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MDA and Felton... whats the upside?
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fishmike
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12/6/2010  2:38 PM
I dont remember Nash very well w/ Dallas. The last year he was on the Mavs that team was LOADED. They had Dirk, Jamison, Finley, 4 poiunt Walker, Marquis Daniels, lots of big bodies, but they got smoked by the Kings in round one.

Next year Dallas dumps Nash thinking they have peaked there, he goes to Pho and immediatly becomes a top 5 NBA player and 2 time MVP. On paper Dallas probably had more talent, although watching Amare every game we see he's pretty phuckin good

I have to say the first 10 games or so is what I expected from Felton. Really good defense, tough player, great at pushing the ball but poor in the half court, set plays and running the P&R.

During the win streak has anyone played better than Felton? Obviously Amare is beasting nightly, but Felton has been impossible to deal with. He's not only playing better, he seems to be getting better.

Am I just drinking the kool aid or is this guy starting to blossom into a top PG before our eyes?

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12/6/2010  2:42 PM
Need a bigger sample to be sure, but how can you argue with the results so far. He has been awesome since the 3-8 start. Of course Paul and Williams and some others are better, but the way he has been playing he is right in the conversation. Can he blossom? Look at his first 4 years. 40% shooting and then a jump to 45%. This year 47% last I checked. This appears to be a result of hard work. I'm thinking this level of play is here to stay, but as a Knick fan I'm supposed to be pessimistic by law, so I will say no.
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12/6/2010  2:43 PM
It took David Lee 5 years to reach all-star status. Why not Felton?
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12/6/2010  2:43 PM
He's been too "relaxed" in his passing at times, and this has not been a good thing (tips and turnovers), but he also seems a lot more relaxed when he is shooting, and his shot has been a revelation.
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12/6/2010  2:59 PM
Did i read correctly that MDA was happy with the way Shawne was running the offense? 6'9" rookie point guard hitting 3's?

Wonder if anyone's seen him pushing Felton in practice?

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12/6/2010  3:01 PM
Some guys take a little longer than others. Chauncey Billups comes to mind too. Felton has ALWAYS been able to play the game at an incredible pace... he needed to learn to play when the game slows down. I know Larry Brown doesn'tg et a tone of love around here, but Felton definitely expanded his game under Brown.
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12/6/2010  3:03 PM
I still find myself muttering, "no" as Felton rises for 20 footers off the dribble with the defense in his face -- and then "nice shot". So, I guess I'm not a believer yet, just an admirer. I think he's good, maybe even very good, but not as good as he's looked during this hot streak. Borderline all-star talent. A great signing in any event.

Could say the same for Amar'e ratcheting up the adjectives a notch. I thing he's very good, maybe even great, but not a league MVP talent as he's looked during his hot streak.

Or for the team as a whole. I think they're good, maybe even very good, but not an elite team as they've appeared winning 9 of 10 and however many straight on the road.

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12/6/2010  3:09 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:Some guys take a little longer than others. Chauncey Billups comes to mind too. Felton has ALWAYS been able to play the game at an incredible pace... he needed to learn to play when the game slows down. I know Larry Brown doesn'tg et a tone of love around here, but Felton definitely expanded his game under Brown.
PGs and post players usually take the longest.

I was a big Larry Brown and I agree, his time there helped, especially defensively.

I hope we can keep cleaning the floor with these bottom feeder teams and keep improving on what we do well when the tougher part of the schedule comes

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12/6/2010  3:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/6/2010  3:11 PM
Frankly, if Felton stays right where he is, I'll be thrilled.
To me, he's playing the best PG play we've had in here since Derek Harper.
Better than solid on both sides of the ball, steady, warrior and a leader.
I'll take improvements at other positions: Center - defense and rebounding to allow STAT to stay at PF,
and some more solid shooting from the rest of the line up.
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12/6/2010  3:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/6/2010  4:35 PM
felton wouldn't be
the first late bloomer at point
chauncey. steve. raymond?
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Panos
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12/6/2010  3:12 PM
I think Chauncey is a great comparison for Felton.
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12/6/2010  3:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/6/2010  3:15 PM
I didn't think he'd be this good of a scorer. He's hitting jumpers from anywhere on the court, getting into the paint with relative ease, hitting tough floaters with either hand (and rarely ever gets blocked despite his size). He's also been very clutch, always coming up with big buckets.

His passing, though, leaves a lot to be desired. I think he has pretty good court vision, but he's just not that good of a passer. You won't see him make flashy passes or thread the needle, for example. Even when he goes for basic kickouts or passes to Amare in the PnR, his passes are usually too low or not exactly on target, and the other player has to "reach" a bit to gather it. I think this is really the only thing that will always hold him back from getting on Nash's level or CP3's level.

Otherwise, he's playing very well for us, and unlike Nash, is a hound on defense. Sure, Felton gets burnt at times by quicker guards, but really, what PG in this league is capable of keeping the quicker point guards like John Wall or Tony Parker in front of them?

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12/6/2010  3:17 PM
Felton can't reset a play the way Nash can without missing a beat. I agree with Panos that BBBBillups is who we should hope Felton plays like in the playoffs. Level headed but dangerous.
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12/6/2010  3:33 PM
All it takes is for a PG to mind meld with Mike and if they've got talent they're going to be successful. He finds a way for PG's to be in the perfect situation. Look at the way the offense is stuctured. He creates MAX spacing on the floor and uses picks and screens. You name me the good PG's in this league that won't be successful in every aspect of their game with lots of room to move and the green light to shoot or drive? It's PERFECT and the better the PG is the more they'll excel. CP3 would be legendary in this system!!! So what i've learned is that Felton is a GOOD PG and thus he's able to take full advantage of the options this offense gives him. If Duhon was good, he could've also sustained a high level of play. The demands were too much for him Physically and mentally. It's a grind to be in that position for 38 mpg 82 games a season. It was too much for Duhon, but I believe that Felton has shown he can take that level of responsibility for 82 games.

IMO the only thing that Felton needed was to master the PnR. Now that he's gotten much better at it, the tools he has are complete and we just need to keep good shooters on the floor and keep moving and passing. It's no coincidence that the offense is doing what it is. Even when we had bad teams the last 2 years we still had a pretty potent offense. It just wasn't as efficient. If we can get a good backup that will save Felton for the playoffs so he can be strong.

MDA and Felton... whats the upside?

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