound on this?

My guess would be that he is saying you couldve dropped back significantly to pick him up. I believe the Knicks had him ranked 25 so there is no chance that if we were picking that high we wouldve taken him.

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12/10/2010  11:31 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
MS wrote:How is top 10 reaching. A player like Battier comes to mind. That kid was a top 10 selection and has little to no offensive game and is a good defender.

Fields passes, defends, rebounds and can score the ball when his number is called. He is playing 30 plus minutes a night and is leading the league in rebounding at the guard position.

I see Fields being more skilled than Battier. The guy has some moves but just hasn't shown then yet. His mid range game is pretty rock solid.

I think Fields is a cross between Marion and Battier but also with a flair to take the ball to the basket.

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12/10/2010  11:47 AM
8th pick is pretty fair. There is still always going to be the potential factor that puts some players over him. Doesn't mean they will be better, just a good chance down the road. Fields is has more potential than Battier and that type of player belongs in the top 10 because you know they are a starter on a good team, but typically top 5 are star potential players, which he probably is not.
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12/10/2010  11:49 AM
AnubisADL wrote:LOL. The GM that did that would likely not have a job next year.

Fields is clearly a first round pick but top 10 pick is REACHING.

I understand not taking Fields in the top-10 because clearly no one saw him anywhere near there, but it is not a reach after seeing him play for an extended period of time. He is top-10 worthy no question about it.
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12/10/2010  11:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2010  11:52 AM
It hit me a little late but AnubisADL seems to want attention
Anyway, it added some nice replies, thanks Anubis...

Edit - Forgot to mention, when all is said and done and those drafted in the top 10 on potential, who won't amount to their selection, I do be Fields is top 6.

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12/10/2010  12:07 PM
He's averaging 10 points and almost 8 rebounds a game as a guard. If at his peak he maintains or improves that rebounding rate and gets his scoring up to 14/15 points a game - that's a successful lotto pick, I think.

The only thing I don't like him doing right now is shooting the three - he's one guy on the team who shouldn't be doing that.
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12/10/2010  12:13 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2010  12:15 PM
The draft is based on potential and the players current body of work.

Fields is not depended on too carry the team. Other draft picks are expected to carry a significant load.

Fields job is to crash the boards and sometimes contribute points.

Guys like Johnson, Cousins, Monroe, Aminu, George, Hayward, Aldrich, and Henry aren't chopped liver.

I recall the Mozgov is a lottery pick thread.

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12/10/2010  12:22 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
MS wrote:How is top 10 reaching. A player like Battier comes to mind. That kid was a top 10 selection and has little to no offensive game and is a good defender.

Fields passes, defends, rebounds and can score the ball when his number is called. He is playing 30 plus minutes a night and is leading the league in rebounding at the guard position.

I see Fields being more skilled than Battier. The guy has some moves but just hasn't shown then yet. His mid range game is pretty rock solid.

Easy there cowboy. Better than Battier? Let's let him show that for one season first.

People are starting to drop off of him to double Amar'e. He's better get that outside down quick so he can keep them honest.

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12/10/2010  12:25 PM
AnubisADL wrote:The draft is based on potential and the players current body of work.

Fields is not depended on too carry the team. Other draft picks are expected to carry a significant load.

Fields job is to crash the boards and sometimes contribute points.

Guys like Johnson, Cousins, Monroe, Aminu, George, Hayward, Aldrich, and Henry aren't chopped liver.

I recall the Mozgov is a lottery pick thread.

You want attention-Mosgove is a lottery pick based upon potential. Field is a lottery picked based upon performance.
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12/10/2010  12:34 PM
AnubisADL wrote:The draft is based on potential and the players current body of work.

Fields is not depended on too carry the team. Other draft picks are expected to carry a significant load.

Fields job is to crash the boards and sometimes contribute points.

Guys like Johnson, Cousins, Monroe, Aminu, George, Hayward, Aldrich, and Henry aren't chopped liver.

I recall the Mozgov is a lottery pick thread.

wasnt Fields the leading scorer and rebounder on his team?

If he refines his scoring a bit, maybe gets some post ups against smaller 2's and becomes a 14-15ppg scorer thats a bigtime player. You get 14ppg 8rpg and 50% shooting from your SG and good defense? Hard to ask more of a pick thats not top 5.

doesnt really mattter though... Briggs makes a good point. Draft order is more about ranking than actual value. Its always hit or miss. I remember one year Jerry West traded down for depth, I think he took Troy Bell and Dahntay Jones and both sucked.

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12/10/2010  12:35 PM
TheSage wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:The draft is based on potential and the players current body of work.

Fields is not depended on too carry the team. Other draft picks are expected to carry a significant load.

Fields job is to crash the boards and sometimes contribute points.

Guys like Johnson, Cousins, Monroe, Aminu, George, Hayward, Aldrich, and Henry aren't chopped liver.

I recall the Mozgov is a lottery pick thread.

You want attention-Mosgove is a lottery pick based upon potential. Field is a lottery picked based upon performance.

I guess we got a team full of lottery picks no matter how we acquire them.

Fields rebounding stats are inflated because we have suspect rebounders in our front court. The guy is good but saying saying he is 8th pick worthy after his 20 game stretch is a reach.

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