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djsunyc
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1/19/2004  9:52 PM
it's pretty evident that moochie is starbury's sole backup. wilkens is using frank VERY sparingly and at the backup SG at that. i'm thinking isiah told wilkens that moochie is the backup and he's trying to move frank. i'm a little confused tho b/c frank really has played well as the starting PG and i'm not sure why he's been demoted.

does anyone have any ideas?

is isiah trying to trade him and not put him out there to prevent further injury to his groin? or did he do something in practice to fall out of favor with wilkens? to go from 3rd string, to earning his way to starter, back to 3rd string is VERY weird. and he was starting under isiah so i'm at a loss...
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1/19/2004  10:22 PM
This is my thinking....Moochie is a big time energy player that is going 110% in practice and in the game all the time. FWill is a player that looks like he is going at 75% speed in the game even though very effective doing so. Since Lenny isn't too versed on most of the Knicks subs, he is playing the guys that are practicing the hardest and the best...so he tabs Moochie.

Now...after watching the Toronto game I think Lenny will soon come to his senses and figure out that the Knicks are much better off with Williams in. Moochie is just too much of an offensive liability with his lack of an outside shot. I hope to see Frank playing again soon.

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1/19/2004  10:36 PM
Andrew

I hope u r correct
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1/19/2004  11:51 PM
moochie was awful today
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1/20/2004  12:13 AM
Whether Moochie was bad or not is unimportant becuae he is the backup and Frank willo be traded.

I say send Frank Williams and Shandon Anderson to Cleveland for Darius Miles, Ira Newble, and JR Brewer. Anderson is a smart fit for Cleveland because he is a defense player who can score and is a veteran presence. And F Williams will start for them for years.

Then send Dikembe Mutombo and the Trybanski to Minnesota for Olowakandi and Oliver Miller. Mutombo is a much better playoff player for Minn than Olowakandi.

Then send Darius Miles, Olowakandi, and Oliver Miller to Atlanta for Theo Ratliff. Atlanta gets two young developing players, NY gets an athletic big man to finish on the break for Marbury to pass to.

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K Thomas O Harrington M Sweetney
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1/20/2004  12:17 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:

moochie was awful today
moochie is awful, period
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1/20/2004  12:20 AM
Andrew, I pray that you are right too!
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1/20/2004  1:01 AM
I wonder if part of the reason he's not playing is that he's still hurting from his strained groin injury from a few weeks ago.

I get flashes of Chris Childs (on offense) with Moochie running the team. Very helter skelter. Very soon Hardaway will be the backup PG.
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1/20/2004  1:29 AM
Posted by technomaster:

I wonder if part of the reason he's not playing is that he's still hurting from his strained groin injury from a few weeks ago.

I get flashes of Chris Childs (on offense) with Moochie running the team. Very helter skelter. Very soon Hardaway will be the backup PG.
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1/20/2004  5:34 PM
Posted by technomaster:

I wonder if part of the reason he's not playing is that he's still hurting from his strained groin injury from a few weeks ago.

I get flashes of Chris Childs (on offense) with Moochie running the team. Very helter skelter. Very soon Hardaway will be the backup PG.

No way i want Penny bring the ball up.

Penny is a back up shooting guard at best.His D is lack.Play Anderson
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1/20/2004  8:35 PM
Penny legs are shot he running around on borrowed time, he won't last the season. Notice how he always almost loses his balance on certain moves. You can call him nickel. If the knicks trade Frank, they better trade him to a western team or Zeke will have to deal with him later.
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1/20/2004  8:40 PM
If Isiah was going to try and move Frank, do you think that he would want to play him and increase his trade value, or not?
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1/20/2004  8:44 PM
H.Davis, With Zeke you never know, remember he like to make unorthodox moves.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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