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Elite
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10/6/2010  9:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/6/2010  9:59 PM
It's funny how after a game like today, people say "Gallo can only shoot 3s" like, its all he can do.

What actually makes the whole thing so frustrating is that, he can actually do way more than just shoot 3s.

I would make a bet that out of the last 100 times Gallo DECIDED to drive the ball, 85 times something positive happened.. If not more.

The guy has a knack for drawing fouls, a nice touch around the basket and a decent handle.

The problem is in his head, he thinks he's going to make every shot so he just settles. This is where leadership comes in, I really hope Amare or Felton get in his ear about taking it to the hole... It's just a decision Gallo has to make, it's not about ability it's just about mindset. This is where coaching and leadership really become crucial to team success...

Not going over board yet, but hopefully this issue is addressed cuz IMO its vital to our success.

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10/6/2010  10:11 PM
Danilo Gallinari doesn't drive much because he lacks the talent. He doesn't have the speed, the skill or the athleticism. It's not rocket science.
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10/6/2010  10:19 PM
iSergio wrote:Danilo Gallinari doesn't drive much because he lacks the talent. He doesn't have the speed, the skill or the athleticism. It's not rocket science.

Really? .... You must be like 14 right?

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10/6/2010  10:27 PM
iSergio wrote:Danilo Gallinari doesn't drive much because he lacks the talent. He doesn't have the speed, the skill or the athleticism. It's not rocket science.

He really is not athletic at all. As much as we want him to be Dirk he isn't. He settles for threes not because he thinks he is going to make it but he is actually looking for the easy way out. I can honestly say by watching him put up threes that he doesn't care about his fg% or anything that is relevant. He seems averse to rebounding as well, I can probably say that about the whole Knicks team.

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10/6/2010  10:39 PM
Vmart wrote:
iSergio wrote:Danilo Gallinari doesn't drive much because he lacks the talent. He doesn't have the speed, the skill or the athleticism. It's not rocket science.

He really is not athletic at all. As much as we want him to be Dirk he isn't. He settles for threes not because he thinks he is going to make it but he is actually looking for the easy way out. I can honestly say by watching him put up threes that he doesn't care about his fg% or anything that is relevant. He seems averse to rebounding as well, I can probably say that about the whole Knicks team.

GALLO through 2 preseason leads Knicks in rebounds... And is second leading scorer even after scoring 7 today

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10/6/2010  10:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/6/2010  10:40 PM
Dude in this offense, he's going to shatter the record for most 3pt attepms in a season, especially with Amare down low..get use to it, he take double digit attemps on a nightly basis, he is who he is.

If this was any other offense, you may get to see more of what he can do, but here with MDA, for-get-about-it.
You should also get use to AR, shooting way more jumpers then anything.

In order for this offense to run smooth no matter who's on the court, the PG play has to be top notch..
I expect melo here before thanks giving and curry to play respectable in denver, along with chandler and AR..Don't be surprise if JR is in the mix.

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10/6/2010  10:41 PM
Has played as good D as anyone on team so far.... Minny shot 40 % even playing mostly backups

We will see opinions as year progresses

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10/6/2010  10:43 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Dude in this offense, he's going to shatter the record for most 3pt attepms in a season, especially with Amare down low..get use to it, he take double digit attemps on a nightly basis, he is who he is.

If this was any other offense, you may get to see more of what he can do, but here with MDA, for-get-about-it.
You should also get use to AR, shooting way more jumpers then anything.

In order for this offense to run smooth no matter who's on the court, the PG play has to be top notch..
I expect melo here before thanks giving and curry to play respectable in denver, along with chandler and AR..Don't be surprise if JR is in the mix.

Chandler's stock is rising maybe enough for us to keep AR....... Cant see us trading him

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10/6/2010  10:44 PM
Elite wrote:It's funny how after a game like today, people say "Gallo can only shoot 3s" like, its all he can do.

What actually makes the whole thing so frustrating is that, he can actually do way more than just shoot 3s.

I would make a bet that out of the last 100 times Gallo DECIDED to drive the ball, 85 times something positive happened.. If not more.

The guy has a knack for drawing fouls, a nice touch around the basket and a decent handle.

