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How about Curry + a 2nd rounder for Dalembart?
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BRIGGS
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10/6/2010  8:11 PM
Both ending contracts and Sacramento would get significant savings and dont even need him.
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10/6/2010  8:16 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Both ending contracts and Sacramento would get significant savings and dont even need him.

I don't understand these moves. With the current lineup the Knicks have everyone is predicting playoffs and that is it. Is adding Dalembert going to take the Knicks to the next level? what is the difference 8th seed or the 7th seed.

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10/6/2010  8:19 PM
If this trade is available to us, you have to do it.
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10/6/2010  8:19 PM
I'd rather start Mozgov.
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10/6/2010  8:23 PM
Vmart wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Both ending contracts and Sacramento would get significant savings and dont even need him.

I don't understand these moves. With the current lineup the Knicks have everyone is predicting playoffs and that is it. Is adding Dalembert going to take the Knicks to the next level? what is the difference 8th seed or the 7th seed.

agree with ya.. not seeing how this helps too much

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BRIGGS
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10/6/2010  8:25 PM
Vmart wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Both ending contracts and Sacramento would get significant savings and dont even need him.

I don't understand these moves. With the current lineup the Knicks have everyone is predicting playoffs and that is it. Is adding Dalembert going to take the Knicks to the next level? what is the difference 8th seed or the 7th seed.

The C spot is very soft--its undersized and weak. We need to address it for now--its much more important than fishing for Rudy fernandez. if for some reason we had a deal for Melo--we still have the large ending contract. Right now Sacramento is overloaded at that spot and in the front-court + they are always looking to save money. Its a now move--a this yera move + gives us the flexibility to watch him for a year--possibly S+T keep etc...

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10/6/2010  8:27 PM
Probability of this deal happening in that current form is ZERO.
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10/6/2010  9:51 PM
There's a big difference in your flexibility once you go over the cap. We're just under it now.

There are better deals out there. We need better guard pla more than we need a center upgrade.

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10/6/2010  10:35 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Both ending contracts and Sacramento would get significant savings and dont even need him.

I don't understand these moves. With the current lineup the Knicks have everyone is predicting playoffs and that is it. Is adding Dalembert going to take the Knicks to the next level? what is the difference 8th seed or the 7th seed.

The C spot is very soft--its undersized and weak. We need to address it for now--its much more important than fishing for Rudy fernandez. if for some reason we had a deal for Melo--we still have the large ending contract. Right now Sacramento is overloaded at that spot and in the front-court + they are always looking to save money. Its a now move--a this yera move + gives us the flexibility to watch him for a year--possibly S+T keep etc...

Briggs you really think we are weak at C?..... Its a rebuilding year for us and we have a promising young center.
He needs work? Most def but he is a very promising prospect ...... He needs to learn to play with in the NBA rules
better for sure but everyone is raving how smart he is so I say in time he learns.

Then Turiaf I think is a very solid back up at C on any team..... If lakers could have him back I bet he would
start there till Dec.

Then you have AR who on most nights will get you boards he just needs to be in the paint more and off the wing.
Again for 21 y/o very promising player.... Amare can play minutes there as well.

I say play till trade deadline with what we have..... Then maybe look to add or subtract.

Dalembar taking minutes away from any of these guys other then turiaf would be a shame.

If you could do Turiaf straight up ok but not have both!!

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10/6/2010  10:39 PM
I think that would be a great trade for the Knicks. Dalembart was much maligned in Philly but he does a lot of good things on the court, can run and would help the Knicks in a lot of areas they are weak in.

Also, I like Mosgov but I don't think he gets more than 15 mins a game as a rookie.

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10/6/2010  10:41 PM
umynot wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Both ending contracts and Sacramento would get significant savings and dont even need him.

I don't understand these moves. With the current lineup the Knicks have everyone is predicting playoffs and that is it. Is adding Dalembert going to take the Knicks to the next level? what is the difference 8th seed or the 7th seed.

The C spot is very soft--its undersized and weak. We need to address it for now--its much more important than fishing for Rudy fernandez. if for some reason we had a deal for Melo--we still have the large ending contract. Right now Sacramento is overloaded at that spot and in the front-court + they are always looking to save money. Its a now move--a this yera move + gives us the flexibility to watch him for a year--possibly S+T keep etc...

Briggs you really think we are weak at C?..... Its a rebuilding year for us and we have a promising young center.
He needs work? Most def but he is a very promising prospect ...... He needs to learn to play with in the NBA rules
better for sure but everyone is raving how smart he is so I say in time he learns.

Then Turiaf I think is a very solid back up at C on any team..... If lakers could have him back I bet he would
start there till Dec.

Then you have AR who on most nights will get you boards he just needs to be in the paint more and off the wing.
Again for 21 y/o very promising player.... Amare can play minutes there as well.

I say play till trade deadline with what we have..... Then maybe look to add or subtract.

Dalembar taking minutes away from any of these guys other then turiaf would be a shame.

If you could do Turiaf straight up ok but not have both!!

