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BRIGGS
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9/14/2010  10:16 PM
Im going to say the best way for the Knicks to play is go deep --as in 9/1- deep. Its important NOT to ride Amare into the ground as we are in to him for 20mm for 5 years running--he should get the tim Duncan treatment 33-34 min max.

Im going 10 with a 5 man energy unit off the bench

C/F-Amare-34
F Randolph-34
F Gallo-34
G Chandler-34
G Felton-34
C Mosgov-14
F-Fields 14
F-Walker 14
G/F Azubuke(until he heals) 14
G Douglas 14

I could cut the rotation to 9 or even 8 if some guys do not step up + play well or if Azu is healed 100%

Im going with Mosgov over Turriaf. Walker has to play like he did end of last year--I hope that what we saw in the SL was just an adjustment to his body loss but giving him the benefit of the doubt as he was stroking well from 3 last year. Im penciling in fields over mason because of the D and his rebounding--but he has to ptove it in camp to gett hose minutes.

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9/14/2010  10:47 PM
I think Mike will start off with a tight rotation, cuz it only makes sense. No one is gonna get burned out early in the year. Also the benefits of a short rotation are clear. You have your best players playing more minutes, which of course is a plus, chemistry is improved as well. Now over time you can start to expand the rotation. So early I see at 9 man as the most that Mike will go to regularly.

Amare, Felton, Gallo, Chan, Turiaf
AR, TD, AZ/Mason Mosgov

I think AZ is a ? since we don't know when he's gonna be at full strength, but if he does get to full strength he'll likely push Mason back to spot minutes along with Walker. I don't expect to see a lot of Fields, at least not early on. There will always be long road trips and back to backs that will cause Mike to extend his rotation, but overall I think 9 is about it.

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9/14/2010  11:22 PM
I don't expect to see Field much in the beginning either, unless he really blows up from the start, which I am not sure will happen. The same could go to Mozgov. If Turiaf is healthy, he's going to get minutes, whether it's as a starter or a backup.

C- Stoudemire
PF- Randolph
SF- Gallinari
SG- Chandler
PG- Felton

Douglas, Mason, Mosgov and Turiaf makes sense to start in terms of the backups.

If Azu is healthy, that's a whole new ball of wax. He could actually start ahead of Chandler and you can probably forget about either or both Mozgov and/or Mason. If he's unhealthy and Mason sucks, then Fields may actually get playing time from the get go.

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9/14/2010  11:44 PM
C - Turiaf 15 mpg
PF - Amare
SF - Gallinari
SG - Wilson
PG - Felton
6 - Randolph
7 - Douglas
8 - Mozgov
9 - Mason or Walker
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9/14/2010  11:55 PM
TMS wrote:C - Turiaf 15 mpg
PF - Amare
SF - Gallinari
SG - Wilson
PG - Felton
6 - Randolph
7 - Douglas
8 - Mozgov
9 - Mason or Walker

Yep this is what i was thinking too, except Randolph starting at PF, and Turiaf off the bench, sharing the minutes about evenly with Mozgov, at first. After a few games Tim will likely play more than Turiaf.

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9/14/2010  11:58 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:I don't expect to see Field much in the beginning either, unless he really blows up from the start, which I am not sure will happen. The same could go to Mozgov. If Turiaf is healthy, he's going to get minutes, whether it's as a starter or a backup.

C- Stoudemire
PF- Randolph
SF- Gallinari
SG- Chandler
PG- Felton

Douglas, Mason, Mosgov and Turiaf makes sense to start in terms of the backups.

If Azu is healthy, that's a whole new ball of wax. He could actually start ahead of Chandler and you can probably forget about either or both Mozgov and/or Mason. If he's unhealthy and Mason sucks, then Fields may actually get playing time from the get go.

Thought Stoudemire didn't want to play center. I'd rather switch AR to center, he would be tough to shoot over. He has supposedly
bulked up some, hopefully enough not to get pushed out of the blocks. I think the rest of your rotation is spot on.

