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joec32033
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10/4/2010  6:05 AM
Now bear with me a second here.

Gallo did play some PG with his team in Europe correct? Here is my thing, he has that prototypical SG game (until he proves that his post up game is nice). He can pass, dribble, shoot. He would be a mismatch nightmare and seems to be better at defending the perimeter positions (1-3) than the post positions. He could play the position much the same as Hedo (who is 6-10) except with a little more scoring/sniping.

Not saying they will but if you can get Melo for something like:
Curry, Douglas, Walker, Buike, a first rounder next year(bye Wilson) a first rounder in 2014, the two GS picks and $ 3 mil....well...

Felton
Gallo
Melo
Amare
Randolph/The Moz

This is not another Melo thread and I know that type of trade is unlikely so I want to focus more on Gallo at the 2. At first I was real skeptical about it but the idea just is growing on me.

2's have morphed into those Danny Granger type hybrids so I really don't think it is too much of a stretch.

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10/4/2010  7:33 AM
he can certainly play it on offense. Dont want him chasing around opposing SGs though
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10/4/2010  7:33 AM
That would be best case scenario for us. Gallo would be able to play the 2 just fine.
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10/4/2010  7:50 AM
The MDA way has many variations for many players.

Can he dish and swish? LIke to see more post and toast myself!

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10/4/2010  7:58 AM
joec32033 wrote:Now bear with me a second here.

Gallo did play some PG with his team in Europe correct? Here is my thing, he has that prototypical SG game (until he proves that his post up game is nice). He can pass, dribble, shoot. He would be a mismatch nightmare and seems to be better at defending the perimeter positions (1-3) than the post positions. He could play the position much the same as Hedo (who is 6-10) except with a little more scoring/sniping.

Not saying they will but if you can get Melo for something like:
Curry, Douglas, Walker, Buike, a first rounder next year(bye Wilson) a first rounder in 2014, the two GS picks and $ 3 mil....well...

Felton
Gallo
Melo
Amare
Randolph/The Moz

This is not another Melo thread and I know that type of trade is unlikely so I want to focus more on Gallo at the 2. At first I was real skeptical about it but the idea just is growing on me.

2's have morphed into those Danny Granger type hybrids so I really don't think it is too much of a stretch.

thats so much!!!! Ill be honest--if Carmelo Anthony wants 25mm I dont want him for free. I think we have a 20 pt wing scorer--I think were going to score our points--its not a position of need. Id rather take a wait and see approach and do nothing.

Just think about this trade for one minute

you want to give up free agency next year 2#1s Buke Chandler for a guy who plays the same position as Gallo? I think Gallo has a very good chance of BEING BETTER THAN CARMELO ANTHONY BY HIMSELF very quickly here--look at our team--the position of need is starting 5. We have all other horses minus future replacements of a shooter for Mason(which is not a big deal0 and PG depth) It is POSSIBLE buke is that guy for the back up 2 G and we could probably keep him on the cheap as well. With Thabeet in their line up and the fact that they paid gay--Id rather keep my assets open for a potential S+T deal with memphis if we have to give up a pick or 2.

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10/4/2010  8:10 AM
briggs, i think you're making a lot of sense here. the more we let this play out and watch these guys play together as a unit, the more i think we don't need the scoring that melo brings. i really think gallo is going to be a special player and that he develops into that goto guy that melo is. now what are the chances he's ever AS GOOD as melo? i'm not sure about that, but he will be good enough where we don't need to throw all our FA money at melo this offseason and can choose to spend the money on other holes.
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10/4/2010  8:41 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
joec32033 wrote:Now bear with me a second here.

Gallo did play some PG with his team in Europe correct? Here is my thing, he has that prototypical SG game (until he proves that his post up game is nice). He can pass, dribble, shoot. He would be a mismatch nightmare and seems to be better at defending the perimeter positions (1-3) than the post positions. He could play the position much the same as Hedo (who is 6-10) except with a little more scoring/sniping.

Not saying they will but if you can get Melo for something like:
Curry, Douglas, Walker, Buike, a first rounder next year(bye Wilson) a first rounder in 2014, the two GS picks and $ 3 mil....well...

