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Knixkik
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10/26/2010  6:17 PM
Not sure if this was posted, but very interesting take by an unnamed current NBA player.

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I know fans love predictions from the experts. Well, you can listen to guys who have never even played in the NBA -- or, in a few cases, haven't played for a while -- or you can take it from me, a real player who's on the court every single game. Here's my view of how things will go down in the 2010-11 season:


SURPRISE TEAM: KNICKS
New York may have missed out on LeBron, but Amar'e Stoudemire is a great consolation prize. He doesn't rebound, but he's one of the best players in the league and he's playing in the perfect system for him. And that's not all I like about the Knicks. That Danilo Gallinari is dangerous. Starting this season, he'll become a mini-Durant -- and that will pose a major matchup nightmare for teams. With Amar'e in the middle, Gallinari has the ability to hit 10 3s a game, and he's developing his mid-range shot and dribble, too. They've definitely got some pieces to be excited about. But they're not getting that big piece from Denver ...

THE DEAL THAT WON'T HAPPEN: MELO TO THE KNICKS
I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense, but that's fine. He's the second-best scorer in the league behind Kevin Durant. He wants to carry his team, he has the balls to be scary in the playoffs and, most importantly, he wants to win. Well, Denver knows this stuff, too, and that's why they aren't sending him anywhere. You can't get close to equal value for a guy like that. Oh, and will someone please relay this message to Chicago: You guys are crazy! If I'm the Bulls, I give up Noah and my first-born to get Melo. Noah is a nice player, but he's no Melo. Their hard-bargain makes zero sense.


THE (ODD) DEAL THAT COULD HAPPEN: MELO TO THE LAKERS (NEXT SUMMER)
I'm hearing Carmelo to LA. People are saying the Lakers are looking for a new face who can step in to replace Kobe when he's ready to retire. It's never too early to start looking for your next star, I guess.

MVP: KEVIN DURANT
No chance Kobe wins another MVP. That means the next few (or more) MVPs will be awarded to the kid in Oklahoma City. Forget LeBron, D-Wade and Melo. They all had their shot. It's over for them. They're going to step aside -- or get pushed aside -- by KD. He'll average 35 ppg and I predict that, in a season not far away, he'll average 50, easy. He's that good. And, at that point, you might see the first player in modern history to require a triple-team. He will absolutely go down as one of the top five players in the history of the NBA, alongside MJ, Kobe, Wilt and Bill Russell. That KD, he's the real story of the season. Don't sleep on him.

EAST FINALS: HEAT OVER CELTICS
They're a little older, sure, but the Celtics are at least two-deep at every position, and that's as good as we've seen them. The second-best moves of the offseason happened in Boston. It's just too bad Shaq is too lazy and too into being a TV star to get in top shape -- he could play four more years if he wanted to -- but he's still a beast in the paint. And forget what you've heard about Jermaine O'Neal being washed up. He's not. In fact, he's hungry and healthy, and he's more of a team player now and is still very effective on the court. If he's your fifth-best player, you are a dangerous team. But still not quite good enough.

The Cs are scared of Miami -- I've personally heard this from one of their horse's mouths -- and with good reason. I already covered the Heat in my previous column, but I like them even more now. They'll be a beast because the Big Three will share the wealth. None of them is selfish, they can all pass and they're three of the smartest players I've seen. (Yeah, I'm including Chris Bosh. Smart dude.) It's like the Celtics when they got their Big Three, but with three differences: These guys are a) younger, b) more talented and c) going home without their rings.

WEST FINALS: LAKERS OVER THUNDER
I know some guys in LA, and they say the Thunder will be their most formidable opponent. They aren't a year or two away from being special -- they're already there. But the Lakers are just too damn good, and that was before they fortified their bench, swapping Jordan Farmar for Steve Blake, DJ Mbenga for Theo Ratliff and adding that feisty Matt Barnes.