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9/15/2010  12:02 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
TMS wrote:C - Turiaf 15 mpg
PF - Amare
SF - Gallinari
SG - Wilson
PG - Felton
6 - Randolph
7 - Douglas
8 - Mozgov
9 - Mason or Walker

Yep this is what i was thinking too, except Randolph starting at PF, and Turiaf off the bench, sharing the minutes about evenly with Mozgov, at first. After a few games Tim will likely play more than Turiaf.

i am hoping that Mozgov can grow into a starting role on this team eventually too, but it's too early to tell what he can really become... for now i'll be happy if he brings some physical play & defense off the bench, pretty much what we were looking to get out of Darko last year but never got the chance to see... IMO right now Randolph is best served as a 6th man off the bench so he can use his versatility & play different roles on this team... at least as long as Gallo is our starting SF that is... Amare has already voiced his desire not to play big minutes at the C position, plus i don't wanna expose him to any unnecessary wear & tear banging down low w/his injury history... i'd rather have our C be a dirty work type guy w/some size like Turiaf or Mozgov who can block shots downlow & defend... that will free up Amare to look more for his offense off the P&R & in the midrange game... i'm sure AR is gonna see big minutes in this rotation regardless if he starts or not.

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9/15/2010  12:18 AM
We've got a pretty good tandem with Turiaf and Timo at C. Let them bang and absorb fouls as opposed to Amar'e or AR. This isn't the time to have Amar'e/AR unnecessarily waste energy in that way. We will get a nice boost from having AR as a sixth man IMO. Our 2nd unit should be pretty explosive and fast as heck. AR, TD, Mason or Walker give us some real speed and if Timo is out there with those guys we don't lose any speed or size at PF/C either, we actually get BIGGER.
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9/15/2010  1:04 AM
Putting AR (and Amare) at center is asking for trouble. They are too valuable to expose to injury in that way. Platoon the Center position with Turiaf and Mosgov. I'd even rather have Gallinari do low post defense than AR... I think AR is too fragile.
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9/15/2010  1:15 AM
knickstorrents wrote:Putting AR (and Amare) at center is asking for trouble. They are too valuable to expose to injury in that way. Platoon the Center position with Turiaf and Mosgov. I'd even rather have Gallinari do low post defense than AR... I think AR is too fragile.

The way Mike is likely to do it is to only use AR or Amar'e when the other team goes smaller. There are going to be times when the other team won't have a big post player in there. Given that there really aren't many in the league to begin with
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9/15/2010  7:00 AM
Turiaf - C (20-24)
Amare - PF (35-37)
Gallo - SF (37-39)
Chandler - SG (30)
Felton - PG (35-37)

Randolph is first off the bench
Douglas & Mason are the guards off the bench until Azubuike is healthy, at which point, I think Chandler gets bumped to the bench with Randolph and Mason might get buried. Heck, Mason might even start over Chandler, depending on what they do in pre season and training camp.

Timo is my situational enforcer and starts the season getting 10-15 minutes every game.

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9/15/2010  8:20 AM
knickstorrents wrote:Putting AR (and Amare) at center is asking for trouble. They are too valuable to expose to injury in that way. Platoon the Center position with Turiaf and Mosgov. I'd even rather have Gallinari do low post defense than AR... I think AR is too fragile.

I'm good with AR as 6th man, but i just want to know if he will ever be a center in his career. If so, then he is our center of the future, if not then we should trade him at some point when his value is high.
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9/15/2010  8:32 AM
Knixkik wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:Putting AR (and Amare) at center is asking for trouble. They are too valuable to expose to injury in that way. Platoon the Center position with Turiaf and Mosgov. I'd even rather have Gallinari do low post defense than AR... I think AR is too fragile.

I'm good with AR as 6th man, but i just want to know if he will ever be a center in his career. If so, then he is our center of the future, if not then we should trade him at some point when his value is high.

why would you conclude at this point that we "should trade him at some point when his value is high?" what if the guy turns out to be an awesome player? you don't keep a 6'11" multi-talented awesome player? why not?

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9/15/2010  8:35 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:I don't expect to see Field much in the beginning either, unless he really blows up from the start, which I am not sure will happen. The same could go to Mozgov. If Turiaf is healthy, he's going to get minutes, whether it's as a starter or a backup.

C- Stoudemire
PF- Randolph
SF- Gallinari
SG- Chandler
PG- Felton

Douglas, Mason, Mosgov and Turiaf makes sense to start in terms of the backups.

If Azu is healthy, that's a whole new ball of wax. He could actually start ahead of Chandler and you can probably forget about either or both Mozgov and/or Mason. If he's unhealthy and Mason sucks, then Fields may actually get playing time from the get go.

