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Elite
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10/23/2010  10:41 AM
Walker, Rautins and Mason have all looked just awful.

Buike is exactly what this team is missing... a scorer off the bench...and a real 2g at that.. if he is as capable as people suggest

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10/23/2010  11:30 AM
Let stop fooling ourselves what the Knicks are really missing is another superstar. As soon as Amar'e leaves the floor the team looks terrible.
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10/23/2010  12:04 PM
I think Kelenna will help a lot. It's been a while since we've heard an update, which leads me to be it'll be a while.

We do look incredibly mediocre without Amare on the floor.

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10/23/2010  12:15 PM
I think he was the "stealth" asset in the trade, who we may not have gotten if he was not injured, but we have no control over his progress at this point, so I am not sweating out his return. My choice is to forget we have him. We don't even know how well he will play when he does come back, especially since the injury was worse than many expected it to be.

Hopefully he comes back earlier and better than expected, and we are pleasantly surprised, but it is not something I give much thought to.

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10/23/2010  12:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/23/2010  12:41 PM
Vmart wrote:Let stop fooling ourselves what the Knicks are really missing is another superstar. As soon as Amar'e leaves the floor the team looks terrible.

I agree 100%. Team would be nearly unwatchable without Amare. Now I see why they paid him all that money.

Waiting for Azubuike to save us?

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10/23/2010  2:42 PM
Paladin55 wrote:I think he was the "stealth" asset in the trade, who we may not have gotten if he was not injured, but we have no control over his progress at this point, so I am not sweating out his return. My choice is to forget we have him. We don't even know how well he will play when he does come back, especially since the injury was worse than many expected it to be.

Hopefully he comes back earlier and better than expected, and we are pleasantly surprised, but it is not something I give much thought to.

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10/23/2010  3:32 PM
The team needs a real SG... Ray Allen/JJ Reddick/Mike Miller would've went a long way. That said, there probably wasn't too much of a point in locking this roster in by sacrificing flexibility. Hopefully Buike can provide something
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10/23/2010  4:10 PM
So far the Lee trade hasn't looked as good lately as it did when we made it. Turiaf can't play with Amare. Randolph seems to have lost some of his explosiveness and Azubuike isn't in sight.
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10/23/2010  5:35 PM
Ira wrote:So far the Lee trade hasn't looked as good lately as it did when we made it. Turiaf can't play with Amare. Randolph seems to have lost some of his explosiveness and Azubuike isn't in sight.

The lee trade will never look bad. How could getting three players vs no players would ever be a bad trade? Lee would've walked for free. Similar to what all knick fans hope melo do next season.

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10/23/2010  9:29 PM
Vmart wrote:Let stop fooling ourselves what the Knicks are really missing is another superstar. As soon as Amar'e leaves the floor the team looks terrible.

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10/24/2010  12:18 AM
It would make diff to have another great 3pt shooter on the floor. If AZ can ever get back to form this season it would make our SL very well balanced and improve the 2nd unit. AZ and Gallo would keep the floor open for Amar'e making him impossible to guard. Sure we could use a Star but adding a 40% 3pt shooter would still do wonders for this team. AZ is a perfect role player for this style.
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10/24/2010  1:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/24/2010  1:28 AM
How do we even know what AZ is going to give us, if he was sucking it up and AR was the one injured we would looking at him as a savior We need to be patient, you guys have been watching to much youtube...bet you can post some nice highlights of duhon and make him look like nash
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10/24/2010  1:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/24/2010  1:36 AM
I'm watching the knicks raptors game, and you look at the score at the end of Q3, it was 83-69 Raptors on top. 69 points at the end of 3 quarters is not bad, the issue was again, our rebounding. Reggie Evans was killing us. Getting buike back would be helpful, but to me scoring/outside shooting is not the issue with this team. We lack rebounding the most, and we need a 3rd point guard behind felton/douglas.

And actually Walker is probably our best rebounding guard... I'd try to find him more minutes if possible.

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10/24/2010  1:47 AM
knicks1248 wrote:How do we even know what AZ is going to give us, if he was sucking it up and AR was the one injured we would looking at him as a savior We need to be patient, you guys have been watching to much youtube...bet you can post some nice highlights of duhon and make him look like nash

What we're saying is that AZ is a talented player. He's not a star, but he's got world class athletic ability. Hopefully he'll regain some of that, but his game isn't solely predicated on his athletic ability. He's a very efficient shooter from 3pt range, which is exactly what we need. Career he's 46% and 40% from 3pt range. That's what we need in a SG.

