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AnubisADL
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9/30/2010  10:04 AM
FAIRFAX, Va. — Washington Wizards majority owner Ted Leonsis told local business leaders Wednesday that he expects the NBA soon will have a hard salary cap similar to the NHL's model.
NBA commissioner David Stern said that's not necessarily true — and warned Leonsis could be punished for discussing private league business. The NBA later announced it had fined Leonsis $100,000 for "unauthorized public comments regarding the league's collective bargaining negotiations."

"We're negotiating and that was one of our negotiating points," Stern told The Associated Press before the fine was announced, "but collective bargaining is a negotiating process, and that was not something that Ted was authorized to say and he will be dealt with for that lapse in judgment."

Leonsis, who also owns the Washington Capitals, spoke to a group of Northern Virginia business leaders before the Wizards' daily training camp session. He told them that the more fans a team has, the more they spend on the team, the more the team has a chance to acquire and keep good players.

"In a salary-cap era — and soon a hard salary cap in the NBA like it's in the NHL — if everyone can pay the same amount to the same amount of players, its the small nuanced differences that matter," he said.

Asked after the speech to clarify his remarks, Leonsis pulled back from the comment, saying he was not authorized to speak about the ongoing NBA labor negotiations, but said he felt the NHL's system "is a good one."

"It's working," he said. "The teams are very, very competitive. There is no way that big markets teams can outspend small market teams. So when the season starts everyone thinks their team can compete for the Stanley Cup."

NBA teams currently can exceed the salary cap if they are willing to pay a luxury tax penalty. The league's proposal to the union for a new collective bargaining agreement to replace the one that expires next summer included elements of a hard cap, and the players rejected it during last season's All-Star break.

"There's a hard cap in the NFL, there's a hard cap in the NHL, and that was something that was part of our initial proposal," Stern said. "But we're open to a deal and it depends what the deal is."

AP Basketball Writer Brian Mahoney in New York and Freelance writer Ben Standig contributed to this report.

Soucre: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gJ3IAKXmKswnD5dX4Zi563W4CbaQD9IHTH880?docId=D9IHTH880

What's funny is they would have to revamp alot of other things. They'd have to get rid of rookie scale contracts. Plus remove trading restrictions. Remove salary restrictions.

The funny thing is this would just hurt small market teams. You would have star players taking less and going to major markets where they can make advertising dollars. Or you would have star players in small markets making an INSANE amount of cash.

I dont see hardcaps happening anytime soon.

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9/30/2010  10:28 AM
Welcome to the world of 15-year contracts fellas.

You're right though. They would have to revamp the entire system. Look at some of the things the NFL and NHL need to allow to make it work:

-Non garaunteed contracts.
-Huge signing bonuses.
-I think in both the NHL and NFL, cut players salaries are only on the cap at a prorated rate for the season they are cut and come off the next year.
-Keeping the rookie pay scale is a must. The NFL showed how rookie salaries are crazy without some type of reestriction and even the players don't like it.
-Contracts for stars that may routinely be 7 or 8 years long.
-They would need to figure out how to implement this too. Just when we go through all heck to cut salary, implimenting this would almost require teams to be able to cut contracts without them staying on your cap.
-No more MLE

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9/30/2010  10:33 AM

What is happeing in the NHL is there are few stars now. SOme great players but not household names. NFL has a hard cap and parity is the game. A team can go from worst to first in the NFL inside of two years. LIkewise the NBA is dominated by just a few teams that have won most of the championships.

You would see more trades and player movement.

In the NFL you got guys moving because of cap. GOod players sliding to other teams because they have money their old team does not.

The real benefit is you can also have NFL style contracts with less guarantees. No more EDDY type of deals that handicap a team. Players in return get big upfront money with like first 3 or 4 years of 7 guaranteed. I like that.

And having more teams going to finals is not so terrible. Maybe keeps fan interest. Having tons of money never helped the knicks. An Charlotte-Oklahoma final is not a network dream, but its good for the long term health of the league. YOur build legacy. MOst of you guys became fans in the 1990's when the team was relevant.

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9/30/2010  11:01 AM
joec32033 wrote:Welcome to the world of 15-year contracts fellas.

You're right though. They would have to revamp the entire system. Look at some of the things the NFL and NHL need to allow to make it work:

-Non garaunteed contracts.
-Huge signing bonuses.
-I think in both the NHL and NFL, cut players salaries are only on the cap at a prorated rate for the season they are cut and come off the next year.
-Keeping the rookie pay scale is a must. The NFL showed how rookie salaries are crazy without some type of reestriction and even the players don't like it.
-Contracts for stars that may routinely be 7 or 8 years long.
-They would need to figure out how to implement this too. Just when we go through all heck to cut salary, implimenting this would almost require teams to be able to cut contracts without them staying on your cap.
-No more MLE

In order to get a hard cap the owners are going to have to concede to somethings as well. The rookie scale will need to be eliminated or revamped. No way you got super talented guys making peanuts on a NON-guaranteed deal for 5 years.

The NFL has too many players and more risk of serious injury. The NHL doesn't make as much money as the NBA.

I dont see a hard cap though. A miami situation could still happen but they'd be surrounded my minimum level contracts(aka old vets looking for a ring).

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9/30/2010  12:19 PM
no one is questioning the premise that you need to enable small market teams to be competitive with big market teams.

Sorry, but shouldn't that be the opposite of what the NBA tries to do? NY probably has more fans in more places than any other region. Isn't it better to have a good, championship caliber team in your biggest market, and if possible, every year?

I guess Stern can't wait for another ratings for a finals like Spurs vs. Cavaliers. Anyone excited by the prospect of watching a finals match up of the Wizards and Utah? They might as well not play the games and instead decide the series with a coin toss- they'd get more viewers that way!

Better teams in bigger markets can generate more revenue for all the teams than parity.

And you look at baseball and there are plenty of small market teams that put together competitive teams, and the opposite (see NY Mets ).

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9/30/2010  1:31 PM
I think the biggest problem in the NBA is the guaranteed contract. There are definitely other issues but just look at H20, Jerome James, and ECurry for example. If you get hurt thats what insurance is for - why should the club take a cap hit and a roster spot hit for the rest of the contract? Cut them loose and settle it.

Sure there are tons of other problems but I think that is the biggest one.

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