Weve given away two seasons in a row. I knew rebounding was going to be an issue. Ronnie Turriaf is not an acceptable piece as a starter--I don't care if its two pre season games or 5 years in the NBA--first off he's on the wrong type of team--secondly he's not NBA starter material--so we can sit and think something is going to change or we can take 62-35 very seriously and the fact that AMARE looked much more like Udonis Haslem becasue his space was taken away. We need a guy who is either a much better garbage C guy(like Dalembart) or we find an offensive C who can rebound C--Barron lastly you can go 4-1---Its not likely we can get Dalembart but we can still get barron and we should look at some young rebounding guys in the nBA we can shift for our overload @ SF.

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10/6/2010  10:45 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
umynot wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Both ending contracts and Sacramento would get significant savings and dont even need him.

I don't understand these moves. With the current lineup the Knicks have everyone is predicting playoffs and that is it. Is adding Dalembert going to take the Knicks to the next level? what is the difference 8th seed or the 7th seed.

The C spot is very soft--its undersized and weak. We need to address it for now--its much more important than fishing for Rudy fernandez. if for some reason we had a deal for Melo--we still have the large ending contract. Right now Sacramento is overloaded at that spot and in the front-court + they are always looking to save money. Its a now move--a this yera move + gives us the flexibility to watch him for a year--possibly S+T keep etc...

Briggs you really think we are weak at C?..... Its a rebuilding year for us and we have a promising young center.
He needs work? Most def but he is a very promising prospect ...... He needs to learn to play with in the NBA rules
better for sure but everyone is raving how smart he is so I say in time he learns.

Then Turiaf I think is a very solid back up at C on any team..... If lakers could have him back I bet he would
start there till Dec.

Then you have AR who on most nights will get you boards he just needs to be in the paint more and off the wing.
Again for 21 y/o very promising player.... Amare can play minutes there as well.

I say play till trade deadline with what we have..... Then maybe look to add or subtract.

Dalembar taking minutes away from any of these guys other then turiaf would be a shame.

If you could do Turiaf straight up ok but not have both!!

Weve given away two seasons in a row. I knew rebounding was going to be an issue. Ronnie Turriaf is not an acceptable piece as a starter--I don't care if its two pre season games or 5 years in the NBA--first off he's on the wrong type of team--secondly he's not NBA starter material--so we can sit and think something is going to change or we can take 62-35 very seriously and the fact that AMARE looked much more like Udonis Haslem becasue his space was taken away. We need a guy who is either a much better garbage C guy(like Dalembart) or we find an offensive C who can rebound C--Barron lastly you can go 4-1---Its not likely we can get Dalembart but we can still get barron and we should look at some young rebounding guys in the nBA we can shift for our overload @ SF.

I just think adding a 4th center is not a need ..... Trade Turiaf and get someone like Petrovic from today would be nice!!

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BRIGGS
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10/6/2010  10:53 PM
umynot wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
umynot wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Vmart wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Both ending contracts and Sacramento would get significant savings and dont even need him.

I don't understand these moves. With the current lineup the Knicks have everyone is predicting playoffs and that is it. Is adding Dalembert going to take the Knicks to the next level? what is the difference 8th seed or the 7th seed.

The C spot is very soft--its undersized and weak. We need to address it for now--its much more important than fishing for Rudy fernandez. if for some reason we had a deal for Melo--we still have the large ending contract. Right now Sacramento is overloaded at that spot and in the front-court + they are always looking to save money. Its a now move--a this yera move + gives us the flexibility to watch him for a year--possibly S+T keep etc...

Briggs you really think we are weak at C?..... Its a rebuilding year for us and we have a promising young center.
He needs work? Most def but he is a very promising prospect ...... He needs to learn to play with in the NBA rules
better for sure but everyone is raving how smart he is so I say in time he learns.

Then Turiaf I think is a very solid back up at C on any team..... If lakers could have him back I bet he would
start there till Dec.

Then you have AR who on most nights will get you boards he just needs to be in the paint more and off the wing.
Again for 21 y/o very promising player.... Amare can play minutes there as well.

I say play till trade deadline with what we have..... Then maybe look to add or subtract.

Dalembar taking minutes away from any of these guys other then turiaf would be a shame.

If you could do Turiaf straight up ok but not have both!!

Weve given away two seasons in a row. I knew rebounding was going to be an issue. Ronnie Turriaf is not an acceptable piece as a starter--I don't care if its two pre season games or 5 years in the NBA--first off he's on the wrong type of team--secondly he's not NBA starter material--so we can sit and think something is going to change or we can take 62-35 very seriously and the fact that AMARE looked much more like Udonis Haslem becasue his space was taken away. We need a guy who is either a much better garbage C guy(like Dalembart) or we find an offensive C who can rebound C--Barron lastly you can go 4-1---Its not likely we can get Dalembart but we can still get barron and we should look at some young rebounding guys in the nBA we can shift for our overload @ SF.

I just think adding a 4th center is not a need ..... Trade Turiaf and get someone like Petrovic from today would be nice!!

He was a real C.

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10/6/2010  11:18 PM
We could use an enforcer type... it's probably too early to tell but Turiaf might not be as strong a rebounder as I'd hoped. Dalembert is more of a shot blocker/weak side defender I thought... which we have plenty of. We need a good rebounder, someone who takes up space on defensive rebounds and boxes out and can make the good outlet pass to start our break.
Rose is not the answer.
How about Curry + a 2nd rounder for Dalembart?

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