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Nalod
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11/1/2010  11:06 AM

Say Eddy does expire and Melo does not arrive, there are so many non star players not getting extentions that have proven themselves as solid pro's or injured problems.

Rodney Stucky as a solid 2 guard.

Or

Brandon Wright as Injured always but talented guy that just needs to grow into an NBA body.

These are not starphuchs but we got cap, and a player whom might not get matched but could enhance his career and servicablity in the right system.

I don't know these players verbatam but we might need them.

They make good trading chips or solid service players to fill needs.

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NYKBocker
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11/1/2010  11:16 AM
This is a great topic. Rodney Stuckey would be great but he is an RFA. He would be harder to get. I would try to get Shane Battier since he is a UFA. One RFA this summer is Chris Douglas-Roberts. I really liked his game and I think he would do well in this system. He would be a cheap sign.
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11/1/2010  11:19 AM
Is that true? Battier would be a UFA? I would LOVE to get Battier here. CDR - I haven't seen enough of him.
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NYKBocker
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11/1/2010  11:55 AM
loweyecue wrote:Is that true? Battier would be a UFA? I would LOVE to get Battier here. CDR - I haven't seen enough of him.

http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents/2011/

knicks1248
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11/1/2010  12:25 PM
We have 14 role players already...I would do nothing unless its aquiring another super star...what is stucky or shane gonna bring that we don't have..the roster we have is a .500 team at best, unless we over achieve. More role plays ain't the answer
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Nalod
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11/1/2010  1:59 PM
knicks1248 wrote:We have 14 role players already...I would do nothing unless its aquiring another super star...what is stucky or shane gonna bring that we don't have..the roster we have is a .500 team at best, unless we over achieve. More role plays ain't the answer


Good point, but some we do let go. Maybe we let Chandler walk if another team values him more than we do.

Likewise, others don't value thiers as we might.

Good players obtained, cultivated in a good system gain in value as players or trading chips.

My point is that we might get Melo, but we will have to shed players either by trade or cap fall off. Two for one trades are harder to do. Ask Indy.

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11/1/2010  2:23 PM
you can win without a 2nd superstar. Nets went to a couple finals. Detriot won a title and went to b2b finals.

Its 3 games into the season but I would concentrate on defense and rebounding.

I think a guy who is pretty underrated and would look great here is Sam Dalembert. Hes a guy who will give you 10ppg 12rpg and be among leage leaders in blocks. He's not as good a m2m defender as Amare but he's 10x the help defender.

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11/1/2010  2:55 PM
fishmike wrote:you can win without a 2nd superstar. Nets went to a couple finals. Detriot won a title and went to b2b finals.

Its 3 games into the season but I would concentrate on defense and rebounding.

I think a guy who is pretty underrated and would look great here is Sam Dalembert. Hes a guy who will give you 10ppg 12rpg and be among leage leaders in blocks. He's not as good a m2m defender as Amare but he's 10x the help defender.

Yup.

If there is no star available you still have to look at solid roleplayers or take gambles on underachievers who may do better in a new home. At the very least you acquire assets which can be used at another time in a trade.

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loweyecue
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11/1/2010  3:07 PM
Right, I would much rather have good role players than overpay for malcontent second tier STARS that are never able to deliver ala Isiah's Knicks
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Nalod
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11/1/2010  3:36 PM
Nash went nuts with MDA. That kind of upgrade. Good player no doubt, but he was not MVP type in Dallas.

Shawn Marrion was never the same after MDA. IN fact his value bloated in the system.

The Barbosa type bubble player.

These guys add up.

And, that degree this is what we hope for with out current roster.

3 games in, no need to turn over AR and Gallo yet.

Maybe after 8 games we can panic.

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11/1/2010  3:45 PM
Nalod wrote:Nash went nuts with MDA. That kind of upgrade. Good player no doubt, but he was not MVP type in Dallas.

Shawn Marrion was never the same after MDA. IN fact his value bloated in the system.

The Barbosa type bubble player.

These guys add up.

And, that degree this is what we hope for with out current roster.

3 games in, no need to turn over AR and Gallo yet.

Maybe after 8 games we can panic.


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11/1/2010  5:01 PM
I was thinking about Battier the other day. He would be an insanely good player to have in this system. Dude can D up multiple positions, is a heady player and can hit the open J. Even at his age he would be great to have as a reserve 4-5 for 25-30 min a game.
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TMS
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11/1/2010  5:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/1/2010  5:30 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:I was thinking about Battier the other day. He would be an insanely good player to have in this system. Dude can D up multiple positions, is a heady player and can hit the open J.

i think Landry Fields will grow into that role eventually... Battier's leadership would be invaluable, but he only makes sense if we take the step to get Melo & make a serious push for the playoffs.

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GodSaveTheKnicks
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11/1/2010  5:42 PM
My Plan B.2 is to cry and drink in some order
Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
TMS
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11/1/2010  6:08 PM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:My Plan B.2 is to cry and drink in some order

that sounds more like my plan A, except with less crying & more drinking

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11/1/2010  6:24 PM
Mike Conley is interesting too. He's taken a while to develop but coming along real nice. Don't know if he would be much of an upgrade over Felton in terms of running SSOL. Def. a better outside shooter (38%) career and young.

Another young PG with a nice outside shot is Aaron Brooks but I could see him being a defensive liability against bigger pgs and on any pick and rolls where he gets stuck on a bigger player.

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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11/1/2010  6:28 PM
We dont want to rush to sign role players. I like Stuckey and CDR, but the goal is to sign all star types. Why do you think we spent 2 years getting under the cap? We have to weave through the players we have and decide who is a part of the future combined with who we can afford to acquire. The goal is to set a foundation. We pair Amare up with another star or 2 and then we work from there. If we do sign some role players right now they need to be on very short leashes so we stay flexible.
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11/1/2010  6:46 PM
TMS wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:I was thinking about Battier the other day. He would be an insanely good player to have in this system. Dude can D up multiple positions, is a heady player and can hit the open J.

i think Landry Fields will grow into that role eventually... Battier's leadership would be invaluable, but he only makes sense if we take the step to get Melo & make a serious push for the playoffs.

Yup.

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GustavBahler
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11/1/2010  8:00 PM
If we don't get Melo I want Fields/Randoph/Mosgov to get as
much time on the court as possible. We aren't contending this year unless there is a blockbuster trade but there is the opportunity to fast track the development of the Knicks new addtitions. Lets find out for sure this season what the Knicks have before we add anyone else unless its for someone at the end of the bench.
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11/1/2010  8:17 PM
I forgot to add TD.
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