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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
10/25/2010 3:29 PM
You should stop trying so hard to repair your image with these multi million dollar commercials. The only thing that will do that is winning.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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AnubisADL
Posts: 27382 Alba Posts: 13 Joined: 6/29/2009 Member: #2771 USA |
10/25/2010 3:32 PM LAST EDITED: 10/25/2010 3:32 PM
TMS wrote:You should stop trying so hard to repair your image with these multi million dollar commercials. The only thing that will do that is winning. Nike is using this as free publicity. No one really cares that he left Cleveland except Cleveland. When Lebron is on ESPN highlights all will be forgotten. Just ask Kobe the sexual abuser. NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
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kam77
Posts: 27664 Alba Posts: 25 Joined: 3/17/2004 Member: #634 |
10/25/2010 3:37 PM
AnubisADL wrote: No one really cares that he left Cleveland except Cleveland.
NBA fans don't like seeing the script written in advance. So we hate. lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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Moonangie
Posts: 24766 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
10/25/2010 3:48 PM
That is a GREAT commercial. I'm not going to stop hatin' on LeDouche (at least not this season) but I retain a grudging respect for him, especially when it comes to his advertising. He's the best at it (from a creative & performance standpoint) and that's something I can't deny.
Wish he cared about the hoops "legacy thing" a bit more, but this ad is a terrific start at a PR rebuild. Thanks for posting it. |
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kam77
Posts: 27664 Alba Posts: 25 Joined: 3/17/2004 Member: #634 |
10/25/2010 3:51 PM
Moonangie wrote:That is a GREAT commercial. I'm not going to stop hatin' on LeDouche (at least not this season) but I retain a grudging respect for him, especially when it comes to his advertising. He's the best at it (from a creative & performance standpoint) and that's something I can't deny. Yeah umm.. LeBron didn't make the ad. Nike hired an ad agency to do it. lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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TymeLessKnicks
Posts: 21061 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 12/6/2005 Member: #1050 Sweden |
10/25/2010 4:03 PM
kam77 wrote:Moonangie wrote:That is a GREAT commercial. I'm not going to stop hatin' on LeDouche (at least not this season) but I retain a grudging respect for him, especially when it comes to his advertising. He's the best at it (from a creative & performance standpoint) and that's something I can't deny. +1 Had enough Melo?
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Moonangie
Posts: 24766 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
10/25/2010 4:05 PM LAST EDITED: 10/25/2010 4:09 PM
kam77 wrote:Moonangie wrote:That is a GREAT commercial. I'm not going to stop hatin' on LeDouche (at least not this season) but I retain a grudging respect for him, especially when it comes to his advertising. He's the best at it (from a creative & performance standpoint) and that's something I can't deny. Why be a condescending douche? Did I SAY Lebron made the ad? That he wrote it, directed it, did the AVID editing and handled the media buy? Don't be a schmuck. Lebron has always had way more input into the creative side of his advertising than a traditional star (I worked in the industry for a decade way back when). He also understands how to "perform" in front of the camera. It's not by accident that this commercial works. And it's not only due to the quality writing and art direction. It's due to his grasp of this visual communication form and his ability to use it to convey the message HE wants out there. Yes, professional communicators helped him. Just like composers, arrangers, lyricists and producers "help" pop stars create amazing songs. But without a star to perform them, they would be worth nothing. |
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kam77
Posts: 27664 Alba Posts: 25 Joined: 3/17/2004 Member: #634 |
10/25/2010 4:33 PM LAST EDITED: 10/25/2010 4:34 PM
You posted you respect his advertising. OK. You say he is the best at it.
By "it" you probably mean self-promotion. What part of "The Decision" did you respect the most? Which ad agency did LeBron hire to handle "The Decision"? lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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Papabear
Posts: 24373 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 3/31/2007 Member: #1414 |
10/25/2010 4:42 PM
Elite wrote: Papabear Says What should he do? There is nothing he can do. He messed up. He will never get back to where he was. With him Wade and Bosh winning a championship, there will always be a asterik next to it. He blew it! Sure he has a right to go to any team he wants to but not the way he did it. He misled people and made a game and mockery of it. Papabear
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Gymkata
Posts: 20677 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/7/2010 Member: #3169 |
10/25/2010 4:59 PM
From a technical aspect, the quality of that commercial is second-to-none. But here's the problem: he's playing the victim. He's putting the spotlight on the fan, asking us what we want him to be, setting it up like he's in a no-win situation and we are his tormentors.
No matter what he does we won't be happy because we're haters! The rub? The only thing he's a victim of is an entirely self-inflicted wound. "I can not say all the secrets."
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NYKBocker
Posts: 38414 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
10/25/2010 5:16 PM
Nice commercial. He basically blames everybody but himself. The only referrence he has that he is responsible is that he did it before. I guess back in HS.
It has been stated at length before. He is hated not because he left Cleveland. He is hated becasue of the manner that he went about doing it. |
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Moonangie
Posts: 24766 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
10/25/2010 6:32 PM LAST EDITED: 10/25/2010 6:34 PM
kam77 wrote:You posted you respect his advertising. OK. You say he is the best at it. Condescension comes easily to you. I certainly don't respect anything about "The Decision". It demonstrated a serious lack of understanding his own fan base and clearly was misguided. If what you mean to suggest is that one was all on Lebron, then point well-taken. Perhaps Lebron isn't as clever as I seemed to suggest. Still, the new "Rise" commercial is a gem, regardless of your commentary directed at me. What I think he is saying is "WTF do you fans want from me? Should I try to live up to your normative model for me, or should I just get to the business of winning championships?" I think he's saying that's what he's about, not any of the shyte we fans attributed to him. I don't think making an "Apology" commercial would be nearly as effective for him as this one will be. |
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TymeLessKnicks
Posts: 21061 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 12/6/2005 Member: #1050 Sweden |
10/25/2010 8:23 PM
Actually im not flattered by this commercial. What's so good about it? The slow motion layup?
Had enough Melo?
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kam77
Posts: 27664 Alba Posts: 25 Joined: 3/17/2004 Member: #634 |
10/25/2010 8:26 PM
Condescension? Shit... I'm a ****ing *******. Most had already realized this.
But i stand by my post that LeBron probably had nothing to do with the commercial. If he had an ounce of that kind of creativity to beign with, he would've come up with a better idea for his future. lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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Moonangie
Posts: 24766 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
10/25/2010 8:35 PM
From AdAge (10-25-2010): Doesn't mention Lebron's involvement in the creative, but I think he has to "ok" everything before the Creative Director signs off on the spot and sends it to a shoot. Anyway, he's a douchebag, but I really like the spot. He is basically telling all of us to "Go Phuck Ourselves", which takes some chutzpah. I still hope his new team goes down in flames. |
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kam77
Posts: 27664 Alba Posts: 25 Joined: 3/17/2004 Member: #634 |
10/25/2010 8:37 PM
Go phuck yourselves... but buy my shoes.
I hate that guy. lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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Nalod
Posts: 71204 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
10/25/2010 9:33 PM
Wow!
Spot plays like a presidential campaign promo. |
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ramtour420
Posts: 26284 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 3/19/2007 Member: #1388 Russian Federation |
10/25/2010 11:30 PM
All is forgotten. . .Long live LeDouche !!
Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
10/26/2010 12:11 AM LAST EDITED: 10/26/2010 12:11 AM
kam77 wrote:But i stand by my post that LeBron probably had nothing to do with the commercial. i doubt that... he's got a whole team of people in charge of repping his image & promoting his brand, & they all report to him... he definitely has some say in how his image is going to be marketed. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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