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why dont the Knicks have a full on D-league team (no sharing)?
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martin
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11/19/2010  6:21 PM
with the financial $$ advantage they have, this should be a nobrainer. Check out the below.


http://www.48minutesofhell.com/austin-toros-media-day-spurs

The Austin Toros should look more like the Spurs than ever

The Austin Toros are thought of by many as the NBA D-League’s flagship program. They are consistently a top team in the D-League standings and enjoy one of the strongest relationships between parent program and affiliate.

And then this summer, they went and improved things some more.

Gone are the Toros from the Austin Convention Center. Now the Toros play in the fancy Cedar Park Center, a 6800 set arena in the Cedar Park suburb of Austin. Away from the gargantuan shadow of the University of Texas and into the neighborhoods the Toros primarily market to.

As a result, the Toros also left the Parque Zaragoza Recreation Center on the east side of Austin, where the team used to practice. Now the Toros use the Cedar Park Recreation Center, a facility closer to the team’s new home.

Quin Snyder is gone too. The former head coach of the Toros joined Doug Collins’ staff with the Philadelphia 76ers. Brad Jones, formerly the head coach of the D-League’s Utah Flash, is the new head coach and he’s excited about the job.

“I felt like this was one of the best organizations in the league, in the D-League,” Coach Jones said at the Toros’ media day on Tuesday. “And since I’ve been here, probably seven weeks now, it’s proven out to be that, plus some.”

Last season, Coach Snyder mentioned after a game that he liked to play at a fast pace in the D-League, because it was easier to get guys to buy into the team concept when everyone knew they were going to put up good numbers.

“I think they averaged like 113 points a game last year,” Coach Jones said. “I don’t know if we’ll average that. We’re definitely going to play an up-tempo pace. But at the same time we’re going to play hopefully where the ball’s moving, guys get a lot of touches and — like I told these guys — so guys can show their talent and what they can do within the framework of our team system.”

This year’s version of the Toros should look and play a lot like the big club in San Antonio. Chatting with assistant coaches Tyler Jenkins and Alex Lloyd, they mentioned that last year they had a much more experimental playbook. Presumably with Coach Snyder in his third season coaching the team, he had a grasp on the San Antonio system.

But with a new head coach, the playbook has been pared down to the basics of the Spurs system. For example, where every offensive play the Spurs run in San Antonio has a first, second, third, and sometimes a fourth, option. The Toros playbook may only include the first two options for each play. The system in Austin is enough so that if a player were to be called-up to San Antonio, he would at least have a basic grasp on the system and wouldn’t be lost.

With the team’s first game of the season tonight against the Maine Red Claws in Portland, ME, it’ll be interesting to see how much this year’s team has absorbed of the system.

Some other notes from Toros media day:

* I talked to Marcus Cousin for a few minutes about going to training camp with the Spurs. I attempted to get him to tell me all the dirty big man tricks that Tim Duncan and Antonio McDyess taught him. He tried to tell me there’s no such things, but I don’t believe him.
* The NBA uses the D-League as a way to experiment and test new ideas. I was curious if the Spurs did the same thing and tested out new ideas in Austin, in terms of plays, defense, etc. and I asked Coach Jones about it. He told me that he hadn’t been on the job long enough for those requests to really be passed to him yet, but did say that the Spurs have the Toros testing a new sports nutrition and sports medicine plan that’s a bit of a secret. If I can learn any more about this and pass it along, I will.

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TymeLessKnicks
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11/19/2010  7:47 PM
only the texas teams have their own d-league affiliate. all other teams are sharing.

the d-league has a terrible name and just seems like a good plan with poor execution. there is no reason why there cant be a proper nba minor league in the US.

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11/19/2010  7:51 PM
not really the point of the thread... but this coach sounds like a young d'antoni:

Last season, Coach Snyder mentioned after a game that he liked to play at a fast pace in the D-League, because it was easier to get guys to buy into the team concept when everyone knew they were going to put up good numbers.

“I think they averaged like 113 points a game last year,” Coach Jones said. “I don’t know if we’ll average that. We’re definitely going to play an up-tempo pace. But at the same time we’re going to play hopefully where the ball’s moving, guys get a lot of touches and — like I told these guys — so guys can show their talent and what they can do within the framework of our team system.”

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11/19/2010  8:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/19/2010  8:23 PM
I agree, D-league if they promoted right, could be a lower priced offering than the NBA. A place a family could go more often without breaking the bank. That is if they were willing to put more money into it.

I also agree with Tymeless, the name sounds more like a grade.

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11/19/2010  8:34 PM
There was talk of expanding to Harlem at a building near city college on 135 and convent Ave. There was an article on in that was posted on these forums the last time the subject came up.
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11/19/2010  9:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/19/2010  9:13 PM
Your boy Russian Mark Cuban is joining the party and making the Springfield Armor the second single-affliate D-League team (for the Nyets) in 11-12:

http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/armor_nets_101111.html

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11/19/2010  9:32 PM
TymeLessKnicks wrote:only the texas teams have their own d-league affiliate. all other teams are sharing.

the d-league has a terrible name and just seems like a good plan with poor execution. there is no reason why there cant be a proper nba minor league in the US.

Nope. The Lakers have their own D-League team also.

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11/20/2010  1:55 AM
i hope we get..then make herb williams the coach
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11/20/2010  2:10 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/20/2010  2:11 AM
K22 wrote:
TymeLessKnicks wrote:only the texas teams have their own d-league affiliate. all other teams are sharing.

the d-league has a terrible name and just seems like a good plan with poor execution. there is no reason why there cant be a proper nba minor league in the US.

Nope. The Lakers have their own D-League team also.


hmm...according to wikipedia they share with the clippers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Development_League

but i did miss that the thunder also have their own team.

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unstopaball12
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11/20/2010  2:24 AM
we should make jerome jordan and rautins play there
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11/20/2010  11:45 AM
unstopaball12 wrote:we should make jerome jordan and rautins play there

We also need some league for players like Eddy... F-league

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why dont the Knicks have a full on D-league team (no sharing)?

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