The problem is in his head, he thinks he's going to make every shot so he just settles. This is where leadership comes in, I really hope Amare or Felton get in his ear about taking it to the hole... It's just a decision Gallo has to make, it's not about ability it's just about mindset. This is where coaching and leadership really become crucial to team success...

Not going over board yet, but hopefully this issue is addressed cuz IMO its vital to our success.

Danillo looked like he partied way into the night--he was drop dead tired--he wasnt into it. We have had VERY poor PG play for most of the two games and I don't think RT should be in the starting lineup. We can say we led 20-5 or whatever but the first 5 minutes doesnt tell the tale of their size versus ours.

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Elite wrote:It's funny how after a game like today, people say "Gallo can only shoot 3s" like, its all he can do.

What actually makes the whole thing so frustrating is that, he can actually do way more than just shoot 3s.

I would make a bet that out of the last 100 times Gallo DECIDED to drive the ball, 85 times something positive happened.. If not more.

The guy has a knack for drawing fouls, a nice touch around the basket and a decent handle.

The problem is in his head, he thinks he's going to make every shot so he just settles. This is where leadership comes in, I really hope Amare or Felton get in his ear about taking it to the hole... It's just a decision Gallo has to make, it's not about ability it's just about mindset. This is where coaching and leadership really become crucial to team success...

Not going over board yet, but hopefully this issue is addressed cuz IMO its vital to our success.

Danillo looked like he partied way into the night--he was drop dead tired--he wasnt into it. We have had VERY poor PG play for most of the two games and I don't think RT should be in the starting lineup. We can say we led 20-5 or whatever but the first 5 minutes doesnt tell the tale of their size versus ours.

We pulled our starters 7 minutes in...... Was like garbage time till second half.... And we started second half lazy
an unintersted and back to bench again....

Love played most of game.

Refs were way one sided ..... Proof in difference in FT's .... Last play b4 half Gallo got killed and no call.
Many non-calls .... Clyde was saying all night as well

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10/6/2010  10:55 PM
I want to see him drive more, and would like to see some of those post-up skills he was said to have worked on in the offseason, but a number of folks are getting a bit carried away with analyzing player performances after 2 games.

At some point, fans have to come down to earth and remember that this is basically a group of guys who are just getting to know each other, and that at this point, guys are not in game shape and they are not used to playing with each other.

By the way- one reason Mosguv looks so impressive is that he just came from playing in the Worlds, where he was getting regular minutes, but not enough to wear him out. He may be in the best game shape because he just finished playing a bunch of games and practicing with the Russians.

One other thing, and we can use some logic for the kiddies, here:

D'Antoni's system, which featured the PNR in Phoenix, needs 3 PT shooters to open the middle;

Knicks starting lineup, as presently constituted, has 1 player- Gallo- who shoots 3 pointers with any kind of consistency;

THEREFORE, a major role for Gallinari on this Knicks team will be _______________________________.

You guys can fill in the blank.

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10/6/2010  10:58 PM
Paladin55 wrote:I want to see him drive more, and would like to see some of those post-up skills he was said to have worked on in the offseason, but a number of folks are getting a bit carried away with analyzing player performances after 2 games.

At some point, fans have to come down to earth and remember that this is basically a group of guys who are just getting to know each other, and that at this point, guys are not in game shape and they are not used to playing with each other.

By the way- one reason Mosguv looks so impressive is that he just came from playing in the Worlds, where he was getting regular minutes, but not enough to wear him out. He may be in the best game shape because he just finished playing a bunch of games and practicing with the Russians.

One other thing, and we can use some logic for the kiddies, here:

D'Antoni's system, which featured the PNR in Phoenix, needs 3 PT shooters to open the middle;

Knicks starting lineup, as presently constituted, has 1 player- Gallo- who shoots 3 pointers with any kind of consistency;

THEREFORE, a major role for Gallinari on this Knicks team will be _______________________________.

You guys can fill in the blank.

Exactly ...... Chandler's stroke is looking better as well I noticed which is a need for us!

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10/6/2010  11:02 PM
iSergio wrote:Danilo Gallinari doesn't drive much because he lacks the talent. He doesn't have the speed, the skill or the athleticism. It's not rocket science.

