Elite play makers are like elite centers. There are usually only 5-6 in the league at a time. The centers make it tough on the other team. The PG make everything easier on your team. Those are probably your two most valuable pieces in the NBA.

Tony Parker? He's really good but I'm not sure he's better enough than Felton to get too excited. Maybe I am selling him short.

Regardless I agree 100% with the theme of your post.

When you look at the size and skill level of Gallo/Amare/AR I really believe we have the makings of an elite level frontcourt. Its just going to require patience. After watching Mosgov against NBA players I think the ceiling for this group is even higher now. It keeps Gallo at SF and gives you a nice rotation of AR/Amare/Mosgov between the 4/5.

Felton didnt rack up a ton of assists but he was a good floor general last year and his defense was top notch. I'm willing to wait and see what we have there. Unless the upgrade is significant I think that spot is workable.

Joe Johnson would have been the pefect SG and really elevated this team to another level. He's just not worth the money he got, but having a guy who makes plays, can score and play good defense at SG would be huge. Eny mentioned Iggy once. I think he would be a perfect fit. With Gallo on the floor you have less pressure to get a SG who can shoot the long ball. A guy like Iggy who is a top notch defender and an excellent play maker as well would be huge for this team. He's not a FA but does play the same spot as Evan Turner and I think his contract makes him expendable for Phili.

Very hard to speculate though... I think you just need to let this group brew for awhile to see what kind of soup we have.

fishmike wrote:havent you coveted Felton for some time? I always thought you were super high on him.

Elite play makers are like elite centers. There are usually only 5-6 in the league at a time. The centers make it tough on the other team. The PG make everything easier on your team. Those are probably your two most valuable pieces in the NBA.

Tony Parker? He's really good but I'm not sure he's better enough than Felton to get too excited. Maybe I am selling him short.

Regardless I agree 100% with the theme of your post.

When you look at the size and skill level of Gallo/Amare/AR I really believe we have the makings of an elite level frontcourt. Its just going to require patience. After watching Mosgov against NBA players I think the ceiling for this group is even higher now. It keeps Gallo at SF and gives you a nice rotation of AR/Amare/Mosgov between the 4/5.

Felton didnt rack up a ton of assists but he was a good floor general last year and his defense was top notch. I'm willing to wait and see what we have there. Unless the upgrade is significant I think that spot is workable.

Joe Johnson would have been the pefect SG and really elevated this team to another level. He's just not worth the money he got, but having a guy who makes plays, can score and play good defense at SG would be huge. Eny mentioned Iggy once. I think he would be a perfect fit. With Gallo on the floor you have less pressure to get a SG who can shoot the long ball. A guy like Iggy who is a top notch defender and an excellent play maker as well would be huge for this team. He's not a FA but does play the same spot as Evan Turner and I think his contract makes him expendable for Phili.

Very hard to speculate though... I think you just need to let this group brew for awhile to see what kind of soup we have.

I agree with this. I would have signed on for Joe Johnson at like $10M per year. I don't like Iggy.

I like Ray Felton a lot. He's a capable, dependable PG. But we need a star playmaker. Parker is one of those, if he can show he's healthy. Parker and Amare on the pick and roll with Gallo to space the floor would be murder.

Iggy got 4 years and $12.4M $13.5M $14.7M $15.9M left on his contract.

Or perhaps Fields/Walker/Curry for Iggy?

martin wrote:if Philly offered Iggy for Chandler and Curry would you guys do it?

Iggy got 4 years and $12.4M $13.5M $14.7M $15.9M left on his contract.

Or perhaps Fields/Walker/Curry for Iggy?

Yes, to both. He'd be a bit overpaid, but still less than what Melo costs you, and you fill a position of greater need.
I'm not comparing him to Melo, but I think over all keep more assets at lower cost, and have a really solid starting 5,
with flexibilty going forward.

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:if Philly offered Iggy for Chandler and Curry would you guys do it?

Iggy got 4 years and $12.4M $13.5M $14.7M $15.9M left on his contract.

Or perhaps Fields/Walker/Curry for Iggy?

I don't see Iggy as a playmaker at all. We need someone who can create for others in a halfcourt set. Kind of a Brandon Roy/Joe Johnson type would be perfect next to Felton. Or an upgrade at PG.

For those saying the frontcourt needs work? Where?

SF - Gallinari - 6'11", fluid ballhandler, one of the better shooters in the league.
PF - Amar'e - 6'10", beast, one of the best and most dominant low-post scorers in the league.
PF/C - ARandoplh - 6'11", young horse, could easily be our Noah, more offensive potential.
C - Mozgov - 7'1", young, active banger, good shotblocker.
PF/C - Turiaf 6'10", hustles, active, could be our Kurt Thomas.
SF - Wilson Chandler 6'8", fluid athlete, can defend multiple positions and plays well off the ball.

we need an upgrade at SG or PG - a playmaker, not another guy who needs the ball to be effective. i think Parker is the biggest upgrade who is attainable.

edit: if David Kahn is ever fired in Minnesota, Rubio moves up on the list of guys we should target, too.

I guess I don't get your response. I don't think anyone has pegged Iggy as a playmaker, we got Felton for that. And does he really need the ball to be effective? Debatable.

What he does bring is toughness and perimeter defense and rebounding.

This is a bit of projecting, but imagine a lineup of Timo, Amare, Gallo, Iggy, Felton. With Turiaf/AR, Chandler, Douglas off the bench covering big, medium and small positions. It's a big lineup all around and tough one to boot. And pretty much you got 2-way players at every position that starts and comes off the bench.

What Iggy lacks in 3point shooting is made up in Gallo, and Iggy adds more slashing than Gallo provides - they compliment one another.

But yeah like you said...that's 4 seasons of paying him 12-15M and not someone else.

Wonder what MDA would say if Donnie ran the idea by him. Def doesn't seem like a D'antoni player.

Funny thing is..these are guys who make more $ than Iggy that I think are worse than him now (not when they signed)

Rashard Lewis
KG
Redd
Kirilenko
Vince Carter
K-Mart
Elton Brand
Peja
Jason Richardson
Bynum
Brandon Roy
Tony Parker