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11/16/2010  10:26 PM
Set The Wayback Machine for June 25, 2010

"Landry Fields, who averaged 22 points and 8.8 rebounds at Stanford last season, is an athletic 6-foot-7 swingman with a versatile game. Fields’s 39-inch vertical leap was second highest among the players the Knicks worked out before the draft.

Fields said his basketball intelligence and his ability to fill multiple roles would make him valuable. He did not receive much publicity as a draft prospect, which he attributed to playing on the West Coast.

The Knicks saw promise in his potential. “Fields, I think, is a super athlete-type guy,” Donnie Walsh, the Knicks’ president, said. “His game is ahead of him. If you look at his stats, he had tremendous stats.”

- NYT

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11/16/2010  10:29 PM
11 rebounds in first half versus Nuggets.

Fields: "What did Love get? I'm in range."

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11/16/2010  10:32 PM
Best pre draft piece on Fields from June 23, 2010 by Jake Curtis

http://www.examiner.com/stanford-cardinal-basketball-in-san-francisco/landry-fields-not-expected-to-get-drafted-by-nba-but-why


And here are the reasons he probably won’t get drafted:

- Lack of team success – The Cardinal was a mediocre team, and NBA guys figure pro-level players can elevate their team.

- Physical limitations – Fields is fluid and a pretty good jumper, but you would not consider him an outstanding athlete. And though he is a lot stronger than he was just a year or two ago, he is still thin and could get pushed around in the pros. (Of course, that did not prevent the NBA from taking Josh Childress with the sixth overall pick.) Fields could be a defensive liability in one-on-one situations.

- Suspect shot – Fields was a decent outside shooter, hitting 33.7 percent of his three-pointers, but he probably has not convinced NBA scouts he has the range needed to play the wing spot in the pros. He was mediocre at the foul line (69.6 percent), and the flat trajectory and severe backspin on his shot are not particularly attractive to scouts either.

- Only one standout season -- During Fields' first three college seasons, nobody thought he was pro material, and a single standout year may not be enough to convince NBA officials he can do it on a regular basis.

- Weird size -- At 6-7, Fields has to be a small forward or shooting guard in the pros, and much of his success in college came in the paint. Scouts don't expect him to do much damage inside in the NBA, despite his repertoire of half hooks and turnaround jumpers.

Bottom line: Fields will not get drafted, but he will make an NBA roster, if not this coming season, then the next season.

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11/16/2010  11:31 PM
21 and 17


Nuggets Announcer: "... (Fields) outhustling four Nuggets"


Knicks president Donnie Walsh and others in the Knicks brass thought they had a steal immediately on draft day, and couldn’t figure out why Fields would be available in the middle of the second round. It was almost as if they were taking advantage of the “Moneyball” theory and applying it to the NBA. Let the others go after the younger, higher risk-higher reward "rolls of the dice." The Knicks would go with the larger sample size of data.

Throw in the fact that Fields also has close to a 40-inch vertical leap and a Pac-10 Scholar-Athlete of the Year award under his belt, and this pick started to make a lot of sense.

Playing in a 4-out, 1-in system (4 perimeter players and 1 player in the post on offense) his junior and senior year enabled Fields to become an extremely skilled and well-rounded player, one who could dribble, pass and shoot -- and defend three different positions. Developing into a No. 1 scoring option for the Cardinal also forced Fields to develop into a high-level decision-maker at his position, as well as becoming more adept at creating his own shot, a skill key at the next level.

... by taking advantage of an under-utilized niche market in NBA player evaluation, the Knicks have created a very interesting story, one worth watching. If you're a productive college senior hoping to have your name called on draft day, you better be rooting for Fields.


- Don Shell, CSN Bay Area

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11/16/2010  11:46 PM
I really like this kid Fields. He plays the game right. He plays the entire game, inside, outside and on both sides of the floor. I want to see field and Douglas starting in the backcourt. That is a good defensive backcourt and they can score.

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11/16/2010  11:47 PM
Fields is the only great thing about this season to this point.
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11/17/2010  12:18 AM
oohah wrote:I really like this kid Fields. He plays the game right. He plays the entire game, inside, outside and on both sides of the floor. I want to see field and Douglas starting in the backcourt. That is a good defensive backcourt and they can score.