Apparently it is, because your wrong!

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10/6/2010  11:11 PM
Paladin55 wrote:I want to see him drive more, and would like to see some of those post-up skills he was said to have worked on in the offseason, but a number of folks are getting a bit carried away with analyzing player performances after 2 games.

At some point, fans have to come down to earth and remember that this is basically a group of guys who are just getting to know each other, and that at this point, guys are not in game shape and they are not used to playing with each other.

By the way- one reason Mosguv looks so impressive is that he just came from playing in the Worlds, where he was getting regular minutes, but not enough to wear him out. He may be in the best game shape because he just finished playing a bunch of games and practicing with the Russians.

One other thing, and we can use some logic for the kiddies, here:

D'Antoni's system, which featured the PNR in Phoenix, needs 3 PT shooters to open the middle;

Knicks starting lineup, as presently constituted, has 1 player- Gallo- who shoots 3 pointers with any kind of consistency;

THEREFORE, a major role for Gallinari on this Knicks team will be _______________________________.

You guys can fill in the blank.

you make a good point, Gallo needs to keep the D honest with 3s.. I dont mind Kick-OUT 3s... but when the ball is being rotated around the perimiter and he jus throws them up... I dont get that.. either move the ball, run a pick and roll or pump fake and go to the basket!

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10/6/2010  11:16 PM
As a huge gallo fan, I was not happy with his performance, and actually, the whole teams performance for that matter.. but gallo is a guy we are going to have to rely on, and he needs to amp up his effort.. time for excuses are gone.. GAllo needs to come out with a chip on his shoulder, end of story.. New team, all the malcontents gone, time to step it up.. even in preseason..
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10/6/2010  11:17 PM
tkf wrote:As a huge gallo fan, I was not happy with his performance, and actually, the whole teams performance for that matter.. but gallo is a guy we are going to have to rely on, and he needs to amp up his effort.. time for excuses are gone.. GAllo needs to come out with a chip on his shoulder, end of story.. New team, all the malcontents gone, time to step it up.. even in preseason..

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10/6/2010  11:19 PM
How dare some of you speak unfavorably about the next Larry Bird.
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10/6/2010  11:20 PM
We just need Amare or Felton to be a captain and let Gallo know he can't settle. This is not a problem that can't be fixed through coaching and leadership!!!

Like i said this is not an ABILITY issue its a MENTALITY... Same with A-Randolph and his wild shot selection.. Just needs to be coached a bit

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10/7/2010  12:01 AM
Neither Gallinari or Amare are rookies, and we know that Amare has done infinitely more as a player that Gallinari, but if you had never seen Amare play before, and this was the first time you saw him, how would people have judged him as a player from the Minny game :4/11, 2 rebounds, 4 turnovers, and from what I saw, some very poor D? And the same can be said for Felton, who did not look so great this game.

Even if Gallinari never becomes the player some people think he will be, he's already established a level of performance that is somewhat predictable, and can make him a valuable piece to a good team. To think that he is going to perform like he did vs Minny in every game, seems kind of foolish.

If the Knicks are looking like this in mid-season, then I'll be very worried about this team, but it is simply too early and people are over analyzing, IMO.

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10/7/2010  12:10 AM
Paladin55 wrote:Neither Gallinari or Amare are rookies, and we know that Amare has done infinitely more as a player that Gallinari, but if you had never seen Amare play before, and this was the first time you saw him, how would people have judged him as a player from the Minny game :4/11, 2 rebounds, 4 turnovers, and from what I saw, some very poor D? And the same can be said for Felton, who did not look so great this game.

Even if Gallinari never becomes the player some people think he will be, he's already established a level of performance that is somewhat predictable, and can make him a valuable piece to a good team. To think that he is going to perform like he did vs Minny in every game, seems kind of foolish.

If the Knicks are looking like this in mid-season, then I'll be very worried about this team, but it is simply too early and people are over analyzing, IMO.

The main goal for the team in preseason is to find out who can crack the rotation and in this specific case start learning to play together.
Nobody was interested in winning this games. This is absolutely irrelevant.
I like what Mike is doing by playing prespective starters below 20 min. He really looking at all bunch to see what we can get.

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Gallo becoming a little frustrating

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