That said, I'm not giving the Knicks a championship without further additions and upgrades. Nor am I dismissing the notion that the Nets may develop into a great team with their current core spearheading that development. Right now, however they are still in the basement (last in the East, third from last in the league) and the idea that people were stating them as being better than the Knicks even AFTER they got Amare was and remains quite amusing. If the NYC area is really Melo's preferred destination, it has to be clear to everyone right now where he'd end up if he goes to free agency. Any trade with NJ makes them worse in effort to improve with Melo. The Knicks coudl trade a few guys and still improve with Melo. Adding Melo to either team from the FA market, and it's clear right now the Knicks would give the better chance to win in the next couple of years.

And why does Lopez get a pass for HIS piss poor rebounding. They have a their very own Mebury point guard and a bunch of chuckers.

Jersey meet Karma, Karma meet Jersey

What they deserve for thinking they were hot shyt and their over the top arrogance.

The Nets, they suck. They have bad leadership in Avery and King, they have a bum center in Lopez, he is a fool, and D. Harris is a bum, too. Favors sucks. It's a terrible franchise. And Newark is the worst city in the world. It's dirty, it's falling apart, the people suck.

The Nets, I don't know, Charles Barkley is back on the sauce I think because if he predicted the Nets for the playoffs, he had to be drunk. Wow.

orangeblobman wrote:Your titles are very long.

The Nets, they suck. They have bad leadership in Avery and King, they have a bum center in Lopez, he is a fool, and D. Harris is a bum, too. Favors sucks. It's a terrible franchise. And Newark is the worst city in the world. It's dirty, it's falling apart, the people suck.

The Nets, I don't know, Charles Barkley is back on the sauce I think because if he predicted the Nets for the playoffs, he had to be drunk. Wow.

wow, you pretty much said the exact same things as I did with different words The only difference was I didn't go in on Avery the micro-manager and Billy overpay King

DurzoBlint wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:Your titles are very long.

The Nets, they suck. They have bad leadership in Avery and King, they have a bum center in Lopez, he is a fool, and D. Harris is a bum, too. Favors sucks. It's a terrible franchise. And Newark is the worst city in the world. It's dirty, it's falling apart, the people suck.

The Nets, I don't know, Charles Barkley is back on the sauce I think because if he predicted the Nets for the playoffs, he had to be drunk. Wow.

wow, you pretty much said the exact same things as I did with different words The only difference was I didn't go in on Avery the micro-manager and Billy overpay King

Turible. Avery, he can get annoying fast. Billy King, a bum in Philly. Did he give Iggy that stupid wack contract?

fishmike wrote:I have said so many times that Brook Lopez is overrated. He's good, and I would love to have him on the Knicks. He's a nice scorer (although his FG% looking more and more like they did in college) and he's so big and long. What he isnt is a guy who can anchor an offense (like Amare does) or a defense (like Hibbert is doing in Indy, or Bogut does in Milw).

Lopez is a young Ilgauskis, and there is NOTHING wrong with that, but BigZ is a nice rotation 2ndary player. He's not a build around player, and the Net's mistake and other's mistake is thinking Lopez is a guy you build around.

Hibbert, Howard, Nene, Duncan, Gasol (both), Horford, Bogut, OK4, Al Jefferson, Kaman, Knoa... I would say there are 12 guys starting at center better than Lopez right now. Maybe not *much* better but for one reason or another better, if only slightly.

He's 22 and can get better, but he's taken a BIG step back this year when everyone thought he would take a huge step forward and anchor a retooled Nets team. OOPS

to continue my Lopez is Sucking thread:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=36985

martin wrote:11/16:

shooting 42% from field, 5.6 rebounds per game on 34 minutes?

For a C?

Updated 12/8:

Dude is only averaging 43% and 6 rebounds per game as a C.

Where is oohah to defend this guy? Or does he only post when Knicks are losing?

Their schedule wasnt that easy either. Im not saying they are a playoff team but I see them better than some teams that are currently sitting ahead of them in the standings.

martin wrote:

fishmike wrote:I have said so many times that Brook Lopez is overrated. He's good, and I would love to have him on the Knicks. He's a nice scorer (although his FG% looking more and more like they did in college) and he's so big and long. What he isnt is a guy who can anchor an offense (like Amare does) or a defense (like Hibbert is doing in Indy, or Bogut does in Milw).

Lopez is a young Ilgauskis, and there is NOTHING wrong with that, but BigZ is a nice rotation 2ndary player. He's not a build around player, and the Net's mistake and other's mistake is thinking Lopez is a guy you build around.

Hibbert, Howard, Nene, Duncan, Gasol (both), Horford, Bogut, OK4, Al Jefferson, Kaman, Knoa... I would say there are 12 guys starting at center better than Lopez right now. Maybe not *much* better but for one reason or another better, if only slightly.

He's 22 and can get better, but he's taken a BIG step back this year when everyone thought he would take a huge step forward and anchor a retooled Nets team. OOPS

to continue my Lopez is Sucking thread:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=36985

martin wrote:11/16:

shooting 42% from field, 5.6 rebounds per game on 34 minutes?

For a C?

Updated 12/8:

Dude is only averaging 43% and 6 rebounds per game as a C.

Where is oohah to defend this guy? Or does he only post when Knicks are losing?

I don't even think the Nets talent is bad! I think they've got some guys that should be able to play better BB than they have. It's a very young team, but they've got some talent. Eventually they'll get it together, but I just don't wanna hear how amazing Avery is and how he's such a better coach than Mike.

THIS guy...