AnubisADL wrote:We scored 100+ against the Kings, Warriors, and Clippers. Those are 3 GUARANTEED lottery teams.

Gallo was not playing at the level he was prior
We blew what shouldve been a 5-1 start hurting our psyche.
Turriaf went down for 3 games and it hurt.
We showed great signs in that Denver game and something snapped in down 15 to Sacremento

We do have two holes imho. But I think we are two players away from championship level.

BRIGGS wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:We scored 100+ against the Kings, Warriors, and Clippers. Those are 3 GUARANTEED lottery teams.

Gallo was not playing at the level he was prior
We blew what shouldve been a 5-1 start hurting our psyche.
Turriaf went down for 3 games and it hurt.
We showed great signs in that Denver game and something snapped in down 15 to Sacremento

We do have two holes imho. But I think we are two players away from championship level.

We are young enough to maybe even already have those player....

Azabuki will help b4 its all said and done as will AR

Fields will only get better...... TD could pick it up as well!

Moz will be better

AnubisADL wrote:

umynot wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:We scored 100+ against the Kings, Warriors, and Clippers. Those are 3 GUARANTEED lottery teams.

Golden State has been playing good ball ..... Was their first loss at home.

3 in row on road is huge for us!!

Golden State got a hot start. A back court of Ellis and Curry is going NOWHERE.

Im glad we won but I want some wins against solid teams. Hopefully we smack the Bobcats the next 2 games.

Back court of Ellis Curry aint going nowhere?..... You watch the games man?

They scored 69 points and had 17 assists combined......

They are scary good together

BRIGGS wrote:Now hear me out:)

I thought that we'd get this type of production for Gallo(similar to late last year with a touch of upside to it) and Randolph would be giving me what fields has been with a tad more. Having fields actually give me some nice goods has blunted the Randolph failure to this point.

Here is my question to Knick fans--I am either a proponent of winning it all any time you have a chance or all out rebuilding---I don't think about the middle ground becasue its defeatist.

With a franchise post player who is now up to an MVP type level a legit 20+ scorer on the wing a great 6th man in Chandler a top 10 PG a couple of nice role players---to me--I would take anything that is not playing or in that core of players and swap it out FOR THE RIGHT two pieces of so EVEN if that meant no free agency next year. I dont need Carmelo unless I strike out for the RIGHT trade or if we do smaller deals that are cap friendly Jason Thompson maybe Sonny Weems--those types of players. I mean if I could pull off a Pau Gasol type trade where Im giving up two picks and prospects--even taking on cap--that wouldnt bother me int he right deal if it gave me the pieces to go for it now. What team is that great in the east? You play to win the games--why cant it be the Knicks this year--we have something here but it does have two big holes--can we fill those holes and win win win--I dont want future free agency to get int he way of winning today.

I think Donnie has done a tremendous job with the resources he has had over the past 2 years, and I think we can all tell that the Knicks have something going on. All the pieces are there and when they click, they win.

I think we all know luck also needs to happen for a GM to be successful. Bad back gone the wrong way for Gallo 2 years ago and Donnie is gone by the end of this year; all star numbers for Gallo the remainder of this year, and the Knicks would potentially be set up for deep playoffs for years to come.

Knicks have a lot of guards and SF's, a little light on PGs and power players beyond Felton and Amare (Turiaf IMHO is a first power player off bench on a deep playoff run team), and they still need a scorer who can get his own off the dribble late in games (is Gallo good enough in this role?).

So, questions remain for Donnie:

1) What does he have in Timo and AR? Will they get it like Gallo seems to? If they do, they are cheap pieces over the next 2 years and Donnie can fill other spots.
2) What kind of closer do we have and do we need to get Melo? Is Gallo good enough? He seems to be a ball mover and at least tries on D.

If you target someone like Marc Gasol in the offseason (RFA, so no doubt tough ploy) and have a big rotation of Gasol, Amare, Turiaf, AR, Timo, MASSIVE FRONT LINE.

If you target Melo and end up with an offensive rotation of Melo, Amare, Gallo, TOUGH offensive team to guard.

It'll be interesting December through July for Donnie Walnuts.

AnubisADL wrote:

umynot wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:We scored 100+ against the Kings, Warriors, and Clippers. Those are 3 GUARANTEED lottery teams.

Golden State has been playing good ball ..... Was their first loss at home.

3 in row on road is huge for us!!

Golden State got a hot start. A back court of Ellis and Curry is going NOWHERE.