NBA CHAMPIONS: LAKERS
Ron Artest disrupts LeBron as much as anybody can. Kobe wins his matchup with D-Wade. And sorry, CB -- Gasol is the best "4" in the league. Now, crazy things can happen. Let's say Andrew Bynum is gimpy. Or that LeBron plays out of his mind. Or that Fat Shaq whips himself into Semi-Fat Shaq and the Cs best the Heat to get back into the Finals. Fine. Whatever. Still, Kobe tips the scale. Forget MVPs. He's well on his way to becoming the best ever. The Heat will be a tough out -- LA will have to win another Game 7 -- but a healthier-than-last-season Kobe will average whatever he needs to average ... series over.

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I like the sound of the whole mini-Durant talk regarding Gallo. Also, i'm cool with no Melo trade, as long as we get him at the end of the process, whenever that is.

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10/26/2010  6:29 PM
I like his take Really tho, it's a huge thing to have a respected All Star on your team. Even if it's just one guy, it makes a difference. He's an efficient player and he gets to the line like crazy. Teams will have trouble stopping him cuz he's not a traditional post up big. He plays out in space and can hit from anywhere, even 3. Amar'e will have a heavy load to carry but I think he's made for it.

The thing is, if we get big performance from any 2 other guys it's a huge boost to our ability to win. It's not that far fetched to see that happening at some point. When everyone is in mid-season form this team is gonna be good.

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10/26/2010  6:34 PM
Interesting read. Sounds a litte bit like he has a man crush on KD.. It's like the whole league is acknowledging KD as the next King of NBA. I'm not disagreeing though, it's just funny how his whole image has taken an upswing after The Decision, him extending with OKC and representing USA at the WC. I don't remember people being this high on him at the end of last season.
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10/26/2010  8:42 PM
KD has the same image LBJ had at the same juncture of his career, extension and all
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10/26/2010  9:41 PM

The "STIG" player X lost me with Melo to Lakes.

They got cap space? THey going to do a blockbuster trade mid season without giving up Pau or Kobe?

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10/26/2010  10:04 PM
Nalod wrote:
The "STIG" player X lost me with Melo to Lakes.

They got cap space? THey going to do a blockbuster trade mid season without giving up Pau or Kobe?

That is exactly what is going to go down. If the Knicks don't make something happen. Lakers are entitled something the Knicks are not, that is the entitlement to receive gifts from the other teams.

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10/26/2010  10:27 PM
Vmart wrote:
Nalod wrote:
The "STIG" player X lost me with Melo to Lakes.

They got cap space? THey going to do a blockbuster trade mid season without giving up Pau or Kobe?

That is exactly what is going to go down. If the Knicks don't make something happen. Lakers are entitled something the Knicks are not, that is the entitlement to receive gifts from the other teams.

Not sure the Lakers would break up what they got on route to a championship. It would have to start with Artest... and then what?

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10/26/2010  10:42 PM
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Nalod wrote:
The "STIG" player X lost me with Melo to Lakes.

They got cap space? THey going to do a blockbuster trade mid season without giving up Pau or Kobe?

That is exactly what is going to go down. If the Knicks don't make something happen. Lakers are entitled something the Knicks are not, that is the entitlement to receive gifts from the other teams.

Not sure the Lakers would break up what they got on route to a championship. It would have to start with Artest... and then what?

Starts with Artest and possibly ends with Bynum and some picks.

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10/26/2010  10:48 PM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
Nalod wrote:
The "STIG" player X lost me with Melo to Lakes.

They got cap space? THey going to do a blockbuster trade mid season without giving up Pau or Kobe?

That is exactly what is going to go down. If the Knicks don't make something happen. Lakers are entitled something the Knicks are not, that is the entitlement to receive gifts from the other teams.

Not sure the Lakers would break up what they got on route to a championship. It would have to start with Artest... and then what?

Starts with Artest and possibly ends with Bynum and some picks.

That would be tough for Denver, who are trying to lower salary. And picks would be in the 28-30 range, right? And they would be breaking up a 2-time championship team.

I could see the Lakers going for it if they didn't think Bynum's knees would last much longer (although that's also something that Denver would ponder too) and if they wanted to make the trade to keep the continuity of winning past Kobe's retirement... but do you think they break up a championship team? Perhaps if they are doing VERY poorly during regular season.

