s3231 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

s3231 wrote:If Amare beasts again tonight, I plan on starting 5 MVP chants at the Garden....true story

It's going to be legen....wait for it.....dary

Ha, glad to see someone picked up on it

Funniest character on tv

Panos wrote:At the beginning of the year, MDA was on ESPN radio, I don't remember who was the host, and Mike said that STAT was a top 10 player, and the ESPN guys disputed it and tried to list 10 players better (which they didn't end up doing).
It seems that so far this year STAT is FIRMLY placed himself in that top ten, and I'd say he's top 3 big men.
In no particular order, the top three big men in the league are Dirk, DHoward, and STAT.
STAT gives you a more physical presence than Dirk (but less range), and more range and diverse offense than DHoward, but less defense and rebounding. If I'm starting a team from scratch, I'm picking STAT or DHoward as my star front court player. End of story.

I'll take Pau Gasol over Stoudemire and Howard as well. After that, I can't think of a big man I'd like better AT THIS POINT.

Panos wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

Panos wrote:At the beginning of the year, MDA was on ESPN radio, I don't remember who was the host, and Mike said that STAT was a top 10 player, and the ESPN guys disputed it and tried to list 10 players better (which they didn't end up doing).
It seems that so far this year STAT is FIRMLY placed himself in that top ten, and I'd say he's top 3 big men.
In no particular order, the top three big men in the league are Dirk, DHoward, and STAT.
STAT gives you a more physical presence than Dirk (but less range), and more range and diverse offense than DHoward, but less defense and rebounding. If I'm starting a team from scratch, I'm picking STAT or DHoward as my star front court player. End of story.

I'll take Pau Gasol over Stoudemire and Howard as well. After that, I can't think of a big man I'd like better AT THIS POINT.

Not me, man. As I've stated before, I think Pau Gasol is overrated. That guy was on a lottery team until he got traded to LA-LA. They had 22 wins.
Even from a pure statistics perspective STAT has the edge, but its so much more than that. Pau Gasol is feasting playing second fiddle to the best player in the league, Kobe. Amare is LEADING his team, and turned a lottery team into a winner (yes, so far). That plus I feel that so much of Pau's scoring comes from his flopping around and getting foul calls, I can't respect that. Every time he touches the ball he just spins around till someone touches him and he flops. I'm not impressed.

I just don't see the same thing out of him. You can argue that Amar'e is better and that's fine. If you take the comparison out of this though, Gasol is still such a smooth player and even without flopping he can score whenever he wants and he does and he plays intelligent as hell. He always knows when to make the right move or pass, and that's with or without Kobe. Just remember, before the Lakers had Pau, they were a first round and exit team. They got their arses beat by the Suns twice and had a lotto appearance. After Pau, they made it to the finals 3 times. That says a lot.

You may not like his flopping, but if you were his coach or a Lakers fan, you would love every minute of how he plays. And he comes up with big defensive players as well.

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

Panos wrote:At the beginning of the year, MDA was on ESPN radio, I don't remember who was the host, and Mike said that STAT was a top 10 player, and the ESPN guys disputed it and tried to list 10 players better (which they didn't end up doing).
It seems that so far this year STAT is FIRMLY placed himself in that top ten, and I'd say he's top 3 big men.
In no particular order, the top three big men in the league are Dirk, DHoward, and STAT.
STAT gives you a more physical presence than Dirk (but less range), and more range and diverse offense than DHoward, but less defense and rebounding. If I'm starting a team from scratch, I'm picking STAT or DHoward as my star front court player. End of story.

I'll take Pau Gasol over Stoudemire and Howard as well. After that, I can't think of a big man I'd like better AT THIS POINT.

Not me, man. As I've stated before, I think Pau Gasol is overrated. That guy was on a lottery team until he got traded to LA-LA. They had 22 wins.
Even from a pure statistics perspective STAT has the edge, but its so much more than that. Pau Gasol is feasting playing second fiddle to the best player in the league, Kobe. Amare is LEADING his team, and turned a lottery team into a winner (yes, so far). That plus I feel that so much of Pau's scoring comes from his flopping around and getting foul calls, I can't respect that. Every time he touches the ball he just spins around till someone touches him and he flops. I'm not impressed.

P Gasol is not an alpha dog but a damn good player. I think some of his Memphis teams won 45-50 games in a tough western conference.

