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BRIGGS
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10/22/2010  10:32 AM
C Mosgov
F Stoudemire
F Gallo
G Chandler
G Felton
G/6th man Douglas
C Turriaf
F Randolph
G Fields
G Walker

Replacing Mason with fields?

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10/22/2010  10:57 AM
yea man... and I'm looking forward.

MDA will really need to push these guys on the boards.

I have defended MDA in the past because I do not think he has had talent or pieces that could win games but I believe now he does. The Knicks can win a lot of games if they can keep the rebounding numbers close. They dont have to win, but keep it close. If they are getting outrebounded 45-40 every night they will be ok. If they are getting outrebounded 50-38 everynight we are winning 35 games.

We have the best frontcourt player in the east, possibly the NBA right now.
We have a lot of size up front with Mos/Amare/Gallo.
We have a good heady PG who is a very solid defensive player.
We have a scorer/defender off the bench in Douglas who I think can be 6th man of the year. I think he will be MDA's new Barbosa, only with better defense.

I really think we have enough pieces to win.

I expect MDA to lean heavily on Amare to start, and I think you will see a LOT of Felton and Douglas together. That backcourt gives you a pair of extremely fast players who can handle. Douglas is an excellent scorer and both guys are high level defensive players who can guard bigger players.

I agree w/ Briggs starting line up:
Felton, Chandler, Gallo, Amare, Mosgov (who knew????)
But the bench remains unsolved. Obviously Douglas is first guard in and will probably play 30+ minutes a night between the backup PG (12 minutes or so) and playing off guard next to Felton (15-20 minutes ish).
After Douglas I would say Fields has beaten out Mason and Walker. Thats 7
That leaves the bigman off the bench. Turiaf hasnt put up good numbers but has played smart. He passes well, sets good picks/screens and defends well. Isnt a good rebounder. AR is obviously more talented but is having confidence issues and seems to be a bit retarded as well. Maybe both get time.

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10/22/2010  11:12 AM
I love the lineup. I think one thing that people are overlooking is Timo's passing ability. I love that he hits cutters with ease and always leading them to the basket. The guards has to start truting him in the P-n-R and pass him the damn ball when he rolls. He has great hands. He will catch it.
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10/22/2010  11:47 AM
fishmike wrote:yea man... and I'm looking forward.

MDA will really need to push these guys on the boards.

I have defended MDA in the past because I do not think he has had talent or pieces that could win games but I believe now he does. The Knicks can win a lot of games if they can keep the rebounding numbers close. They dont have to win, but keep it close. If they are getting outrebounded 45-40 every night they will be ok. If they are getting outrebounded 50-38 everynight we are winning 35 games.

We have the best frontcourt player in the east, possibly the NBA right now.
We have a lot of size up front with Mos/Amare/Gallo.
We have a good heady PG who is a very solid defensive player.
We have a scorer/defender off the bench in Douglas who I think can be 6th man of the year. I think he will be MDA's new Barbosa, only with better defense.

I really think we have enough pieces to win.

I expect MDA to lean heavily on Amare to start, and I think you will see a LOT of Felton and Douglas together. That backcourt gives you a pair of extremely fast players who can handle. Douglas is an excellent scorer and both guys are high level defensive players who can guard bigger players.

I agree w/ Briggs starting line up:
Felton, Chandler, Gallo, Amare, Mosgov (who knew????)
But the bench remains unsolved. Obviously Douglas is first guard in and will probably play 30+ minutes a night between the backup PG (12 minutes or so) and playing off guard next to Felton (15-20 minutes ish).
After Douglas I would say Fields has beaten out Mason and Walker. Thats 7
That leaves the bigman off the bench. Turiaf hasnt put up good numbers but has played smart. He passes well, sets good picks/screens and defends well. Isnt a good rebounder. AR is obviously more talented but is having confidence issues and seems to be a bit inexperience as well. Maybe both get time.

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10/22/2010  12:05 PM
In Order Of Appearance


G Felton, get rid of the black high tops with white socks. Go black on black or all white.
G Chandler (Bill Walker gaining confidence)
F Gallo (Landry Fields on the rise)
F Stoudemire (Knicks need another legit rebounder at the four spot)
C Mosgov (desperately need a third center)


G Sixth Man Douglas gets The Mayor for instant defense
G Fields gets Gallo, or vice versa once Fields steals the starting job in January
C Turiaf gets Mozgov
F Randolph gets in the weight room
G If Bill Walker keeps making his three's somebody gets bumped, or traded. Bulledat.

