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10/19/2010  11:47 PM
With our need for extra rebounding---I would put Landry Fields ahead of Mason in the rotation. I can have a ton of patience with Randolph and Gallo(becasue they will both do their thing eventually)and both deserve time to play through some rough patches.

Mason on the other hand as a veteran player showed a significant down turn in his shooting efficiency over a full year and through 5 full games has been even worse. I think I would much rather haev the size rebounding and defense of Fields who I feel has played his way on to a roster spot while Mason has done a very good job of playing himself out of one. Our rebounding differential is so bad right now--that this makes a lot of sense. We can afford to have a player going 15-20 minutes giving us nothing but poor shooting. I feel like fields will give the team much more.

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10/19/2010  11:57 PM
Sucked Fields was benched today..... I missed the game did they explain why he was?
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10/20/2010  12:14 AM
umynot wrote:Sucked Fields was benched today..... I missed the game did they explain why he was?

I think they were trying to settle on a set rotation.

Our problem is

A. Mosgov is not an NBA starter yet and would be much better suited coming off the bench
B. Mason should sit for Fields--in fact I think it's a no brainer
C Collectively this team is not getting it done in terms of rebounding. Whether they need to play some zone(which is a reasonable solution)or go out not the market place and find someone who can rebound--it has to be addressed. We need to address the starting 5 position and remove Mason for fields.

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10/20/2010  12:29 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
umynot wrote:Sucked Fields was benched today..... I missed the game did they explain why he was?

I think they were trying to settle on a set rotation.

Our problem is

A. Mosgov is not an NBA starter yet and would be much better suited coming off the bench
B. Mason should sit for Fields--in fact I think it's a no brainer
C Collectively this team is not getting it done in terms of rebounding. Whether they need to play some zone(which is a reasonable solution)or go out not the market place and find someone who can rebound--it has to be addressed. We need to address the starting 5 position and remove Mason for fields.

Setting a rotation with no Fields?.... That cant be right

We definitely need to rebound better for sure but the fact that we are getting blocks and steals gives us a few
extra possessions.

Dont get why you think we need a Center so bad?.... Moz is like having a good Rookie and is already better then Jeffries
and TMS's fav Hill..... Turiaf and AR gives us 3 Centers better then last year by far. With Amare Felton Will and Gallo
TD playing lights out Walker picking up were he left off last year .......

I say we need a pass fist back up PG and we are set

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10/20/2010  12:30 AM
I agree bout Mason he sucks!!
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10/20/2010  12:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/20/2010  12:34 AM
umynot wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
umynot wrote:Sucked Fields was benched today..... I missed the game did they explain why he was?

I think they were trying to settle on a set rotation.

Our problem is

A. Mosgov is not an NBA starter yet and would be much better suited coming off the bench
B. Mason should sit for Fields--in fact I think it's a no brainer
C Collectively this team is not getting it done in terms of rebounding. Whether they need to play some zone(which is a reasonable solution)or go out not the market place and find someone who can rebound--it has to be addressed. We need to address the starting 5 position and remove Mason for fields.

Setting a rotation with no Fields?.... That cant be right

We definitely need to rebound better for sure but the fact that we are getting blocks and steals gives us a few
extra possessions.

Dont get why you think we need a Center so bad?.... Moz is like having a good Rookie and is already better then Jeffries
and TMS's fav Hill..... Turiaf and AR gives us 3 Centers better then last year by far. With Amare Felton Will and Gallo
TD playing lights out Walker picking up were he left off last year .......

I say we need a pass fist back up PG and we are set

were not rebounding from the 5 position at all. I like Mosgov but I dont see him as a guy who can start and play 36 minutes against experienced nBA C's becasue they can put 2 fouls on him within 4 minutes. Its better for his progression to play with unit 2. He could be a very nice bench player who with time could turn into a very decent NBA C. But we are rushing that along.

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10/20/2010  12:42 AM
Briggs I think we should stop thinking like we need a CHAMPIONSHIP this year.(would be nice though)
Let the Young guy play..... Everyone is high on him.(Me Included).

's Team never lead the NBA in rebounds before...... And I believe from what I see
of this kid... When he figures it out he will be Windex on the glass!!

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10/21/2010  1:53 AM
If Mike D doesnt swap Fields for Mason--then we should have another Don nelson firing for the good of the team.
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10/21/2010  2:01 AM
Roger Mason 30 years old 18 mins, 4pts, 1-6, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 TO
Landry Fields 22 years old 26 mins, 15pts, 6-12, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 1TO

This is the norm it seems. Landry better get those minutes.

On a different note, If D'Antoni doesn't produce this year he is out.

