BRIGGS wrote:and Mosgiv never started--wed be 17-5 on the way to 57 wins. But were still on the way to 50 and hopefully more

Its easy to see that now, but we really didn't have a big to cover STAT's back and Timo was looking good enough early on. Turiaf then started to come on but it made sense to preserve him. It's always easy to get it right after the fact. besides we had other issues back then, like Gallo slumping, Felton not fully working the PnR, Amar'e pressing and committing charges.

VDesai wrote:In the long run they will gain from Mozgov taking his lumps. If only the guy learned to grab the ball and finish ferociously like Amare....well no one really finishes like that in the NBA, but hey, if he could just learn a little bit!

I think we are good in a lot of ways. I think we need a post defender though. We have no answers for Kevin Love or players like him.

all I want Timo to do in the offseason is work out with Amare and absorb some of the ferocity.

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

VDesai wrote:In the long run they will gain from Mozgov taking his lumps. If only the guy learned to grab the ball and finish ferociously like Amare....well no one really finishes like that in the NBA, but hey, if he could just learn a little bit!

I think we are good in a lot of ways. I think we need a post defender though. We have no answers for Kevin Love or players like him.

No team has an answer for that type of player. Too big and too skilled. The only scary part of the game was when darko was in there--then you saw what a skill 7 footer ALONG with a skill 6-10 260 PF and a big SF could do--they could muscle us.

Yet they're still a pretty ****ty team. The Knicks did not look good tonight.

This is exactly the kind of game you win when you're becoming a good team. Come out flat, go down a quick 10, other team's playing all-world on you but can't shake you, then when you're done f'g around BAM block their shots, steal the ball out of their hands, pick off their passes and go home with a nice win.

We are looking good and it's a process, no way we could have decided on the roster earlier and said what it shouldn't or should have been. It's a process. Come on guys for those big games and keep not forgetting the small ones

SupremeCommander wrote:sorry no... no way. Amar'e and Felton only recently had this chemistry. Felton was still grasping his role. AR was playing a different role. Gallo started the year terribly. TD only played a handful of good games. The team was learning how to play together.

I know you want to justify your win prediction, but come on. You were the one saying how Turiaf had no business starting and how he should be cut. To blame the win total on Mosgov implies that you would've supported Turiaf starting and that just is not the case.

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VDesai wrote:Knicks need to finish this week with 2 more wins and get to 15-9. The week after is a true test- Denver, Boston and Miami. I'd be happy to win at least 1 of those 3- if we can ride this streak and take 2 of those games we definitely are on our way to a great year IMO.

Never look ahead my friend the game in front of you is the most important game.

i fully agree. Knicks definitely need to win the next 2 games. Test is meaningless if they don't get in there 15-9. They need to establish themsleves as a team that beats the teams below them and then can compete with the teams ahead of them. This latest stretch has begun to show that they can do the former.

VDesai wrote:BTW, for what its worth, Briggs has a point. Check out how much better the Felton-Fields-Gallo-Chandler-Amare lineup has been vs. our others:

http://www.82games.com/1011/1011NYK2.HTM

We also do pretty well when we can get Turiaf in there

I don't disagree that the small lineup has been effective. But the competition that we have faced hasn't been all that good. And the one time Knicks faced a small lineup with skill Hawks the Knicks lost. The bigs on the opposing teams have been going off on the KNicks. Last night if Darko doesn't go down it looks like they are getting 20 points from the center position. Love had 33 and Beasley had 25. Put it this way Big teams are going to have their way with the Knicks. Griffin goes off on the Knicks for 44. Love drops 30+ twice on the Knicks. Amir Johnson has a career night for Raptors. David Lee also went off on the Knicks. Small lineup is working but how long will it work, especially if the KNicks face big teams like Celtics, Lakers, Miami, Bulls with Noah and Boozer. KNicks have to get a skilled big man. right now I'm all for trading for Jason Thompson. He is a good solid player that might give the Knicks good minutes rebounds well and has offensive capability. I might even see the availability of JaVale McGee. But I do think that Randolph has to get some minutes. MDA is basically running him out of town much like Darko but Darko deserved to be run out his attitude was piss poor in NY. I don't sense that with AR. The Knicks need to get something better going with their Center position. I don't much like Amare playing that position, even tough he is putting up monster numbers he is giving up monster numbers too.