Im glad we won but I want some wins against solid teams. Hopefully we smack the Bobcats the next 2 games.

exactly, no david lee as well...im hoping for the next 2 games..feltons playing well and should be pump

fishmike wrote:

VDesai wrote:I think the rational fans (which is tough to be) realized we were better than 3-8. Still not sure how much better we are, but we got lucky to hit a soft spot in the schedule. And now you've got Gallo finally getting his confidence back offensively and also Stoudemire and Felton settling in and getting more comfortable. Scoring 120+ in order to win your games is not gonna be a sustainable method of success, but at least we were playing better ball.

some of the high scoring is the pace. Knicks defense looks bad in the box score, but the played a chippy game and forced a ton of turn overs, looked great on the fast break that runs up the score.

The key like you said is to just play better. Gallo is becoming what we hoped and its translating into wins (shoulda won the Denver game and we would be .500 )

I think we can play the fast paced, force turnover games and that should help us get wins against the bottom half. But we'll probably need to get contributions from more than 8 guys and stay relatively healthy. Randolph should fit right in if he can get his head in the game. In fact he can be a key player in this.

Amare no longer seems to feel that he has to do everything on his own. I like the midrange J he has been taking- he's very consistent with it, and it helps his driving game.

Turiaf has been a revelation, but has to stay healthy.

Douglas has to play the way he did earlier in the year.

Fields has to continue to improve and make adjustments as teams adjust to his game.

Chandler has to be consistent- he makes too many rookie mistakes, still. (forgot this)

But the keys for me are Felton and Gallo, who both stepped up their games big time during the road trip. If these two guys emerge and can continue to play some semblance of the ball they have been playing the past few games, this team can win the 45+ games I originally thought they could reach, but have since had doubts about.

I think Hahn wrote (bought Newsday today) that MDA has made some changes in how he uses Felton, indicating that he has adopted some aspects of the Triangle O. If anyone can explain this to me I'd appreciate it. What I'm seeing from Felton is a guy very secure in his jump shooting- the thing we all thought was a weakness. I'm still a bit annoyed at how many of his passes are tipped, but he's been a little better recently, and hopefully he will continue to improve in this aspect as he continues to find his comfort zone in the offense.

If Gallo had played like this earlier in the year we'd have 7 or 8 wins at this point. Whether it was his hand or the trade talk, he is an entirely different player now than the guy we saw at the beginning of the year. He's getting out for the break on transition (even leading it sometimes) like he never has before and finishing. He's driving to the basket with results, and hitting the 3's when he has to. He's also moving without the ball on a more frequent basis and is no longer glued to the floor in the corner waiting for a pass.

I'd like to see better midrange shooting from Gallo, and some moves in the post, but I don't think anyone can be upset with how he has been playing recently.

Hopefully guys continue to step up, and Amare continues his good play, but for me Gallo and Felton are the key players who will ultimately determine how good this team is going to be.

Paladin55 wrote:More fluidity in the offense.

Amare no longer seems to feel that he has to do everything on his own. I like the midrange J he has been taking- he's very consistent with it, and it helps his driving game.

Turiaf has been a revelation, but has to stay healthy.

Douglas has to play the way he did earlier in the year.

Fields has to continue to improve and make adjustments as teams adjust to his game.

Chandler has to be consistent- he makes too many .

But the keys for me are Felton and Gallo, who both stepped up their games big time during the road trip. If these two guys emerge and can continue to play some semblance of the ball they have been playing the past few games, this team can win the 45+ games I originally thought they could reach, but have since had doubts about.

I think Hahn wrote (bought Newsday today) that MDA has made some changes in how he uses Felton, indicating that he has adopted some aspects of the Triangle O. If anyone can explain this to me I'd appreciate it. What I'm seeing from Felton is a guy very secure in his jump shooting- the thing we all thought was a weakness. I'm still a bit annoyed at how many of his passes are tipped, but he's been a little better recently, and hopefully he will continue to improve in this aspect as he continues to find his comfort zone in the offense.

If Gallo had played like this earlier in the year we'd have 7 or 8 wins at this point. Whether it was his hand or the trade talk, he is an entirely different player now than the guy we saw at the beginning of the year. He's getting out for the break on transition (even leading it sometimes) like he never has before and finishing. He's driving to the basket with results, and hitting the 3's when he has to. He's also moving without the ball on a more frequent basis and is no longer glued to the floor in the corner waiting for a pass.

I'd like to see better midrange shooting from Gallo, and some moves in the post, but I don't think anyone can be upset with how he has been playing recently.

Hopefully guys continue to step up, and Amare continues his good play, but for me Gallo and Felton are the key players who will ultimately determine how good this team is going to be.

good post and points altogether.

"I'm still a bit annoyed at how many of his passes are tipped"... was amazed myself at that same thing, never seen a starting PG get his passes deflected as much as Felton.