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BRIGGS
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9/12/2010  10:26 AM
We have a legit 25 points scorer along with shot blockers re-bounders others guys who can score in a variety of ways --but look at what we have on the wing/backcourt


Wilson Chandler last year 15 points per game
Felton 12 points per game
Azubuike 14 points
gallinari 15 points per game
B Walher 12 points
T Douglas almost 9 points
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That is a lot of collective scoring punch in and out---we will have highly increased shot blocking and lane protection ---it's a very good deep team--that is the strength-- need to play 9-10 guys to keep everyone fresh but I think we have a lot of answer and will be hard to match up with

We could play a zone with that would be hard to shoot over at times
C-Mosgov 7-1 265
F Randolph 6-11 225
F Gallinari 6-10 235
F Chandler 6-9 225
G Douglas 6-2 190

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9/12/2010  11:19 AM
So much for all that nonsense about walsh and dantoni not liking height
I just hope that people will like me
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9/12/2010  11:28 AM
If Wilson Chandler is 6'9" than I'm just one clever pick-up line and a long island ice tea away from bringing Sofia Vergara back to the crib But I see what you're saying. Heck, I'm hoping to see some full-court presses like back in the Pitino days. You could Ar play the top and Timo hold it down near the basket. Douglas and Felton do a good job of playing the passing lanes, so you could just start them in the backcourt to pick up the defensive pressure and tempo. I'm getting giddy just thinking about the defensive possibilities.
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9/12/2010  11:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/12/2010  11:43 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:If Wilson Chandler is 6'9" than I'm just one clever pick-up line and a long island ice tea away from bringing Sofia Vergara back to the crib But I see what you're saying. Heck, I'm hoping to see some full-court presses like back in the Pitino days. You could Ar play the top and Timo hold it down near the basket. Douglas and Felton do a good job of playing the passing lanes, so you could just start them in the backcourt to pick up the defensive pressure and tempo. I'm getting giddy just thinking about the defensive possibilities.

this would be my depth chart right now 5-4 can swap up as well as wings Im adding Fields as a Boris Diaw type 4 because of his rebounding.

C-Amare Mosgov Turriaf
F Randolph Fields
F Gallinari Walker
G Chandler Azubuike
G Felton Douglas Mason
ir Curry Rautins

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9/12/2010  1:29 PM
We have pretty good length and athleticism.

I've said it before, and now again...

MDA has a lot of resources to use this year, and if Azubuike and Mason are healthy, our outside shooting should come around.

With all the match-up flexibility he has in terms of personnel, I see this season as one that will determine how much longer MDA remains as head coach of the Knicks.

Maybe I'm overrating our talent, but we seem to have enough guys to cover almost any situation a team might face.

Time for D'Antoni to show his stuff.

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9/12/2010  1:45 PM
Paladin55 wrote:We have pretty good length and athleticism.

I've said it before, and now again...

MDA has a lot of resources to use this year, and if Azubuike and Mason are healthy, our outside shooting should come around.

With all the match-up flexibility he has in terms of personnel, I see this season as one that will determine how much longer MDA remains as head coach of the Knicks.

Maybe I'm overrating our talent, but we seem to have enough guys to cover almost any situation a team might face.

Time for D'Antoni to show his stuff.

I expect performance and usage of the depth he has. I don't want to hear BS excuses or crybaby actions because we may not have a player he likes. This is where a JVG mentality come sin--go hard with the players you have--and he has a lot to work with--much more talented than people are giving us credit for. We can rotate Amare Mosgov Randolph and Gallo upfront with maybe a little energy from turriaf--thats a pretty decent frontline. Gallo looked very good in the post end of year--maybe we see some expansion of that part of his game. At the 3 at near 6-11 hes got an advantage against every defender.

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9/12/2010  4:39 PM
Teams will have difficulty with the Knicks length and speed. This team is made to play D and I hope Mike D emphasizes this much more than trying to score 110 points. There will be atleast two shot blockers on the floor at all times with a speedy defensive ball hawking PG. There will be many opportunities for the Knicks to hurt teams on secondary plays on both ends with either offensive rebounds or shot blocking.