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10/27/2010  12:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2010  12:22 AM
Knixkik wrote:THE DEAL THAT WON'T HAPPEN: MELO TO THE KNICKS
I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense, but that's fine. He's the second-best scorer in the league behind Kevin Durant. He wants to carry his team, he has the balls to be scary in the playoffs and, most importantly, he wants to win. Well, Denver knows this stuff, too, and that's why they aren't sending him anywhere. You can't get close to equal value for a guy like that. Oh, and will someone please relay this message to Chicago: You guys are crazy! If I'm the Bulls, I give up Noah and my first-born to get Melo. Noah is a nice player, but he's no Melo. Their hard-bargain makes zero sense.

pish posh... what does some NBA player know about judging basketball talent? i bet he doesn't even have a law degree! this guy obviously hasn't read the articles written by Tom Haberstroh & Bill Simmons.

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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10/27/2010  6:25 AM
I don't see the Lakers breaking up their team for Melo... Bynum even if he's only around for the playoffs is instrumental in getting past the other big teams (Magic, Celtics)
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10/27/2010  9:02 AM
was this a serious article? Durant is going to average 50ppg?
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10/27/2010  10:55 AM
This isn't the first i'm hearing about Bynum for Melo.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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10/27/2010  11:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2010  11:18 AM
TMS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:THE DEAL THAT WON'T HAPPEN: MELO TO THE KNICKS
I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense, but that's fine. He's the second-best scorer in the league behind Kevin Durant. He wants to carry his team, he has the balls to be scary in the playoffs and, most importantly, he wants to win. Well, Denver knows this stuff, too, and that's why they aren't sending him anywhere. You can't get close to equal value for a guy like that. Oh, and will someone please relay this message to Chicago: You guys are crazy! If I'm the Bulls, I give up Noah and my first-born to get Melo. Noah is a nice player, but he's no Melo. Their hard-bargain makes zero sense.

pish posh... what does some NBA player know about judging basketball talent? i bet he doesn't even have a law degree! this guy obviously hasn't read the articles written by Tom Haberstroh & Bill Simmons.

Dude you sound like a 4th grader. Notice he said second-best SCORER in the league.

He also said "I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense"

It also definitely seems like he thinks KD is heads and shoulders above Melo.

This is an NBA player right? You were just insinuating above that he should know how to judge basketball talent right? What do you think about what he just said?

How come you're not all offended? Did you do this selective reading thing through your Melo glasses again and pay attention to the good stuff and ignore the bad?

Oh my GOD someone said something less than effusive about Melo. What is he talking about? That's ridiculous!

I'll wait for your response to this unless you're going to pretend I didn't just poop all over what you just posted and go off and talk about something else.

I'll quote Ronnie from Jersey Shore.

"Come at me bro"

BTW, I've said plenty good about Melo. So has Haberstroh, Hollinger and the BP guys. But anything less than "He is Larry Bird but better" and you get your panties all in a bunch.

I say I think Melo is a great player but probably closer to one of the best scorers in the league but not an overall great player like a Lebron/Duncan type. He doesn't really seem to play D all the time, etc.

You go all bananas.

An NBA player just said it.

And..what now?

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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10/27/2010  11:17 AM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
TMS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:THE DEAL THAT WON'T HAPPEN: MELO TO THE KNICKS
I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense, but that's fine. He's the second-best scorer in the league behind Kevin Durant. He wants to carry his team, he has the balls to be scary in the playoffs and, most importantly, he wants to win. Well, Denver knows this stuff, too, and that's why they aren't sending him anywhere. You can't get close to equal value for a guy like that. Oh, and will someone please relay this message to Chicago: You guys are crazy! If I'm the Bulls, I give up Noah and my first-born to get Melo. Noah is a nice player, but he's no Melo. Their hard-bargain makes zero sense.

pish posh... what does some NBA player know about judging basketball talent? i bet he doesn't even have a law degree! this guy obviously hasn't read the articles written by Tom Haberstroh & Bill Simmons.

Dude you sound like a 4th grader. Notice he said second-best SCORER in the league.

He also said "I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense"

It also definitely seems like he thinks KD is heads and shoulders above Melo.

This is an NBA player right? You were just insinuating above that he should know how to judge basketball talent right? What do you think about what he just said?

How come you're not all offended? Did you do this selective reading thing through your Melo glasses again and pay attention to the good stuff and ignore the bad?

