orangeblobman wrote:No they don't need to focus on CP or Superman, they beez wack. The Knicks are very near elite right now. With a few more key pieces like a dope fresh backup 1 and continued development from Gallo, Fields, then that's it, man. Forget Melo too. I ain't beat for all the star hype.

I think with ZERO doubt, that Bogut/Amare/Gallo (all 6'10 plus) would be THE best frontcourt in the NBA and would win titles. You keep Felton and his tough guy play, move Williams to SG (who at 6'9 is a matchup nightmare) and your bench is Turiaf, Salmons, Bill Walker and whoever else earn minutes.

To me a Bogut/Amare/Gallo frontcourt makes the Knicks the best team in the league, or a top 3-4 for sure. You just spending the next couple of years tinkering the bench and finding shooters.

I think its a pipedream but hey. Bogut is a game changer on defense. Melo isnt.

Thus, the fine line of when to change.

The MDA system does enhance some type players. Dwight as a rebounding shot block monster running monster would fuel the offense and make us incredible. Even with Felton.

Lots of options and ways to go with our cap space and tradable assets. Keep digging new talent like Moz, Sean Williams and Lando is a very optomistic occurance.

Im just enjoying the games not really focusing on what is missing. We need size and a back up PG. AR is no PG!!!!

fishmike wrote:talk to me 25 games from now. What if Gallo/Chandler/Felton continue playing really well and we beat alot of these elite teams we have in the next 25 games? What if we go 17-8 during those 25 games against the best in the NBA? What if we are really that good? Maybe the best thing is keeping what we got because that can keep getting better right?

But I'm talking about opportunity to acquire arguably the best PG or Center in the league. If you could go after and land one or the other to improve the Knicks, who would it be?

grillco wrote:I know it's a crazy notion, but they both have the player option for 2012/13 so they are both potentially available or open to suggestion. I'm practically drooling at the thought of Melo, Amare, and Dwight moreso than CP, Melo and Amare. Felton is no CP, but he wouldn't have to be with that front line. Just to give Felton his due, his kicking butt at the moment and may continue to play at a level that replacing seems less necessary, especially if it means being to focus on a center.

if we sign Melo & have Amare on the roster, there's no room under the cap to sign CP3 or Dwight Howard in 2013 unless u jettison every other player we have on the roster (unless they drastically increase the cap limit in the next CBA, which i don't see happening)... it would pretty much be the Miami Heat situation cap wise... you definitely couldn't have Felton on the roster at that point.

what are the chances that NOH & ORL won't retain their franchise players in 2 years time? that's anyone's guess... if u like to gamble & wait on those guys while taking urself out of the running for finals contention in the present by holding onto your cap flexibility, that's your prerogative... IMO this franchise has been in a holding pattern way too long... it's time to make moves now, not wait another 2-3 years for something that might not even happen... we have Amare in his prime, we HAVE to surround him with top talent so we can make a real run at a title... in 2013 we could easily be having the same argument over whether to make a move for CP3 or wait another 2 years for John Wall or Blake Griffin to become a FA when CP3 or Amare would be on the decline, & on & on & on... it's a never ending debate.

Nalod wrote:We also have internal growth upside with our yoots. I doubt we have hit the ceiling quite yet.

Thus, the fine line of when to change.

The MDA system does enhance some type players. Dwight as a rebounding shot block monster running monster would fuel the offense and make us incredible. Even with Felton.

Lots of options and ways to go with our cap space and tradable assets. Keep digging new talent like Moz, Sean Williams and Lando is a very optomistic occurance.

Im just enjoying the games not really focusing on what is missing. We need size and a back up PG. AR is no PG!!!!

TMS wrote:

grillco wrote:I know it's a crazy notion, but they both have the player option for 2012/13 so they are both potentially available or open to suggestion. I'm practically drooling at the thought of Melo, Amare, and Dwight moreso than CP, Melo and Amare. Felton is no CP, but he wouldn't have to be with that front line. Just to give Felton his due, his kicking butt at the moment and may continue to play at a level that replacing seems less necessary, especially if it means being to focus on a center.

if we sign Melo & have Amare on the roster, there's no room under the cap to sign CP3 or Dwight Howard in 2013 unless u jettison every other player we have on the roster (unless they drastically increase the cap limit in the next CBA, which i don't see happening)... it would pretty much be the Miami Heat situation cap wise... you definitely couldn't have Felton on the roster at that point.

what are the chances that NOH & ORL won't retain their franchise players in 2 years time? that's anyone's guess... if u like to gamble & wait on those guys while taking urself out of the running for finals contention in the present by holding onto your cap flexibility, that's your prerogative... IMO this franchise has been in a holding pattern way too long... it's time to make moves now, not wait another 2-3 years for something that might not even happen... we have Amare in his prime, we HAVE to surround him with top talent so we can make a real run at a title... in 2013 we could easily be having the same argument over whether to make a move for CP3 or wait another 2 years for John Wall or Blake Griffin to become a FA when CP3 or Amare would be on the decline, & on & on & on... it's a never ending debate.

Okay, but again, what if there was room to aquire either guy, who do you pick?

TMS wrote:

grillco wrote:

TMS wrote:

grillco wrote:I know it's a crazy notion, but they both have the player option for 2012/13 so they are both potentially available or open to suggestion. I'm practically drooling at the thought of Melo, Amare, and Dwight moreso than CP, Melo and Amare. Felton is no CP, but he wouldn't have to be with that front line. Just to give Felton his due, his kicking butt at the moment and may continue to play at a level that replacing seems less necessary, especially if it means being to focus on a center.

if we sign Melo & have Amare on the roster, there's no room under the cap to sign CP3 or Dwight Howard in 2013 unless u jettison every other player we have on the roster (unless they drastically increase the cap limit in the next CBA, which i don't see happening)... it would pretty much be the Miami Heat situation cap wise... you definitely couldn't have Felton on the roster at that point.

what are the chances that NOH & ORL won't retain their franchise players in 2 years time? that's anyone's guess... if u like to gamble & wait on those guys while taking urself out of the running for finals contention in the present by holding onto your cap flexibility, that's your prerogative... IMO this franchise has been in a holding pattern way too long... it's time to make moves now, not wait another 2-3 years for something that might not even happen... we have Amare in his prime, we HAVE to surround him with top talent so we can make a real run at a title... in 2013 we could easily be having the same argument over whether to make a move for CP3 or wait another 2 years for John Wall or Blake Griffin to become a FA when CP3 or Amare would be on the decline, & on & on & on... it's a never ending debate.

Okay, but again, what if there was room to aquire either guy, who do you pick?

if u already have Melo, Felton & Amare on the team then i absolutely go for Dwight Howard... but that's just a fantasy scenario that could never happen unless the cap rules change dramatically.

If our coach is still , then you go CP3. No question, no doubt about it.

cheers wrote:superman clogs the lois lane. amar'e needs that room to work.

dont get anyone that makes amar'e or felton feel out of place. frankly that includes cp3, go ahead shoot meh.

for a defensive stud like Dwight i make the exception... Felton is doing the job at PG... Felton, Fields, Melo, Amare & Dwight? who's got a better starting 5 than that in the NBA? but again, it would never happen... it CAN never happen.