I like the Knicks chances to win 50+ games the more I break down this roster--the goal should be to win 50+ games and let it fly in the playoffs. I think that having Mosgov show he can bang play some D and score some points while clogging the lane has to be added in when i didnt even count him.

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9/12/2010  4:43 PM
the backcourt needs restructuring and it would help to have a legitimate 5

the roster is much improved and I'm actually looking forward to watching some Knicks games this year... but please God do not let this be the finished product

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9/12/2010  5:42 PM
Just to reiterate what i've said before about Mike. This guy we already know is an offensive genius and he's NOT going to lack for ideas on how to use this much talent. Even when we had Zach and Jamal he had it looking pretty good and those guys played ZERO D!!! Now imagine what he can do with a roster that has more defenders than he had in PHX? His teams were never in the bottom half of the league in PHX. They would end up right about in the middle of the league, but be at the top on Offense and that is a winning combination.

Most of defense is about effort and persistent attention to your assignment. Schemes are nice, but good ole fashioned hustle goes a long way. We have guys that like to defend now and I think that will make a huge difference. Jared, Chan, TD and Gallo showed that you can play hard on D and it has nothing to do with the coach getting on you. It's about pride.

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9/12/2010  9:19 PM
Also look for the Warriors to begin shopping center Andris Biedrins as soon as Lacob's group is approved. Dumping Biedrins in exchange for expiring contracts would give the Warriors enough cap room to pursue Yao Ming as a free agent next summer.

Source
http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1193

But Ming I thought he had health issues?

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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9/12/2010  9:21 PM
nixluva wrote:Just to reiterate what i've said before about Mike. This guy we already know is an offensive genius and he's NOT going to lack for ideas on how to use this much talent. Even when we had Zach and Jamal he had it looking pretty good and those guys played ZERO D!!! Now imagine what he can do with a roster that has more defenders than he had in PHX? His teams were never in the bottom half of the league in PHX. They would end up right about in the middle of the league, but be at the top on Offense and that is a winning combination.

Most of defense is about effort and persistent attention to your assignment. Schemes are nice, but good ole fashioned hustle goes a long way. We have guys that like to defend now and I think that will make a huge difference. Jared, Chan, TD and Gallo showed that you can play hard on D and it has nothing to do with the coach getting on you. It's about pride.

Id like us to play 9/10. Im a big believer in a 9 man rotation to keep guys fresh for the season---but I think we could even go 10 to get Fields minutes a game. If Douglas can give me some sharp minutes at back up PG I dont see a necessity to play anyone more than 35 minutes. I want to conserve Amare like they conserve T Duncan 32-33.

Amare--34 minutes
Randolph 34 minutes
Gallo ---34
Chandler 34
Felton --34
Mosgov--14
Fields --14
Walker--14
Azu--14
Douglas --14
Use Mason and turriaf for foul trouble and depth reasons(obviously azu might not be ready)

1st and 2nd units

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9/13/2010  3:00 PM
I think we'll see alot LESS of:

and alot MORE of:

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9/13/2010  3:48 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:We have pretty good length and athleticism.

I've said it before, and now again...

MDA has a lot of resources to use this year, and if Azubuike and Mason are healthy, our outside shooting should come around.

With all the match-up flexibility he has in terms of personnel, I see this season as one that will determine how much longer MDA remains as head coach of the Knicks.

Maybe I'm overrating our talent, but we seem to have enough guys to cover almost any situation a team might face.

Time for D'Antoni to show his stuff.

I expect performance and usage of the depth he has. I don't want to hear BS excuses or crybaby actions because we may not have a player he likes. This is where a JVG mentality come sin--go hard with the players you have--and he has a lot to work with--much more talented than people are giving us credit for. We can rotate Amare Mosgov Randolph and Gallo upfront with maybe a little energy from turriaf--thats a pretty decent frontline. Gallo looked very good in the post end of year--maybe we see some expansion of that part of his game. At the 3 at near 6-11 hes got an advantage against every defender.