Oh my GOD someone said something less than effusive about Melo. What is he talking about? That's ridiculous!

I'll wait for your response to this unless you're going to pretend I didn't just poop all over what you just posted and go off and talk about something else.

I'll quote Ronnie from Jersey Shore.

"Come at me bro"

BTW, I've said plenty good about Melo. So has Haberstroh, Hollinger and the BP guys. But anything less than "He is Larry Bird but better" and you get your panties all in a bunch.

Oh, you think TMS was being serious? Sweet.

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10/27/2010  11:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2010  11:19 AM
firefly wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
TMS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:THE DEAL THAT WON'T HAPPEN: MELO TO THE KNICKS
I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense, but that's fine. He's the second-best scorer in the league behind Kevin Durant. He wants to carry his team, he has the balls to be scary in the playoffs and, most importantly, he wants to win. Well, Denver knows this stuff, too, and that's why they aren't sending him anywhere. You can't get close to equal value for a guy like that. Oh, and will someone please relay this message to Chicago: You guys are crazy! If I'm the Bulls, I give up Noah and my first-born to get Melo. Noah is a nice player, but he's no Melo. Their hard-bargain makes zero sense.

pish posh... what does some NBA player know about judging basketball talent? i bet he doesn't even have a law degree! this guy obviously hasn't read the articles written by Tom Haberstroh & Bill Simmons.

Dude you sound like a 4th grader. Notice he said second-best SCORER in the league.

He also said "I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense"

It also definitely seems like he thinks KD is heads and shoulders above Melo.

This is an NBA player right? You were just insinuating above that he should know how to judge basketball talent right? What do you think about what he just said?

How come you're not all offended? Did you do this selective reading thing through your Melo glasses again and pay attention to the good stuff and ignore the bad?

Oh my GOD someone said something less than effusive about Melo. What is he talking about? That's ridiculous!

I'll wait for your response to this unless you're going to pretend I didn't just poop all over what you just posted and go off and talk about something else.

I'll quote Ronnie from Jersey Shore.

"Come at me bro"

BTW, I've said plenty good about Melo. So has Haberstroh, Hollinger and the BP guys. But anything less than "He is Larry Bird but better" and you get your panties all in a bunch.

Oh, you think TMS was being serious? Sweet.

He wasn't being serious. He was obviously being sarcastic. But he was basically saying

This is an NBA player. His opinion is legit. I trust this more than what some egghead says.

Right?

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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10/27/2010  11:27 AM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
firefly wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
TMS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:THE DEAL THAT WON'T HAPPEN: MELO TO THE KNICKS
I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense, but that's fine. He's the second-best scorer in the league behind Kevin Durant. He wants to carry his team, he has the balls to be scary in the playoffs and, most importantly, he wants to win. Well, Denver knows this stuff, too, and that's why they aren't sending him anywhere. You can't get close to equal value for a guy like that. Oh, and will someone please relay this message to Chicago: You guys are crazy! If I'm the Bulls, I give up Noah and my first-born to get Melo. Noah is a nice player, but he's no Melo. Their hard-bargain makes zero sense.

pish posh... what does some NBA player know about judging basketball talent? i bet he doesn't even have a law degree! this guy obviously hasn't read the articles written by Tom Haberstroh & Bill Simmons.

Dude you sound like a 4th grader. Notice he said second-best SCORER in the league.

He also said "I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense"

It also definitely seems like he thinks KD is heads and shoulders above Melo.

This is an NBA player right? You were just insinuating above that he should know how to judge basketball talent right? What do you think about what he just said?

How come you're not all offended? Did you do this selective reading thing through your Melo glasses again and pay attention to the good stuff and ignore the bad?

Oh my GOD someone said something less than effusive about Melo. What is he talking about? That's ridiculous!

I'll wait for your response to this unless you're going to pretend I didn't just poop all over what you just posted and go off and talk about something else.

I'll quote Ronnie from Jersey Shore.

"Come at me bro"

BTW, I've said plenty good about Melo. So has Haberstroh, Hollinger and the BP guys. But anything less than "He is Larry Bird but better" and you get your panties all in a bunch.

Oh, you think TMS was being serious? Sweet.