Maybe its just me. I don't like his style of ball. I don't want him leading my team, and as a fan, I wouldn't want to watch him.

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

Panos wrote:At the beginning of the year, MDA was on ESPN radio, I don't remember who was the host, and Mike said that STAT was a top 10 player, and the ESPN guys disputed it and tried to list 10 players better (which they didn't end up doing).
It seems that so far this year STAT is FIRMLY placed himself in that top ten, and I'd say he's top 3 big men.
In no particular order, the top three big men in the league are Dirk, DHoward, and STAT.
STAT gives you a more physical presence than Dirk (but less range), and more range and diverse offense than DHoward, but less defense and rebounding. If I'm starting a team from scratch, I'm picking STAT or DHoward as my star front court player. End of story.

I'll take Pau Gasol over Stoudemire and Howard as well. After that, I can't think of a big man I'd like better AT THIS POINT.

Not me, man. As I've stated before, I think Pau Gasol is overrated. That guy was on a lottery team until he got traded to LA-LA. They had 22 wins.
Even from a pure statistics perspective STAT has the edge, but its so much more than that. Pau Gasol is feasting playing second fiddle to the best player in the league, Kobe. Amare is LEADING his team, and turned a lottery team into a winner (yes, so far). That plus I feel that so much of Pau's scoring comes from his flopping around and getting foul calls, I can't respect that. Every time he touches the ball he just spins around till someone touches him and he flops. I'm not impressed.

P Gasol is not an alpha dog but a damn good player. I think some of his Memphis teams won 45-50 games in a tough western conference.

Maybe its just me. I don't like his style of ball. I don't want him leading my team, and as a fan, I wouldn't want to watch him.

he's the perfect Pippen for Kobe.

Why? Would the Lakers be any worse with STAT instead of PGasol?

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

Panos wrote:At the beginning of the year, MDA was on ESPN radio, I don't remember who was the host, and Mike said that STAT was a top 10 player, and the ESPN guys disputed it and tried to list 10 players better (which they didn't end up doing).
It seems that so far this year STAT is FIRMLY placed himself in that top ten, and I'd say he's top 3 big men.
In no particular order, the top three big men in the league are Dirk, DHoward, and STAT.
STAT gives you a more physical presence than Dirk (but less range), and more range and diverse offense than DHoward, but less defense and rebounding. If I'm starting a team from scratch, I'm picking STAT or DHoward as my star front court player. End of story.

I'll take Pau Gasol over Stoudemire and Howard as well. After that, I can't think of a big man I'd like better AT THIS POINT.

Not me, man. As I've stated before, I think Pau Gasol is overrated. That guy was on a lottery team until he got traded to LA-LA. They had 22 wins.
Even from a pure statistics perspective STAT has the edge, but its so much more than that. Pau Gasol is feasting playing second fiddle to the best player in the league, Kobe. Amare is LEADING his team, and turned a lottery team into a winner (yes, so far). That plus I feel that so much of Pau's scoring comes from his flopping around and getting foul calls, I can't respect that. Every time he touches the ball he just spins around till someone touches him and he flops. I'm not impressed.

P Gasol is not an alpha dog but a damn good player. I think some of his Memphis teams won 45-50 games in a tough western conference.

Sure did, but lets get it right, if you had to pick em at this juncture of the season, Amare is holding down right now..today..this minute, there's no other player hotter. Dirk and gasol aren't swattting shots, and having game winning blocks.

Panos wrote:If I'm starting a team from scratch, I'm picking STAT or DHoward as my star front court player. End of story.

agreed 10000000%... STAT is the MVP this year right now without a doubt... name me 1 player that has had more of a positive impact on his team this year... right now Amare & DHoward are the most dominant bigmen in the game w/o question... both of them are putting up their numbers without the benefit of having a dominant perimeter guy like Kobe preventing teams from doubling him on every other possession.

TMS wrote:

Panos wrote:If I'm starting a team from scratch, I'm picking STAT or DHoward as my star front court player. End of story.

agreed 10000000%... STAT is the MVP this year right now without a doubt... name me 1 player that has had more of a positive impact on his team this year... right now Amare & DHoward are the most dominant bigmen in the game w/o question... both of them are putting up their numbers without the benefit of having a dominant perimeter guy like Kobe preventing teams from doubling him on every other possession.

I see orlando and the knicks in a 2nd round match up, and felton going at nelson with a vegence and amare and DH going mano y mano...I said it first