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10/21/2010  7:08 AM
I'm not a fan of taking over spurs cast offs... malik rose wasn't that great either (though I guess he was a good locker room presence). Golden State castoffs tend to be pretty good though!! (latrell sprewell, jason richardson, gilbert arenas, stephen jackson, matt barnes, anthony morrow). Hopefully the 3 we got from them will also turn out to be productive players.
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10/21/2010  9:01 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/21/2010  10:10 AM
To me Fields is ahead of both Mason AND Bill Walker. Mason has been terrible and now Walker--I wasn't impressed with Walker at all last night against the 76ers...I mean did he have to launch all those 3s?? AWFUL. Outside of chucking 3s (2-4' behind the damn line no less , WT flyin' F was he doing??), Walker's really brought nothing else to the party recently--no rebounding, no defense etc. He's a good stand-still 3-pt shooter but Walker's really not that smart a basketball player..Only put it on the floor once that I can remember last night, drove into a crowd where Brand slapped it right back in his face with ease). Fields is far and away a superior player to both of these guys imo, in every aspect of the game, and brings so much more to the table -- smarts, better ball-handling, surprising athleticism, great going to the basket, better jumpshooter than you think, post moves, some rebounding, decent defense (although I wanna see him stay at home on his own man more out on the perimeter and stop cheating with this damn zone, esp. when drifting to another perimeter threat that's already covered---I know that's exactly what this zone D calls for and he's executing correctly but I don't like it--the entire concept is flawed and so easy to pick apart--guys get out of position way to easily and then scramble to recover & it's too damn easy for an opponent to get an open jumper after one or two passes)..

I was pissed Fields didn't get the ball more in the 2nd half in better position..Beside that incredible up & under baseline drive + the foul he hit on which was awesome, the few other times he did get it far from the hoop he had the presence of mind to move it quickly when it wasn't there---Walker would've looked to launch 30 footers right there )..But then he'd go down and establish good position on Iguodala, call for the ball and they just didn't get it to him. I would've liked to have seen what Landry could've done with Iggy guarding him one-on-one there but it never materialized.

Mike won't do it but Fields should start at the 2 and be on the floor with the 1st unit or at the very least see significant time behind Chandler & Gallinari at both the 2 & 3. He's a go-to offense player and will also help & have a positive impact in other areas--he's gotta play and they gotta put the ball in his hands more. The kid flat out makes good things happen..You can easily make the case that Fields is the 2nd best player on this roster right now..It's not as farfetched as it might sound, not based on what I've seen. We have to keep him out of any Melo trade. Dude's a keeper.
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10/21/2010  10:14 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/21/2010  10:15 AM
Mike won't do it but Fields should start at the 2 and be on the floor with the 1st unit or at the very least see significant time behind Chandler. He's a go-to offense player and will also help & have a positive impact in other areas--he's gotta play and they gotta put the ball in his hands more...You can easily make the case that Fields is the 2nd best player on this roster right now..It's not that farfetched. We have to keep him out of any Melo trade. Dude's a keeper.

Why is it every time one of our bench players play well, we wanna quickly insert them into the starting line up. If we do that, we will have a suspect bench that will lose leads or fail to make a come backs. It is important to have a potent bench, i suggest we leave TD, Fieds on the bench.

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10/21/2010  10:21 AM
There is a reason the Spurs dumped Mason.
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10/21/2010  12:02 PM
Roger Mason is a shooting specialist and he will shoot just fine with consistent minutes and open looks. Whether or not the team needs him on the floor while the rest of the team is healthy or if he will receive that consistent time is another matter.

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10/21/2010  1:32 PM
oohah wrote:Roger Mason is a shooting specialist and he will shoot just fine with consistent minutes and open looks. Whether or not the team needs him on the floor while the rest of the team is healthy or if he will receive that consistent time is another matter.

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unfortunately for Mason he has gotten consistent minutes and open looks and has done nada.

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10/21/2010  1:44 PM
oohah wrote:Roger Mason is a shooting specialist and he will shoot just fine with consistent minutes and open looks. Whether or not the team needs him on the floor while the rest of the team is healthy or if he will receive that consistent time is another matter.

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Sure he will hit open shots in games--at a clip of 35%--thats why SA got rid of him.

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10/21/2010  1:50 PM
Mason doesn't deserve any minutes, period. Right now I would easily give Rautins playing time over him even though he seems to be shooting very poorly. Fields has been a million times better. Fields should probably be our 8th man right now honestly.
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10/21/2010  1:54 PM
martin wrote:
oohah wrote:Roger Mason is a shooting specialist and he will shoot just fine with consistent minutes and open looks. Whether or not the team needs him on the floor while the rest of the team is healthy or if he will receive that consistent time is another matter.

oohah

unfortunately for Mason he has gotten consistent minutes and open looks and has done nada.

So now pre-season counts?

oohah

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10/21/2010  1:55 PM
I'm with Briggs. I like Mosgov a lot so far but almost every game we get dominated on the boards. I would play Amare at center despite what he wants and either start AR or go smaller and possibly start Douglas. I didn't think we would miss Lee's rebounding this bad.
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10/21/2010  1:58 PM
oohah wrote:
martin wrote:
oohah wrote:Roger Mason is a shooting specialist and he will shoot just fine with consistent minutes and open looks. Whether or not the team needs him on the floor while the rest of the team is healthy or if he will receive that consistent time is another matter.

oohah

unfortunately for Mason he has gotten consistent minutes and open looks and has done nada.

So now pre-season counts?

oohah


Things can change quickly in the reg. season but as of now he hasn't done anything good. Didnt he shoot like 33% from deep last year? So much for a 3pt specialist lol
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