He wasn't being serious. He was obviously being sarcastic. But he was basically saying

This is an NBA player. His opinion is legit. I trust this more than what some egghead says.

Right?

Yees. But... and maybe im geting involved in something I really dont want to be involved in but.... isnt he agreeing with you?

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10/27/2010  11:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2010  11:38 AM
firefly wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
firefly wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
TMS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:THE DEAL THAT WON'T HAPPEN: MELO TO THE KNICKS
I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense, but that's fine. He's the second-best scorer in the league behind Kevin Durant. He wants to carry his team, he has the balls to be scary in the playoffs and, most importantly, he wants to win. Well, Denver knows this stuff, too, and that's why they aren't sending him anywhere. You can't get close to equal value for a guy like that. Oh, and will someone please relay this message to Chicago: You guys are crazy! If I'm the Bulls, I give up Noah and my first-born to get Melo. Noah is a nice player, but he's no Melo. Their hard-bargain makes zero sense.

pish posh... what does some NBA player know about judging basketball talent? i bet he doesn't even have a law degree! this guy obviously hasn't read the articles written by Tom Haberstroh & Bill Simmons.

Dude you sound like a 4th grader. Notice he said second-best SCORER in the league.

He also said "I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense"

It also definitely seems like he thinks KD is heads and shoulders above Melo.

This is an NBA player right? You were just insinuating above that he should know how to judge basketball talent right? What do you think about what he just said?

How come you're not all offended? Did you do this selective reading thing through your Melo glasses again and pay attention to the good stuff and ignore the bad?

Oh my GOD someone said something less than effusive about Melo. What is he talking about? That's ridiculous!

I'll wait for your response to this unless you're going to pretend I didn't just poop all over what you just posted and go off and talk about something else.

I'll quote Ronnie from Jersey Shore.

"Come at me bro"

BTW, I've said plenty good about Melo. So has Haberstroh, Hollinger and the BP guys. But anything less than "He is Larry Bird but better" and you get your panties all in a bunch.

Oh, you think TMS was being serious? Sweet.

He wasn't being serious. He was obviously being sarcastic. But he was basically saying

This is an NBA player. His opinion is legit. I trust this more than what some egghead says.

Right?

Yees. But... and maybe im geting involved in something I really dont want to be involved in but.... isnt he agreeing with you?

Naw, he's not.

We were having a pretty long convo on this other thread where he basically said that stat heads were being ridiculous and using convoluted stats in trying to take a deeper look at Melo.

I countered by bringing up posting something by Haberstorh/Holling/Basketball Prospectus/Bill Simmons where they had a lot of good things to say about Melo, but also some not so great things. I also used Rich Cho as an example of a guy who looks at stats pretty in depth but is also respected enough as a basketball mind to become GM of the Thunder.

Cho has a law degree.

Maybe I misread it but I'm pretty sure what TMS said was said tongue in cheek.

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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10/27/2010  11:47 AM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
firefly wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
firefly wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
TMS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:THE DEAL THAT WON'T HAPPEN: MELO TO THE KNICKS
I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense, but that's fine. He's the second-best scorer in the league behind Kevin Durant. He wants to carry his team, he has the balls to be scary in the playoffs and, most importantly, he wants to win. Well, Denver knows this stuff, too, and that's why they aren't sending him anywhere. You can't get close to equal value for a guy like that. Oh, and will someone please relay this message to Chicago: You guys are crazy! If I'm the Bulls, I give up Noah and my first-born to get Melo. Noah is a nice player, but he's no Melo. Their hard-bargain makes zero sense.

pish posh... what does some NBA player know about judging basketball talent? i bet he doesn't even have a law degree! this guy obviously hasn't read the articles written by Tom Haberstroh & Bill Simmons.

Dude you sound like a 4th grader. Notice he said second-best SCORER in the league.

He also said "I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense"

It also definitely seems like he thinks KD is heads and shoulders above Melo.

This is an NBA player right? You were just insinuating above that he should know how to judge basketball talent right? What do you think about what he just said?

How come you're not all offended? Did you do this selective reading thing through your Melo glasses again and pay attention to the good stuff and ignore the bad?

Oh my GOD someone said something less than effusive about Melo. What is he talking about? That's ridiculous!

