scoshin wrote:You've become a broken record

well its the truth

Let's stick with Gallo/AR for this season. When the season is over, NY could have $15 in cap space room. Then they can decide whether a SF with no D is needed (Melo) or maybe a real PG? Or maybe a C? Or two solid pieces for the bench? The point is, why sell out now by giving up on the young players? There is no need to right now.

I am all for letting Gallo and AR grow. They are 22 and 21 years old! I am guessing that when they are 24 and 25, they will be pretty darn good players and Melo will be hitting 30.

If Melo can be acquired for Curry and players who are not Gallo/AR or Douglas, then that is fine. Otherwise the price is too high.

I do think Melo is an impact player. The team needs another impact player. It also needs depth and a third option. So why not just defer the decision and the debate until the deadline, so we can see if we have legitimate second and third options already on the team, and not sacrifice any depth?

I do think more certain path is acquiring Melo, and the risk/reward play is keeping the youngins together.

The combination of talent that we have at the 3-4 spots is more than we need. The holes on this team are primarily the 2 guard and the backup point. If you could pull off a trade with Chandler or Walker and/or Fields for a better than average starting two guard, that would be the final piece to make us an impact team in the east. A backup point like Patty Mills should be able to be obtained for nothing.

knickstorrents wrote:Agree.... if we max a player like Melo, it would be hard to win it all... even if we get him for free. We need 2 way players at all positions. Now, Melo could be brought off the bench for scoring punch/4th quarter heroics on a championship team I feel.. but would he be down with that role? Let other teams max him and be doomed to get knocked off in the playoffs.

Carmelo Anthony - 26 year old 30 ppg scorer off the bench? LMAO!

Vmart wrote:If Chandler has a Rudy Gay type of year. You can bet the Knicks will fork over 80 mill for him next year. In a couple of years AR and Gallo will be up for contracts and if they are as good as you guys think they will be they will command big time contracts. Anyway you look at it the Knicks will be capped out very soon. What if Gallo and AR never become the big time players that we think they will be? Honestly guys if I can do Curry, Gallo and Douglas and picks for Melo I am all over this deal. I don't want to lose Chandler and AR I need them on the books if Melo is on the Knicks. Gallo to me is expendable as I don't see the upside that you guys see in him. Great 3 pt shooter but nothing that we can really get worked up on. Some negative points on Gallo. Slow, Lacks creativity in getting his own shot, Poor passer, so-so defensively, tends to camp out on the three point line. Not a great overall shooter but great three point shooter which tends to skew his percentage. Some positives on Gallo, plays with fire, great three point shooter, has length, average defensively.

I thoroughly disagree with your assessment of Gallo. IMO, he is pretty good defensively. He usually forces his player to make a tough shot. He gets blocks. He camps out because maybe that is what the coach wants him to do? Not a great shooter? MDA said he is the best shooter he has ever seen! He appears to be slow but usually can get to the basket and get his shot off.

I also think that Gallo has a quality to him that will push him to excel each year in the league. Last year was his first year effectively. He played much better the last 20 games. Let's see where he can take it this year.

I will agree that if he does not show more this year, than maybe he is not what some of us think he is but until then, I keep him, even if it means no Melo.

Bippity10 wrote:I agree with Briggs. I'm a huge fan of amare and Carmelo. I just don't see a core of carmelo, amare even a Paul and a bunch of scrubs as better then the Miami crew. The miami crew are better decision makers,smarter players and more talented. The knicks will need a strong TEAM in order to do that. In my view, without kevin durant, no other group of three amigos will be strong enough. It will take a team which will be difficult to build if we gut this one. Not impossible but difficult.

I think the success of miami will play into our hands. The more they are beating down opponents and the more they are loved by espn the more stars will want to play with other stars. If we somehow get carmelo here without gutting the team you can guarantee we will be a destination of choice. At that point its realistic to start talking possible future titles

You need STAR POWER to beat a team like Miami. Having 1 Star and 9 role players and you'll get swept and blown out. Tell me something, in the 4th quarter of a tight game, who exactly is going to take that shot with LeCon or Dwyane Wade all over them? Danilo Gallinari? LMAO! This is why we're going to fall short of 40 wins this season. We have nobody who can consistently score in the final 5 minutes. Amar'e Stoudemire is a beast but he needs someone to get him in the post. You need an elite perimeter scorer to win in this league. Gallo can't get his own shot off the dribble, he can't post up and that weak crossover isn't going to work on LeCon or Wade. And Chandler doesn't have the personality to be that guy either. And Randolph doesn't have the offensive talent, period.

Carmelo Anthony is a top 5 offensive player in the league and has proven he can and will score against LeCon and Wade. This is such a crazy discussion.

iSergio wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:Agree.... if we max a player like Melo, it would be hard to win it all... even if we get him for free. We need 2 way players at all positions. Now, Melo could be brought off the bench for scoring punch/4th quarter heroics on a championship team I feel.. but would he be down with that role? Let other teams max him and be doomed to get knocked off in the playoffs.

Carmelo Anthony - 26 year old 30 ppg scorer off the bench? LMAO!

The way he plays now; I'd rather have a guy who you knew was going to take shots in certain situations rather than guessing, but I wouldn't trade him for a bag of balls either.