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fishmike
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10/22/2010  12:19 PM
rp wrote:
fishmike wrote:yea man... and I'm looking forward.

MDA will really need to push these guys on the boards.

I have defended MDA in the past because I do not think he has had talent or pieces that could win games but I believe now he does. The Knicks can win a lot of games if they can keep the rebounding numbers close. They dont have to win, but keep it close. If they are getting outrebounded 45-40 every night they will be ok. If they are getting outrebounded 50-38 everynight we are winning 35 games.

We have the best frontcourt player in the east, possibly the NBA right now.
We have a lot of size up front with Mos/Amare/Gallo.
We have a good heady PG who is a very solid defensive player.
We have a scorer/defender off the bench in Douglas who I think can be 6th man of the year. I think he will be MDA's new Barbosa, only with better defense.

I really think we have enough pieces to win.

I expect MDA to lean heavily on Amare to start, and I think you will see a LOT of Felton and Douglas together. That backcourt gives you a pair of extremely fast players who can handle. Douglas is an excellent scorer and both guys are high level defensive players who can guard bigger players.

I agree w/ Briggs starting line up:
Felton, Chandler, Gallo, Amare, Mosgov (who knew????)
But the bench remains unsolved. Obviously Douglas is first guard in and will probably play 30+ minutes a night between the backup PG (12 minutes or so) and playing off guard next to Felton (15-20 minutes ish).
After Douglas I would say Fields has beaten out Mason and Walker. Thats 7
That leaves the bigman off the bench. Turiaf hasnt put up good numbers but has played smart. He passes well, sets good picks/screens and defends well. Isnt a good rebounder. AR is obviously more talented but is having confidence issues and seems to be a bit inexperience as well. Maybe both get time.

FIXED...

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Definition of RETARDED
slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress

Not to start a PC debate but inexperienced isnt the word I was looking for. This is a 3rd year player and he is
1) playing like this is his first experience in the NBA
2) looking over at the side lines after every play like this is his first experience in the NBA

You can use any word you want for it, but find a better one that describes AR right now then this "slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress"

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10/22/2010  12:20 PM
^^ he's just not playing smart or cool
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10/22/2010  12:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/22/2010  12:35 PM
fishmike wrote:^^ he's just not playing smart or cool

Ok, lacking basketball knowledge

As for the topic, so I don't go off track. We need front court help . But I guess will put Will at 4 for small lineup.

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10/22/2010  12:40 PM
AR seems to have a low BB IQ and it's effecting his confidence. He gets into a situation and can't think his way thru it. You can see him thinking and then he does something stupid with the ball and you can tell he couldn't process things fast enough. What Mike tends to like to do is limit the amount of thinking the non PG's on the court have to do. That's why you benefit so much from a Nash or CP3 in this offense. You want guys like AR to just be ready to receive the pass in optimum scoring positions and either shoot, drive or dunk. It's a split second decision based on where he was led by his PG or the natural flow of the play.

AR needs things to be simple for him right now. Catch and shoot, roll catch and dunk, etc. When they give him the ball and he's on the perimeter and not sure what he should do next that needs to be avoided at all costs. He should be setting picks and rolling or making cuts to the basket. Send him in motion so that he can be that moving target that is always headed toward the basket. We'll see how that develops. If he had a strong post game or turnaround jumper... something along the lines of a what Amar'e can do, things would be easier for him, but he's not at that point yet. He's got the physical tools, but the technical skill isn't there yet.
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10/22/2010  12:50 PM
FisolaNYDN

D'Antoni hinting that Toney Douglas could be an opening night starter...probably as a two-guard.
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10/22/2010  12:55 PM
BRIGGS wrote:C Mosgov
F Stoudemire
F Gallo
G Chandler
G Felton
G/6th man Douglas
C Turriaf
F Randolph
G Fields
G Walker

Replacing Mason with fields?

Pretty much nailed it, although I think AR will be first off the bench for both the 4 & 5 spots until he proves he just can't regain his confidence. Turiaf will get rotation minutes even though he can't score because he is a cool guy and a team leader emotionally. If he can grab boards his minutes will go up. In fact, whoever starts dominating the boards will get more minutes as that is clearly a weakness for our team. We relied WAY too heavily on Lee's special skills. We need team rebounding and I think we have the players to do it.