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Do you really think that Fields can compensate the dummy Douglas? This is tuff job for the rooky...

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11/17/2010  12:20 AM
Hopefully he can play that Wesley Matthews/Matt Barnes role for us in the future.
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11/17/2010  12:22 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Hopefully he can play that Wesley Matthews/Matt Barnes role for us in the future.

hopefully? he's already better than both of them IMHO

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11/17/2010  12:23 AM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Hopefully he can play that Wesley Matthews/Matt Barnes role for us in the future.

hopefully? he's already better than both of them IMHO

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Both of those guys have played on winning teams and contributed.

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11/17/2010  12:24 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Hopefully he can play that Wesley Matthews/Matt Barnes role for us in the future.

hopefully? he's already better than both of them IMHO

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Both of those guys have played on winning teams and contributed.

true, but you dont have to play on a winning team to be qualified as a very good player or better than either of those guys.

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11/17/2010  12:30 AM
Fields has locked down 38 minutes--he has earned them.

Now if these guys would stop shoot 15 good 3's and take it to the rin the other 16 times we would win some games.

3pt shot is killing T Douglas game setting up at 3 pt line has screwed up randolphs game(I thought randolph could give similar effort as Fields but he is shot and his energy is very low)

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11/17/2010  12:36 AM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Hopefully he can play that Wesley Matthews/Matt Barnes role for us in the future.

hopefully? he's already better than both of them IMHO

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Both of those guys have played on winning teams and contributed.

true, but you dont have to play on a winning team to be qualified as a very good player or better than either of those guys.

I doubt Landry will be able to sustain his rate of play for the entire season. His great play is based off a high energy level and hustle plays. 82 game is a LONG season.

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11/17/2010  12:39 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Hopefully he can play that Wesley Matthews/Matt Barnes role for us in the future.

hopefully? he's already better than both of them IMHO

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Both of those guys have played on winning teams and contributed.

true, but you dont have to play on a winning team to be qualified as a very good player or better than either of those guys.

I doubt Landry will be able to sustain his rate of play for the entire season. His great play is based off a high energy level and hustle plays. 82 game is a LONG season.

first no one said he should have been drafted.

then everyone was surprised at his play in SL.

Then no one believed he would get rotation minutes.

Then no one believed he would stick or be good as a starter.

And Fields keeps proving us wrong.

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11/17/2010  12:43 AM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Hopefully he can play that Wesley Matthews/Matt Barnes role for us in the future.

hopefully? he's already better than both of them IMHO

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Both of those guys have played on winning teams and contributed.

true, but you dont have to play on a winning team to be qualified as a very good player or better than either of those guys.

I doubt Landry will be able to sustain his rate of play for the entire season. His great play is based off a high energy level and hustle plays. 82 game is a LONG season.

first no one said he should have been drafted.

then everyone was surprised at his play in SL.

Then no one believed he would get rotation minutes.

Then no one believed he would stick or be good as a starter.

And Fields keeps proving us wrong.

Heh I was 110% wrong about the guy. I thought he was a scrub. He is definitely a solid role player in the NBA. He could get better but I dont see anything that suggests that too me just yet.

Like I said he looks so good because he is playing at a high energy level every minute he is on the floor. He isnt taking plays off. Now while that is awesome when you are playing 15 minutes a game it starts to take it's toll when playing 30 minutes a game as a rookie.

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11/17/2010  12:49 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Hopefully he can play that Wesley Matthews/Matt Barnes role for us in the future.

hopefully? he's already better than both of them IMHO

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Both of those guys have played on winning teams and contributed.

true, but you dont have to play on a winning team to be qualified as a very good player or better than either of those guys.

I doubt Landry will be able to sustain his rate of play for the entire season. His great play is based off a high energy level and hustle plays. 82 game is a LONG season.

first no one said he should have been drafted.

then everyone was surprised at his play in SL.

Then no one believed he would get rotation minutes.

Then no one believed he would stick or be good as a starter.

And Fields keeps proving us wrong.

Heh I was 110% wrong about the guy. I thought he was a scrub. He is definitely a solid role player in the NBA. He could get better but I dont see anything that suggests that too me just yet.

