Fields is a rookie so he can't tell anyone what to do. He's probably confused because the coach told him to stop cutting so damn much.

Amare is known for driving to the hoop and having tunnel vision.
AR..not the sharpest tack in the box.
Chandler..definitely not.
TD..definitely not.

Felton is a veteran AND he's the PG so in my mind he should be the player that says things like

"Hey Gallo when we run after a miss...maybe wait for the rest of our team to get down the floor before launching a 3 or better yet take it to the F-in hole!"

"Hey TD you gotta see that open guy under the basket when u get into the lane and someone comes over to help"

It doesn't seem like he's doing that.

Maybe we're just collectively a dumb team.

"= 10"

I guarantee if Skiles was our coach guys would be playing the "right" way or sitting next to Skiles on the bench. So you be playing the "right" way or not playing at all.

AnubisADL wrote:Im tired of hearing the collective IQ excuse.

I guarantee if Skiles was our coach guys would be playing the "right" way or sitting next to Skiles on the bench. So you be playing the "right" way or not playing at all.

D'Antoni has benched Wilson Chandler, Gallinari, Timofey on several occassions, Toney Douglas, Felton, Randolph and Mason. The only guys that seem to have avoided any prolonged benchings have been Turiaf, Fields and Amare. Can you clarify your statement? Are their guys getting a free pass?

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Im tired of hearing the collective IQ excuse.

I guarantee if Skiles was our coach guys would be playing the "right" way or sitting next to Skiles on the bench. So you be playing the "right" way or not playing at all.

I don't know how it's an "excuse". The team has low IQ. we are losing. What exactly do you mean?

That we don't have a low basketball IQ?
That we do, but we should still be winning while making dumb decisions?

That it's up to the coach to instill a system that works so the players don't have to think?

What are you saying?

Yes, it is an excuse.

And Yes, we have a low IQ team.

A coach (not even a great coach), can coach a low IQ team to perform better than we have. The problem is....(drum role please)....WE DONT HAVE A COACH. We have an offensive coordinator who needs a team with a high IQ to mask his coaching deficiencies. "The Mike Martz of basketball"

MDA and Amari are being exposed right now. Plain a simple

blkexec wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Im tired of hearing the collective IQ excuse.

I guarantee if Skiles was our coach guys would be playing the "right" way or sitting next to Skiles on the bench. So you be playing the "right" way or not playing at all.

I don't know how it's an "excuse". The team has low IQ. we are losing. What exactly do you mean?

That we don't have a low basketball IQ?
That we do, but we should still be winning while making dumb decisions?

That it's up to the coach to instill a system that works so the players don't have to think?

What are you saying?

Yes, it is an excuse.

And Yes, we have a low IQ team.

A coach (not even a great coach), can coach a low IQ team to perform better than we have. The problem is....(drum role please)....WE DONT HAVE A COACH. We have an offensive coordinator who needs a team with a high IQ to mask his coaching deficiencies. "The Mike Martz of basketball"

MDA and Amari are being exposed right now. Plain a simple

I know that's the popular take on MDA and I have my own issues with him. Namely that he doesn't seem to be adjusting to his personnel. There is no Steve Nash here. There aren't a bunch of guys who can shoot 3s. But he keeps trying to install SSOL.

Oddly enough, I think the stats show that the Knicks have improved on defense this season.

From Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus:

"Trending team: New York Knicks
To their arsenal of 3-pointers and pick-and-rolls, the Knicks have added a new weapon: the blocked shot. New York leads the league in rejections, averaging eight a night over the season's first six games. That's a major change, given that the Knicks blocked a lower percentage of opponents' 2-point attempts than any other team in the NBA during 2009-10. But it is a change that could have been predicted.

SCHOENE, Basketball Prospectus' system for projecting player and team performance, indicated before the season that New York would rank second in the league in block percentage. The improvement can be explained by the Knicks adding two shot-blockers (Ronny Turiaf and Amar'e Stoudemire) who were better at swatting attempts than anyone who saw regular minutes in New York last season. New York already had one of the league's top shot-blockers from the wing in Wilson Chandler, but playing bigger lineups figured to enhance the Knicks' prowess in that area overall. Chandler and Turiaf both rank in the NBA's top 10, with better than two blocks per game, and Stoudemire is not far behind.

More importantly, the blocks have translated into an improved Knicks defense. Stopping opponents at the rim was a major problem for New York last season. Opposing teams made 63.5 percent of their tries at the rim in 2009-10, according to Hoopdata.com, which was the league's sixth-worst mark. Before Sunday's loss to Philadelphia, the Knicks' 55.3 percent accuracy allowed on layups and dunks was good for third in the NBA.

New York's overall defense has made equally notable strides. The Knicks have gone from 27th in the league in defensive rating to seventh before Sunday's game. In fact, through the first five games of the season, New York was actually better on defense than offense on a per-possession basis."

This may have been written before Kevin Love and Michael Beasley pooped on the Knicks along with Scola. We may be missing Ronny Turiaf a lot. Without him we don't really have a guy who can guard one on one in the post. If we're forced to double guys like Love and Scola who can pass out of the post will cut us up.

martin wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Is it me or does it seem like everyone on our team other than Fields isn't all that smart basketball wise?

Fields is a rookie so he can't tell anyone what to do. He's probably confused because the coach told him to stop cutting so damn much.

Amare is known for driving to the hoop and having tunnel vision.
AR..not the sharpest tack in the box.
Chandler..definitely not.
TD..definitely not.

Felton is a veteran AND he's the PG so in my mind he should be the player that says things like

"Hey Gallo when we run after a miss...maybe wait for the rest of our team to get down the floor before launching a 3 or better yet take it to the F-in hole!"

"Hey TD you gotta see that open guy under the basket when u get into the lane and someone comes over to help"

It doesn't seem like he's doing that.

Maybe we're just collectively a dumb team.

part of it lack of leadership (Amare and Felton IMHO have provided zero and are def part of the problem), part of it is coach (the hell is he doing or not doing), and part of it is some key injuries (Turiaf is calming out there and I gotta guess that having a healthy Buke will help).

All this talk about Turiaf being hurt having a negative impact on us is starting to make me wonder how bad we are if our success is dependent on a washed up role player throw in?