He can also get to the hole and finish strong. He's a strong defender and at least will hold his own. Now all of this is before the injury. Obviously we're all trying to see what kind of player he'll be in his return. I'm not expecting him to be great. If tho he can at least give us solid shooting it will help. It just seems that he's not likely to be ready anytime soon, so for now this is forward looking.

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10/24/2010  11:04 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/24/2010  11:04 AM
HOw do we miss A player that has yet to play?

Did we give up a SG to get him?

WE received him as damaged goods.

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10/24/2010  12:51 PM
Nalod wrote:HOw do we miss A player that has yet to play?

Did we give up a SG to get him?

WE received him as damaged goods.


Miss in that he was a possible candidate for the starting SG spot. He's the only true SG we have on the roster. He's got good size and strength for the position and his shooting is truly worthy of a starting SG. If he was fully recovered, I believe he would've easily won the starting SG spot and Mike would've been comfortable with Chandler off the bench. We know he was coming off injury just as Turiaf and AR were, which is why we got those guys.

AR and AZ won't be at 100% this year as in most cases it takes a full year to come all the way back from surgery. Still I think his skills would be a big plus for this team. We'll see down the line what he's able to give us this year if anything.

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10/24/2010  1:59 PM
Just that some posters were like "Starter material" wishful thinking all summer to the reality that is.

This along with the FACT that AR is not KG quite yet and Turiaf is Charles Oakley.

At the same time, Moz is already better than Will Purdue!

and is stock could be rising.

Im still excited about the season, but my expectations are lower than most.

I am excited to see the team thru the season, not just on paper!

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10/24/2010  3:03 PM
Nalod wrote:Just that some posters were like "Starter material" wishful thinking all summer to the reality that is.

This along with the FACT that AR is not KG quite yet and Turiaf is Charles Oakley.

At the same time, Moz is already better than Will Purdue!

and is stock could be rising.

Im still excited about the season, but my expectations are lower than most.

I am excited to see the team thru the season, not just on paper!


To be sure these guys have to do it on the court. I do think tho that the Pre Season has a certain mentality to it and guys KNOW that it's not the regular season. Some guys can focus regardless and others seem to be effected by it, in that they don't really take it as serious. I think Gallo will snap out of it and get it going and then people will be all excited again. AR is another guy that really could have a much better impact by making just simple energy plays and not worrying about his offensive game right now. Basically play like Jared Jeffries until his offensive game cathes up.

AZ is really a hope and prayer kind of thing. We just don't know what he's gonna be able to do yet. Until he's actually able to run and jump and bump with the team, it's all a mystery. I haven't read anything that suggests that he shouldn't be able to heal from this. Guys like Walker and Dejuan Blair have recovered from serious Knee issues and look to be playing just fine. I have HOPE that AZ can do the same thing. We'll see. Talent wise I am confident his game would enhance this roster a lot.

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10/25/2010  12:08 AM
blkexec wrote:
Ira wrote:So far the Lee trade hasn't looked as good lately as it did when we made it. Turiaf can't play with Amare. Randolph seems to have lost some of his explosiveness and Azubuike isn't in sight.

The lee trade will never look bad. How could getting three players vs no players would ever be a bad trade? Lee would've walked for free. Similar to what all knick fans hope melo do next season.

Thaaaaank yoooouu! There is no "Lee trade" He was on his way out the door.

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10/25/2010  10:37 AM
Sangfroid wrote:
blkexec wrote:
Ira wrote:So far the Lee trade hasn't looked as good lately as it did when we made it. Turiaf can't play with Amare. Randolph seems to have lost some of his explosiveness and Azubuike isn't in sight.

The lee trade will never look bad. How could getting three players vs no players would ever be a bad trade? Lee would've walked for free. Similar to what all knick fans hope melo do next season.

Thaaaaank yoooouu! There is no "Lee trade" He was on his way out the door.


This was a good trade just for the fact that we got 3 potentially solid role players on short, reasonable contracts. If AZ can turn into a starter or AR can become a star would only be a bonus.
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