TD will be 6th man of the year this year (if he doesn't replace Felton as the starting PG). Fields will be the X factor and the best 2nd round selection since...?

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10/22/2010  1:08 PM
crzymdups wrote:
FisolaNYDN

D'Antoni hinting that Toney Douglas could be an opening night starter...probably as a two-guard.

I don't get the thinking...we don't have a backup point...or even a backup guard.
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10/22/2010  1:33 PM
"F Randolph gets in the weight room" "(Knicks need another legit rebounder at the four spot)"
"AR is obviously more talented and seems to be a bit retarded as well. Maybe both get time."

I believe D'Antoni will not sit him and not give him playing time. Mike keeps people on the bench who aren't trying hard enough, or don't have enough talent to be able to help. I believe Randolph gets 15 ro 20 minutes a game as our backup power forward. AR clearly suffered greatly from being "benched" at Golden State. I think it would be counter productive for Mike to make AR sit. This 21 year player needs time to get comfortable in our system, and he will get it.
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10/22/2010  2:29 PM
nixluva wrote:He should be setting picks and rolling or making cuts to the basket. Send him in motion so that he can be that moving target that is always headed toward the basket.

Agreed in all counts, keep it simple and make him act like a big not outside shooter.

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10/22/2010  4:05 PM
not sure I like chandler starting at SG
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10/22/2010  5:13 PM
Anyone can guess a lineup in October, who besides The Answer Man Knows the lineup in February?


The February 24, 3 p.m. ET, Trade Deadline Shift Du Jour


G Felton, averaging 9 assists per game
G Fields, who steals the starting job in January, averaging 15 and 7 per game, Donnie Walnuts hailed as genius
F Carmelo, takes some of the weight off Amar'e's shoulders, the partnership has hints of Frazier and Monroe
F Stoudemire, smiling from ear to ear, averaging 28 points per game
C Mosgov, getting comfortable and making a strong push for Rookie of The Year


G Sixth Man Douglas do what he do
G Kelenna Azubuile, finally gets on the court and adds offense
C Turiaf, enjoying life to the fullest and making new friends courtside at MSG
F Bill Walker keeps making his three's

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10/22/2010  5:30 PM
misterearl wrote:Anyone can guess a lineup in October, who besides The Answer Man Knows the lineup in February?


The February 24, 3 p.m. ET, Trade Deadline Shift Du Jour


G Felton, averaging 9 assists per game
G Fields, who steals the starting job in January, averaging 15 and 7 per game, Donnie Walnuts hailed as genius
F Carmelo, takes some of the weight off Amar'e's shoulders, the partnership has hints of Frazier and Monroe
F Stoudemire, smiling from ear to ear, averaging 28 points per game
C Mosgov, getting comfortable and making a strong push for Rookie of The Year


G Sixth Man Douglas do what he do
G Kelenna Azubuile, finally gets on the court and adds offense
C Turiaf, enjoying life to the fullest and making new friends courtside at MSG
F Bill Walker keeps making his three's

Looks quite good, Answer Man. But I think Fields will get the starting job mainly because Wilson will be part of the deal for Melo.

It will be Curry's expiring, Gallo, Wilson, a pick, and $3mil for Melo. Waiting for the trade deadline gives ALL of the leverage to Melo. The only time the Nuggs have ANY leverage (and even this would be debatable) is right now before the season starts. They are blowing it by not making a deal now.
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10/22/2010  5:46 PM
Number 6

"Landry Fields continues to play better than his draft position would suggest. He was effective getting to the line where he converted 10/13 attempts. Fields is polished, competes hard and makes sound decisions with the ball. He was New York’s leading scorer with 19 points. He also added 4 boards with an assist and a steal."

Makes sound decisions with the ball

Rinse and repeat

"When Landry Fields is on the floor, good things happen" - Clyde

"He runs, shoots and finishes, and he has a great feel for the game overall. When considering talent plus fit, I think this may be the best overall draft selection of all 60 picks." - ESPN analyst David Thorpe

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10/23/2010  8:17 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/23/2010  8:18 AM
Last night it was:

5 - Mozgov
4 - Amar'e
3 - Chandler
2 - Fields
1 - Felton

to start and I liked it
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So I guess the line up as of now is?
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