JVG mentality? the first sign of trouble he bailed out on the Knicks kind of like a rat jumping off a sinking ship. JVG had a stacked team to boot Ewing, Johnson, Spree, H20, Camby and he bitched and moaned when Oakley was traded for Camby. He was a good coach but lets not forget the past because of time.

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9/13/2010  4:03 PM
Vmart wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:We have pretty good length and athleticism.

I've said it before, and now again...

MDA has a lot of resources to use this year, and if Azubuike and Mason are healthy, our outside shooting should come around.

With all the match-up flexibility he has in terms of personnel, I see this season as one that will determine how much longer MDA remains as head coach of the Knicks.

Maybe I'm overrating our talent, but we seem to have enough guys to cover almost any situation a team might face.

Time for D'Antoni to show his stuff.

I expect performance and usage of the depth he has. I don't want to hear BS excuses or crybaby actions because we may not have a player he likes. This is where a JVG mentality come sin--go hard with the players you have--and he has a lot to work with--much more talented than people are giving us credit for. We can rotate Amare Mosgov Randolph and Gallo upfront with maybe a little energy from turriaf--thats a pretty decent frontline. Gallo looked very good in the post end of year--maybe we see some expansion of that part of his game. At the 3 at near 6-11 hes got an advantage against every defender.

JVG mentality? the first sign of trouble he bailed out on the Knicks kind of like a rat jumping off a sinking ship. JVG had a stacked team to boot Ewing, Johnson, Spree, H20, Camby and he bitched and moaned when Oakley was traded for Camby. He was a good coach but lets not forget the past because of time.

in all fairness to jvg - he saw the writing on the wall and left.....you or i would have done the same thing in his shoes considering how quickly the franchise sunk soon after his departure. through his years as both assistant under riley and had coach, he stuck through alot and put up with alot of crap.

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9/13/2010  4:11 PM
JVG was a pretty good coach. But, I have to agree he spent much of 1999 complaining about two of the better trades this franchise has ever made.

He had a style and he didn't adapt to his teams stregths. He was loyal to Ewing and his veterans and he nearly coached the team that could have one the whole thing if healthy out of the top 8 in the conference. Which was no easy task.

That team had Sprewell, Childs, Camby, Dudley on the bench.

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9/13/2010  4:20 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:Just to reiterate what i've said before about Mike. This guy we already know is an offensive genius and he's NOT going to lack for ideas on how to use this much talent. Even when we had Zach and Jamal he had it looking pretty good and those guys played ZERO D!!! Now imagine what he can do with a roster that has more defenders than he had in PHX? His teams were never in the bottom half of the league in PHX. They would end up right about in the middle of the league, but be at the top on Offense and that is a winning combination.

Most of defense is about effort and persistent attention to your assignment. Schemes are nice, but good ole fashioned hustle goes a long way. We have guys that like to defend now and I think that will make a huge difference. Jared, Chan, TD and Gallo showed that you can play hard on D and it has nothing to do with the coach getting on you. It's about pride.

Id like us to play 9/10. Im a big believer in a 9 man rotation to keep guys fresh for the season---but I think we could even go 10 to get Fields minutes a game. If Douglas can give me some sharp minutes at back up PG I dont see a necessity to play anyone more than 35 minutes. I want to conserve Amare like they conserve T Duncan 32-33.

Amare--34 minutes
Randolph 34 minutes
Gallo ---34
Chandler 34
Felton --34
Mosgov--14
Fields --14
Walker--14
Azu--14
Douglas --14
Use Mason and turriaf for foul trouble and depth reasons(obviously azu might not be ready)

1st and 2nd units

Depending on the game situation (i.e., score, etc.) I'd look to reduce Amare to around 30 minutes some games and increase AR. We need a healthy Amare to be successful. He won't need a full 34 to get his stats in MDA's P&R offense.

If you consider what we have upfront in terms iof diversity

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