Panos wrote:Speaking of Chandler, if we don't get Melo, how much are we going to have to pay Chandler to keep him next year?

fishmike wrote:

Panos wrote:Speaking of Chandler, if we don't get Melo, how much are we going to have to pay Chandler to keep him next year?

6 years $48mm. That contract starts at $7mm and gives the standard 10.5% raises. I think thats pretty good. Worst case is he's just a solid high end rotation guy. Best case is he visits a couple all star games. Either way Chandler gets better every year, plays hurt, great attitude, works hard, good pro, good guy... the kind of player I want around for a long time. He may want more, but thats a nice piece of change. Less than Maggette/Odom but more than Ariza and Artest. On average its $1mm a year more than what Mil gave Salmons. I think thats fair market

Do you think that's enough to get the deal done?

fishmike wrote:

Panos wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Panos wrote:Speaking of Chandler, if we don't get Melo, how much are we going to have to pay Chandler to keep him next year?

6 years $48mm. That contract starts at $7mm and gives the standard 10.5% raises. I think thats pretty good. Worst case is he's just a solid high end rotation guy. Best case is he visits a couple all star games. Either way Chandler gets better every year, plays hurt, great attitude, works hard, good pro, good guy... the kind of player I want around for a long time. He may want more, but thats a nice piece of change. Less than Maggette/Odom but more than Ariza and Artest. On average its $1mm a year more than what Mil gave Salmons. I think thats fair market

Do you think that's enough to get the deal done?

I would hope so. I think its more than fair. Thats a lot of cheese. If we started him at $7.5mm that would mean (under current CBA) that his contract would be 6 years $51mm (average of $9.7mm). To match another team would have to offer him 5 years $51mm which starts at $10.5mm and averages $12mm.

dont be suprised if the new CBA has even MORE salary incentives for the current teams which would only help us manage keeping this good young core of talent together

See, I just don't believe that. Yes, for guaranteed money, but he could average $11mm per year for 5 years, and still resign later for that 6th year, and make several million more in the end.

Panos wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Panos wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Panos wrote:Speaking of Chandler, if we don't get Melo, how much are we going to have to pay Chandler to keep him next year?

6 years $48mm. That contract starts at $7mm and gives the standard 10.5% raises. I think thats pretty good. Worst case is he's just a solid high end rotation guy. Best case is he visits a couple all star games. Either way Chandler gets better every year, plays hurt, great attitude, works hard, good pro, good guy... the kind of player I want around for a long time. He may want more, but thats a nice piece of change. Less than Maggette/Odom but more than Ariza and Artest. On average its $1mm a year more than what Mil gave Salmons. I think thats fair market

Do you think that's enough to get the deal done?

I would hope so. I think its more than fair. Thats a lot of cheese. If we started him at $7.5mm that would mean (under current CBA) that his contract would be 6 years $51mm (average of $9.7mm). To match another team would have to offer him 5 years $51mm which starts at $10.5mm and averages $12mm.

dont be suprised if the new CBA has even MORE salary incentives for the current teams which would only help us manage keeping this good young core of talent together

See, I just don't believe that. Yes, for guaranteed money, but he could average $11mm per year for 5 years, and still resign later for that 6th year, and make several million more in the end.

Panos wrote:That's what we said about Lee. I hope you're right. Cuz I'm with you and Briggs, in that I'd rather keep him and and the supplimental pieces, than put all my eggs in the Melo basket.

ha i was just going to post that. hey no matter how much you like a place, $80 million can make you fall in love.

knicks1248 wrote:chandler is not one of the top 5 fwds in the east

exactly... he's playing great but let's wait on drowing ourselves in the Kool-Aid just yet... Fields is 1 of the favorites for ROY, Wilson is 1 of the favorites for 6th man of the year (unless he keeps his starting job for the rest of the season)... i'm happy w/that.

besides, the NBA's joke of an Allstar game is a popularity contest for the most part these days anyway... even if Wilson out performs another bigname guy, he's not likely going to get the nod unless the disparity is significant in their #'s... David Lee had to put up 20 / 12 / 4 last year to barely even sneak in... given our team is playing a lot better now but u can't figure Wilson would get selected over guys like Lebron, Amare, Granger, Pierce & Bosh unless he started to put up monster #'s for a long stretch leading up to the AS game.

TMS wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:yeah, but if your on a losing team TMS then you need to put up sick numbers like Lee did for consideration. Losing teams don't really deserve allstar consideration because of the Shariyf Adbul Rahim effect. Looks awesome on a bad team but, put him on a good one and he becomes average to below average.

Lebron, Amare, Granger, Pierce & Bosh are all playing on winning teams & putting up better stats than Wilson this year... plus they all have that name recognition that Wilson doesn't really have at this point... like i said, it's going to take Wilson beasting in the weeks leading up to Allstar break for him to get in this year over any of those guys IMHO.

umm, I was actually agreeing with you and saying those sick stats are why Lee made it on a losing team. No way he makes it with his stats