I'll wait for your response to this unless you're going to pretend I didn't just poop all over what you just posted and go off and talk about something else.

I'll quote Ronnie from Jersey Shore.

"Come at me bro"

BTW, I've said plenty good about Melo. So has Haberstroh, Hollinger and the BP guys. But anything less than "He is Larry Bird but better" and you get your panties all in a bunch.

Oh, you think TMS was being serious? Sweet.

He wasn't being serious. He was obviously being sarcastic. But he was basically saying

This is an NBA player. His opinion is legit. I trust this more than what some egghead says.

Right?

Yees. But... and maybe im geting involved in something I really dont want to be involved in but.... isnt he agreeing with you?

Naw, he's not.

We were having a pretty long convo on this other thread where he basically said that stat heads were being ridiculous and using convoluted stats in trying to take a deeper look at Melo.

I countered by bringing up posting something by Haberstorh/Holling/Basketball Prospectus/Bill Simmons where they had a lot of good things to say about Melo, but also some not so great things. I also used Rich Cho as an example of a guy who looks at stats pretty in depth but is also respected enough as a basketball mind to become GM of the Thunder.

Cho has a law degree.

Maybe I misread it but I'm pretty sure what TMS said was said tongue in cheek.

Nah, my bad. That'll learn me for stickin my nose in.

Rock on.

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10/27/2010  11:50 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2010  11:51 AM
firefly wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
firefly wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
firefly wrote:
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
TMS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:THE DEAL THAT WON'T HAPPEN: MELO TO THE KNICKS
I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense, but that's fine. He's the second-best scorer in the league behind Kevin Durant. He wants to carry his team, he has the balls to be scary in the playoffs and, most importantly, he wants to win. Well, Denver knows this stuff, too, and that's why they aren't sending him anywhere. You can't get close to equal value for a guy like that. Oh, and will someone please relay this message to Chicago: You guys are crazy! If I'm the Bulls, I give up Noah and my first-born to get Melo. Noah is a nice player, but he's no Melo. Their hard-bargain makes zero sense.

pish posh... what does some NBA player know about judging basketball talent? i bet he doesn't even have a law degree! this guy obviously hasn't read the articles written by Tom Haberstroh & Bill Simmons.

Dude you sound like a 4th grader. Notice he said second-best SCORER in the league.

He also said "I'm not sure Melo actually wants to play defense"

It also definitely seems like he thinks KD is heads and shoulders above Melo.

This is an NBA player right? You were just insinuating above that he should know how to judge basketball talent right? What do you think about what he just said?

How come you're not all offended? Did you do this selective reading thing through your Melo glasses again and pay attention to the good stuff and ignore the bad?

Oh my GOD someone said something less than effusive about Melo. What is he talking about? That's ridiculous!

I'll wait for your response to this unless you're going to pretend I didn't just poop all over what you just posted and go off and talk about something else.

I'll quote Ronnie from Jersey Shore.

"Come at me bro"

BTW, I've said plenty good about Melo. So has Haberstroh, Hollinger and the BP guys. But anything less than "He is Larry Bird but better" and you get your panties all in a bunch.

Oh, you think TMS was being serious? Sweet.

He wasn't being serious. He was obviously being sarcastic. But he was basically saying

This is an NBA player. His opinion is legit. I trust this more than what some egghead says.

Right?

Yees. But... and maybe im geting involved in something I really dont want to be involved in but.... isnt he agreeing with you?

Naw, he's not.

We were having a pretty long convo on this other thread where he basically said that stat heads were being ridiculous and using convoluted stats in trying to take a deeper look at Melo.

I countered by bringing up posting something by Haberstorh/Holling/Basketball Prospectus/Bill Simmons where they had a lot of good things to say about Melo, but also some not so great things. I also used Rich Cho as an example of a guy who looks at stats pretty in depth but is also respected enough as a basketball mind to become GM of the Thunder.

Cho has a law degree.

Maybe I misread it but I'm pretty sure what TMS said was said tongue in cheek.

Nah, my bad. That'll learn me for stickin my nose in.

Rock on.

Not at all. I'd like to think I try to have rational convos on this forum but I'm probably just another guy who will never change his opinion.

Let's Go Knicks!

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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