Felton
Gallo
Melo
Amare
Randolph/The Moz

This is not another Melo thread and I know that type of trade is unlikely so I want to focus more on Gallo at the 2. At first I was real skeptical about it but the idea just is growing on me.

2's have morphed into those Danny Granger type hybrids so I really don't think it is too much of a stretch.

thats so much!!!! Ill be honest--if Carmelo Anthony wants 25mm I dont want him for free. I think we have a 20 pt wing scorer--I think were going to score our points--its not a position of need. Id rather take a wait and see approach and do nothing.

Just think about this trade for one minute

you want to give up free agency next year 2#1s Buke Chandler for a guy who plays the same position as Gallo? I think Gallo has a very good chance of BEING BETTER THAN CARMELO ANTHONY BY HIMSELF very quickly here--look at our team--the position of need is starting 5. We have all other horses minus future replacements of a shooter for Mason(which is not a big deal0 and PG depth) It is POSSIBLE buke is that guy for the back up 2 G and we could probably keep him on the cheap as well. With Thabeet in their line up and the fact that they paid gay--Id rather keep my assets open for a potential S+T deal with memphis if we have to give up a pick or 2.

Getting Carmelo for that package is peanuts. Chandler is gone after this year. He is not a SG and Gallo is simply better, imo. Walker is kinda eh...Douglas would be tough but the payoff is too big. And Buke, well...you realize he is a FA at he end of the year? Resigning him and Chandler will compromise out FA anyway.

Seriously I view it as Douglas and a bunch of picks and money for a guy we are gonna sign anyway since we have to renounce the FA's at the end of the year (Wil, Azu, Walker) to get Melo anyway.

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10/4/2010  9:03 AM
nyk4ever wrote: now what are the chances he's ever AS GOOD as melo? i'm not sure about that, but he will be good enough where we don't need to throw all our FA money at melo this offseason and can choose to spend the money on other holes.

Exactly! It just dont matter if Gallo can be a 30ppg scorer on this team. He will be ready at the end of games as he already has shown last year. Until then you are guaranteed 25+ points from STAT.

But the most important thing is: We are flexible to add players that fill a need right now. That ends the moment you spend a second Max contract on Melo.

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10/4/2010  9:18 AM
Wilson Chandler is more a sg than Gallo. Chandler atleast has the ability to slash to the basket and cover opposing sgs. Gallo just stands out there at the three point line and jacks up threes. Yesterday against an inferior opponent he shot 5-11 from three point range. Whats he going to do when his shot isn't falling. He doesn't create well for others. He doesn't put the ball on the floor and create his own shot. Gallo has to bring more to the game than just putting threes up. SG is a very creative position its a multifunctional position that is a position you can't get away with if your game is just jacking up threes. I find Gallo to be very slow he may just be the most nonathletic player the Knicks have. He isn't going to be very consistent player in the NBA if his game is just jacking threes up.
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10/4/2010  9:21 AM
I really hope Kelenna Azubuike comes back healthy. He's a true SG and a baller.
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10/4/2010  9:28 AM
That brings up an interesting point about MDA's system. On offense, I don't think any player has a real position per se (well, except maybe the point guard). It is a motion offense predicated on reading what the defense is doing, and cutting and passing. People have their spots, but they could care less who is guarding them. So on offense, anyone can play the 2. It's not a big deal.

On defense though, Gallo would get his ankles broken by most opposing two guards. He'd be running around all game trying to defend. If the Knicks go zone on defense, I guess it's ok... but SG's are supposed to be able to shoot so I'd only do it against poor perimeter teams.

As for the whole Melo opportunity cost thing, I agree with you Briggs. Even signing him as an FA doesn't really appeal to me, unless we can get him for Lebron prices (less than 20mm starting). And even then, it sorta sucks because we lose flexibility on resigning our own players who might turn out better, and signing FA's that fill a better need. Signing a FA for max prices that isn't worth the max would prevent any team from getting a championship, not just the Knicks. Check the championship caliber teams and tell me if they have any max players that are not worth their money.

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Gallo at the 2

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