Like I said he looks so good because he is playing at a high energy level every minute he is on the floor. He isnt taking plays off. Now while that is awesome when you are playing 15 minutes a game it starts to take it's toll when playing 30 minutes a game as a rookie.

no doubt about it. Landry will hit the rookie wall, but on the other hand, lots of reports out there on how shocked Amare was when he saw the shape that Fields came into camp.

And Landry is averaging just a smudge under 30 minutes a game already, not 15. And he is getting stronger by the game, not wilting. And this is all the while during a losing streak, which should frustrate the guy.

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11/17/2010  8:00 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/17/2010  8:00 AM
"I doubt Landry will be able to sustain his rate of play for the entire season. His great play is based off a high energy level and hustle plays. 82 game is a LONG season."

AnubisADL - there is absolutely NOTHING in Landry's history and progression that suggests he will suddenly backslide into Bolivian. Enough with the nattering, naysaying and negativity. If Landry makes the All Star team in 2-3 years, you would probably suggest he is a one-hit-wonder.

The brother dropped 22 and 8 and was he best player in the Pac-10 conference. He can jump out of the gym and is the most complete player on a roster that includes Amar'e Stoudemire. His play is NOT based on "hustle plays". That is a loose generalization that doesn't begin to break down his diverse skill set.

Fields brings much more than "hustle plays". Hustle plays? I don't think so. One can hustle and not be in position to make a play. Rookie Jordan Hill "hustled" but he didn't understand positioning, game flow or spacing. Fields has that quality that Bill Bradley described so accurately in his book, "Life On The Run."

As Bill Bradley distilled basketball into perfect terms, Fields understands where he is on the court.

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11/17/2010  8:05 AM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Hopefully he can play that Wesley Matthews/Matt Barnes role for us in the future.

hopefully? he's already better than both of them IMHO

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Both of those guys have played on winning teams and contributed.

true, but you dont have to play on a winning team to be qualified as a very good player or better than either of those guys.

I doubt Landry will be able to sustain his rate of play for the entire season. His great play is based off a high energy level and hustle plays. 82 game is a LONG season.

first no one said he should have been drafted.

then everyone was surprised at his play in SL.

Then no one believed he would get rotation minutes.

Then no one believed he would stick or be good as a starter.

And Fields keeps proving us wrong.

plenty of us were happy w/the Fields pick, especially after we did some digging & watched some film of the kid's play in college... his SL play just bolstered that confidence... it was Rautins that people were always shaky on from the get go.

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11/17/2010  8:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/17/2010  8:40 AM
June 25, 2010

"And Landry Fields was hands down the worst pick in the draft for the value he was taken in. He may not even be a good D-League player. If this is the message Donnie Walsh is sending to free agents, they’ll head elsewhere." - SprungOnSports

Draft Graders Bash The Knicks' Picks

"The Knicks used their only two draft picks this year, at Nos. 38 and 39 overall, on shooting guards Andy Rautins and Landry Fields. And while wing depth is certainly an issue for the Knicks, nobody anywhere has any idea what they were thinking with those selections. Just check out some of the draft grades and commentary the analysts are dishing today."

- Evan Dunlap

"Landry Fields will likely struggle to make an impact as well. While he was a stud at Stanford, he doesn't really have the jumper or ball-handling to play outside or the size to play inside. I realize that it's hard to find talent in the second round, but a big man that could defend and rebound would have made more sense than a 'tweener forward that isn't going to push Wilson Chandler or Danilo Gallinari and a shooter off the bench."

- TheBleacher Report

" Fields was a plain old blunder. Players like him are a dime a dozen in the D-League, and that will be where he heads right away – and probably stays for a while. There were better uses for these picks." -NBADraft.net

"New York Knicks: D-plus

"Fields was a plain old blunder. Players like him are a dime a dozen in the D-League, and that will be where he heads right away - and probably stays for a while. There were better uses for these picks."

- Fox News

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11/17/2010  9:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/17/2010  9:36 AM
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=35263&page=1

as you can see there were plenty of posters on this forum who've liked this kid ever since he was drafted after they checked out some of his college footage long before you became the self appointed president of the Landry Fields Fan club.

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