Agree 100%. This is how I envision it -- whether Mike starts that unit or not I have no idea but I would think he definitely looks to finish games with that unit--it's our 5 best players..I think for the good of the team Amar'e will have to check the opposing teams' bigger players down low, whether he likes it or not. Unless either Mozgov or Turiaf is on the court with him, then Amar'e can play the 4 but in any frontcourt alignment where we see Amar'e, Gallo and Randolph TOGETHER all at the same time then Amar'e is the 5. He's just much better equipped physically than Gallo or AR for that type of duty..I also think we can see a little flip-flop at the 3 & 4 between Gallo & Randolph..Whatever the position, I just want us to FEATURE AR and by that I mean big minutes, mistakes and all. We didn't trade D Lee to play this guy 20 mins...As long as his body holds up I want him playing big minutes (which is why I don't want him checking bigger players on a regular basis--I want to keep this kid as fresh & as healthy as humanly possible. There will be many times where he'll find himself battling down low but there's no need to subject him to any unnecessary amount of physicality by penciling him in as our center)..That's how I look at it...And you're spot on with Azu Allanfan---if he's healthy enough to participate he definitely changes things..A healthy Azubuike is gonna get time, simple as that..We just need to pray he can get himself back ASAP. W/o Azu, we're still in good shape at the 2 with Chandler, Mason, Rautins, Fields, etc. but we have a chance to be really good with at healthy Azubuike...It'll all be up to Mike. We'll find out soon enough..I can't wait to see this all unfold on the court..I haven't been this excited about the team in a loooooooooooong time.

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9/15/2010  8:37 AM
Magic Johnson 2.0 aka Anthony Randolph better start and play 35 mpg. If he's this God-like talent some of you make him out to be, he's not a 25 mpg bench player like I think he'll be.
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9/15/2010  8:40 AM
Mike D'Antoni will most likely go with ...

PF: Amar'e Stoudemire
SF: Danilo Gallinari
C: Ronny Turiaf
SG: Wilson Chandler
PG: Raymond Felton
F: Anthony Randolph
G: Toney Douglas
G: Roger Mason Jr. until Kelenna Azubuike is healthy

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9/15/2010  9:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/15/2010  4:59 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Im going to say the best way for the Knicks to play is go deep --as in 9/1- deep. Its important NOT to ride Amare into the ground as we are in to him for 20mm for 5 years running--he should get the tim Duncan treatment 33-34 min max.

Im going 10 with a 5 man energy unit off the bench

C/F-Amare-34
F Randolph-34
F Gallo-34
G Chandler-34
G Felton-34
C Mosgov-14
F-Fields 14
F-Walker 14
G/F Azubuke(until he heals) 14
G Douglas 14

I could cut the rotation to 9 or even 8 if some guys do not step up + play well or if Azu is healed 100%

Im going with Mosgov over Turriaf. Walker has to play like he did end of last year--I hope that what we saw in the SL was just an adjustment to his body loss but giving him the benefit of the doubt as he was stroking well from 3 last year. Im penciling in fields over mason because of the D and his rebounding--but he has to ptove it in camp to gett hose minutes.

Hope we do have a 10 man rotation of some kind or another.

If we are a good team it will make a difference come playoffs, when we can give a smaller core rotation more minutes and they will be fresher.

Not sure how Walker fits in this year, and Azubuike's situation is up in the air, but I can see something similar to this in terms of minute distribution, although I believe that Mason, if healthy, would get minutes at the expense of guys like Fields and Walker, and probably cause one, or both of those guys to hit the bench.

Edited- did not realize that you left out Turiaf... he is going to play a role in the rotation unless he is injured.

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9/15/2010  9:37 AM
My Rotation is

Amare
Turiaf
Gallo
Randolph
Chandler
Felton
Mason
Walker

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9/15/2010  9:44 AM
I thought they told Randolph he'd start at the 4?
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9/15/2010  10:59 AM
its a tough one... the Knicks have some versatile players who can play several positions.

I think it will be 8 guys, with the 9th only getting spot minutes w/ foul trouble type situations.

In the rotation:
Amare
Gallo
Douglas
Felton
Chandler
Randolph

One of these: Mosgov, Turiaf
One of these: Fields, Walker, Mason

wildcard: Azubuike

I really think anything can happen, but my gut feeling is MDA will start with size and go with speed off the bench.

Something like:
Felton
Chandler
Gallo
Amare
Mosgov/Turiaf (pick one)

with Douglas and AR coming off the bench and playing big minutes like when Spree and Camby used to come in for those old Knick teams.

Thing I like about that starting line up and those two coming off the bench together is you can sub those two guys for any 2 starters.

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