Knicksfan wrote:I chose option #3 but I do believe this coach isn't fit for this team. We may not have superstars, but we aren't as bad as we have looked. But the truth is, everybody seems to be playing out of their games in order to run the coach's system, which at this point is shooting as many threes as you can. Come on, Amar'e shooting a three in the final minute of a close game? He made the shot, but that is so far from his game, I can't believe there aren't more people saying this. We only shoot three after three. If the players still haven't learned the system, fine. Run a few plays to get mid range shots. Preach to drive the ball to the basket more. But no, we are gonna win or lose with the three. This is ridiculous. This team would look better and have a better record with a more traditional coach.

And why waste a full season with this coach if the players won't learn anything from it? I fire him once I see the team is going nowhere with him. This isn't a bad stretch for him, this is the way he coaches. He won't change, even if his players are better suited for another type of gameplan.

I never knew Amare had the 3 point range, but i never honestly expected us to have to turn to that part of his game in the closing minutes. I mean, maybe he can use that to open things up a bit driving to the hoop. Then again, I think he will be given the 3 pointer this whole season if he really wants to rely on it to score. I just would rather see him not have to rely on that part of his game.

GustavBahler wrote:D'Antoni was here when Walsh was clearing out the roster for 2010, he finally has the talent to be competitive, I would want him to get at least this season before Walsh made a move.

Coach deserves a season to show that he can get everyone on the same page. I'm PO'd at his
inability to get his players to run and to play smart, but its early. No point in hitting the lifeboats just yet.

Trade the whole F.....G team for an ideal PG..

trade for 8 good three point shooters.

Or get rid of the coach, cause he's not going to win consistanly with this group as is. the Fire chants are coming By months end

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:D'Antoni was here when Walsh was clearing out the roster for 2010, he finally has the talent to be competitive, I would want him to get at least this season before Walsh made a move.

Coach deserves a season to show that he can get everyone on the same page. I'm PO'd at his
inability to get his players to run and to play smart, but its early. No point in hitting the lifeboats just yet.

I think if you discount D'Antoni's first two years in NY and the damage that he did and the assets that he devalued, then you have to say he mailed it in. If you judge him on what happened and how he handled things my guess is that you agree with me that he will not be successful in NY and that he didn't realize that he was not only in the perfect situation with Nash in Phoenix but probably the only one where he can be successful as a coach.

D'Antoni agreed to take the job with the understanding that this team was not going anywhere because they were going to empty the roster which put him at a very serious disadvantage.

It would be in bad form to dump him now not even a month into the season.
It would also reinforce the bad rep NY has when it comes to treating their coaches even
if some of them deserved what they got.

It doesn't mater if we believe that it won't work. He was brought here primarily for the second two years, not the first two. One season says at least the Knicks gave him a fair chance to prove himself. Firing him after one month with a new roster comes off as hasty

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I got 2 more options

Trade the whole F.....G team for an ideal PG..

trade for 8 good three point shooters.

Or get rid of the coach, cause he's not going to win consistanly with this group as is. the Fire chants are coming By months end

The Knicks needed to land LBj and another star to overcome D'Antoni's coaching faults and communication difficulties if they wanted to win with him. Maybe he can develop in his craft with this team that is talented but young. Tonight was not a good night for him. His team looked like the team I have watched for the last two years as far as concerns and what needs to be improved.

Dude this guy has had 3 different rosters, playing the exact same way. WTf, even if we won this game against GSW, i would still be piss. We allowed 74 points in the paint, and they shot 52% from the field. We drove the ball to get back in the game (2 and 1's during the 14-0 run), settled for 2 horrible 3's on our last 2 possesions, called 2 (don chaney like) time outs for no reason that left us with none (oh were so young and inexperience) and gallo shoots a half court shot with 21 seconds on the shot clock, and 38 seconds on the game clock down by 3..

GustavBahler wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:D'Antoni was here when Walsh was clearing out the roster for 2010, he finally has the talent to be competitive, I would want him to get at least this season before Walsh made a move.

Coach deserves a season to show that he can get everyone on the same page. I'm PO'd at his
inability to get his players to run and to play smart, but its early. No point in hitting the lifeboats just yet.

I think if you discount D'Antoni's first two years in NY and the damage that he did and the assets that he devalued, then you have to say he mailed it in. If you judge him on what happened and how he handled things my guess is that you agree with me that he will not be successful in NY and that he didn't realize that he was not only in the perfect situation with Nash in Phoenix but probably the only one where he can be successful as a coach.

D'Antoni agreed to take the job with the understanding that this team was not going anywhere because they were going to empty the roster which put him at a very serious disadvantage.

It would be in bad form to dump him now not even a month into the season.
It would also reinforce the bad rep NY has when it comes to treating their coaches even
if some of them deserved what they got.

It doesn't mater if we believe that it won't work. He was brought here primarily for the second two years, not the first two. One season says at least the Knicks gave him a fair chance to prove himself. Firing him after one month with a new roster comes off as hasty

the bold part is the only item i disagree with. given the knicks 8+ years of garbage play, coaching hires/fires, mike still took the $$$. i think the $$$ ny can offer will trump whatever perceived treatment of coaches will do. more likely the chances to win and the scrutiny of not winning could keep away "better" coaches. if a coach (or FO) isnt getting it done, no need to feel bad about removing them.

Also this offense isn't really only about shooting 3's, but when you don't run the other aspects of the offense properly all you have left is jumpers. The problem is clearly the decision making of the players themselves. They must learn when it's appropriate to shoot the 3 and recognize the other options they have available. Since we don't have another Star like Melo or CP3 etc. This teams many role players have to do just that, play their roles.