BRIGGS wrote:Looked like a different player physically last night--Im sure teams will be looking at him cloesly. You never know what a knee injury can do--but he looked a LOT different.

Good or Bad? I did not see the game.

BRIGGS wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Looked like a different player physically last night--Im sure teams will be looking at him cloesly. You never know what a knee injury can do--but he looked a LOT different.

Good or Bad? I did not see the game.

Bad

I would think that NO had dome kind of positive prognosis or they would not have let Collison go...no?

Might take a year+ for him to get back to some kind of recognizable Chris Paul form, or maybe he will never reach that point again. If the latter, then NO has a guy who can't play like he once did, will not get them the assets (if they attempt to trade him) that a healthy Paul would command, and they no longer have Collison, who had a fine rookie season.

knicks1248 wrote:They lost by 56 points, and he still manage 10 ast and 2 TO's

Stat padding?

iSergio wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Looked like a different player physically last night--Im sure teams will be looking at him cloesly. You never know what a knee injury can do--but he looked a LOT different.

Why do you care? You wouldn't trade Anthony Randolph for a 100% healthy Chris Paul anyway.

He might be rusty and hesitant at this point, or there might be something more permanent that will keep him from being the kind of player he was before the injury.

His post-injury progress seems like a legitimate topic for discussion given the way people followed his situation in the off-season.

JohnWallace44 wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:I would rather draft a PG or trade for one that fits the offense, but not his current team like Flynn or Maynor.

Taylor, Shumpert, Fredette and Lee should be available for our usual draft pick purchase at the end of the 1st round.

you would rather draft or trade for guys like that over CP3? now i've heard everything.

TMS wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:I would rather draft a PG or trade for one that fits the offense, but not his current team like Flynn or Maynor.

Taylor, Shumpert, Fredette and Lee should be available for our usual draft pick purchase at the end of the 1st round.

you would rather draft or trade for guys like that over CP3? now i've heard everything.

The issue is the injury, of course.

You can't just say that a player is the same player he was pre-injury until you see how the injury affects his play. You can pile on the verbal superlatives or fill up a page with links to Chris Paul highlights, but those mean nothing if his injury has altered his game or makes it more likely that he will suffer future injuries because of it.

You have a vision of what Paul was, and what he could do as a player, but the reality may be quite different, and I don't see how Walsh or any GM trades major assets for Paul until they know the level he is capable of playing at, and whether or not he can hold up under the grind of a full season.

Seems like Paul might be on the market again, with the sale of the New Orleans team failing:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/10/09/2010-10-09_new_orleans_hornet_instability_could_bring_chris_paul_to_knicks_or_nets.html

Mitch Lawrence
New Orleans Hornet instability could bring Chris Paul to Knicks or Nets

Mitch Lawrence

Saturday, October 9th 2010, 1:51 PM
In a move that might hasten Chris Paul's possible move from New Orleans to New York or New Jersey, it appears Gary Chouest will not buy Hornets.
Rinaldi/Reuters

There's a whole lot of movin' and shakin' going on in New Orleans, Detroit and Golden State these days, involving their respective ownerships:

- In New Orleans, in what might accelerate Chris Paul's departure for New York or Newark/Brooklyn, but is not good news for the NBA, prospective incoming owner Gary Chouest apparently has decided to not buy the team from long-time owner George Shinn.

Last spring, Chouest, a local billionaire, reached an agreement in principle to buy out Shinn, the team's original owner. Chouest had purchased 25% of the team in 2007.

But according to a league official familiar with the Hornets' rocky ownership situation, the deal fell apart.

"Chouest didn't step up," the source said. "He's not going to buy the team from George. It looks as if George will have to hold onto it."

That's bleak news for Hornets fans, who were hopeful that Chouest would come in, spend money on talent, and get Paul to change his mind about leaving. But it's a great development for the Knicks and Nets and every other team that has its eye on Paul, who becomes a free agent in 2012 and has told associates that he wants to play in New York with Amar'e Stoudemire.

Of course, publicly, Paul continues to say all the right things about wanting to stay in New Orleans. But the franchise remains in a salary-shedding mode, and other than David West, he's not surrounded by a lot of big-time talent. Without Chouest's deep pockets, the prospect of Shinn putting in the kind of money it will take to bring in more talent for Paul is considered beyond remote.

Allanfan20 wrote:

TMS wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:I would rather draft a PG or trade for one that fits the offense, but not his current team like Flynn or Maynor.

Taylor, Shumpert, Fredette and Lee should be available for our usual draft pick purchase at the end of the 1st round.

you would rather draft or trade for guys like that over CP3? now i've heard everything.

Before that surgery, I gather I would want CP3 over all of those guys put together if we're talking about late first rounders. However, if this surgery diminished CP3 so much that his quickness (Which he relies on so much) is just gone, then we're talking about a whole new ball of wax. It probably isn't worth going after him if that's the case. It's something we'll have to wait and see on though.

I wouldn't say he relies on his quickness that much. He still has elite handles and court vision for a PG, and that'll last him a lifetime.

Personally, I'm not worried as much about his knee surgery cause he's still very young and I expect him to bounce back. I mean if he was 30 coming off an ACL, then yeah, big warning signs. I feel as Knick fans, we're just overly worried because of what we went through with McDyess and Houston, yet we did just give Amare Stoudemire $100M when he had ACL knee surgery 4 years ago. Plus, NOH's asking price may be lower if we jump in now, but as soon as/if he puts up pre-injury #'s again, and he gets put on the market, we're then competing with nearly every team in the league -- and unlike Carmelo, Paul has very little leverage in regards to destination. NOH will just take the best package.