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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
9/7/2010 12:23 PM LAST EDITED: 9/7/2010 12:24 PM
Thanks Pavvy. Mosgov hustles, stays active, and isn't afraid of contact. Just what the Knicks need off the bench. Great at finishing off the long pass as well. Divac may have competition for the euro-flopper crown.
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
9/7/2010 12:43 PM
i think Mozgov will be a player for us. he hustles and bangs and has some skill level. i see him being a solid piece for about 15-20 minutes a game most nights. i like his defensive awareness, too.
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
9/7/2010 12:47 PM
i wonder if donnie sees some rik smits in this kid. he kind of looks like him, doesn't seem to have the jumper that smits did yet.
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jusnice
Posts: 20610 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 10/8/2009 Member: #2931 USA |
9/7/2010 12:49 PM
He'd better not try that flopping crap in the NBA, especially in MSG. He needs to give us 6 solid, hard fouls a night and 8-10 boards in 15-20 minutes of action. Any offense would be gravy.
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Panos
Posts: 29316 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
9/7/2010 12:53 PM
jusnice wrote:He'd better not try that flopping crap in the NBA, especially in MSG. He needs to give us 6 solid, hard fouls a night and 8-10 boards in 15-20 minutes of action. Any offense would be gravy. I want to see him send a couple of that fool, Bosh's shots into the 3rd row. |
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
9/7/2010 12:55 PM
jusnice wrote:He'd better not try that flopping crap in the NBA, especially in MSG. He needs to give us 6 solid, hard fouls a night and 8-10 boards in 15-20 minutes of action. Any offense would be gravy. 8-10 rebounds in 15-20 minutes of action? that's a lot of rebounds. glad to see our expectations are realistic, as always. ¿ △ ?
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AnubisADL
Posts: 27382 Alba Posts: 13 Joined: 6/29/2009 Member: #2771 USA |
9/7/2010 12:55 PM
I dont think Mozgov is as good as Darko.
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
9/7/2010 1:00 PM
With a little more strength training he's gonna be pretty tough in the paint. I notice that he gets knocked off balance just a tad, not much, but if he was a bit stronger there'd be little they could do with him. His base is a bit weak, but at least he has excellent agility for a guy 7'1". He keeps his arms up which is another thing I like to see.
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Pavvy
Posts: 20203 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/19/2009 Member: #2992 |
9/7/2010 1:08 PM LAST EDITED: 9/7/2010 1:09 PM
I want to see him send a couple of that fool, Bosh's shots into the 3rd row.
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
9/7/2010 1:08 PM
Say What?
"I dont think Mozgov is as good as Darko." AnubisADL - care to elaborate on thst opinion? Darko was a malcontent and a malingerer who felt entitled to minutes. He sulked and displayed the worst qualities of a team mate on the floor in public. What makes you think he was out for anyone but himself? Darko? C'mon son. once a knick always a knick
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Pavvy
Posts: 20203 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/19/2009 Member: #2992 |
9/7/2010 1:10 PM
nixluva wrote:With a little more strength training he's gonna be pretty tough in the paint. I notice that he gets knocked off balance just a tad, not much, but if he was a bit stronger there'd be little they could do with him. His base is a bit weak, but at least he has excellent agility for a guy 7'1". He keeps his arms up which is another thing I like to see. yes good observation nixluva- he does seem to fall down a lot for a 7'1 guy- sometimes he may fall down to sell the foul just like youve seen from yesterdays highlights- but other than the flopping he does seem to lose his balance a bit easy--- thats where the nba training should come and help!! |
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martin
Posts: 69004 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
9/7/2010 1:20 PM
I can see Mozgov having an up and down year as he adjusts to the NBA - kind of like Gallo this past year without the starters minutes. Hopefully he can keep up the good work habits and add strength.
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smackeddog
Posts: 38386 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
9/7/2010 1:21 PM
Thanks for all the vids and info you've been giving us, Pavvy- when you started showing us highlights weeks ago, I was very unimpressed with him and thought he had very little to offer the team, but he seems to have improved a lot since then, and I'm now hopeful he can give us a good 10 to 15 mins this season- obviously it's too early to tell though, but we'll see.
misterearl is absolutely right- while Darko is probably more talented and could have helped us last season, but unfortunately, as with a lot of players, his attitude and sense of entitlement meant he never worked hard enough in practice to earn a spot on the rotation. At least Mosgov should still be eager to prove himself and has a realistic goal for this season (hoping to contribute the said 10 to 15 minutes) Really, the Layden years showed us that character alone is not enough, the Isiah years showed us that talent alone isn't enough- we need players with both, and I'm hopeful that we've succeeded in addressing that this offseason. |
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AnubisADL
Posts: 27382 Alba Posts: 13 Joined: 6/29/2009 Member: #2771 USA |
9/7/2010 1:30 PM
misterearl wrote:Say What? Darko a malcontent? I haven't heard any negative reports about Darko from coaches or other players about his attitude. He is a bust but he isn't some headcase. I didn't hear him making trade demands last year did you? My comment about Mosgov was that he seems to beast against undersized weak centers. The guy is a project and to isnt better than a guy like Deandre Jordan. NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
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fishmike
Posts: 53154 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
9/7/2010 1:31 PM
martin wrote:I can see Mozgov having an up and down year as he adjusts to the NBA - kind of like Gallo this past year without the starters minutes. Hopefully he can keep up the good work habits and add strength. exactly... he's going to have some really good moments and some equally bad ones. His age is a positive as is playing pro ball. Having Amare next to him is also key, as well as a good defensive PG. Good prospect. Looking forward to seeing him against the NBA players next game "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Pavvy
Posts: 20203 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/19/2009 Member: #2992 |
9/7/2010 1:51 PM
smackeddog wrote:Thanks for all the vids and info you've been giving us, Pavvy- when you started showing us highlights weeks ago, I was very unimpressed with him and thought he had very little to offer the team, but he seems to have improved a lot since then, and I'm now hopeful he can give us a good 10 to 15 mins this season- obviously it's too early to tell though, but we'll see. no problem dude- dont forget that the first clips that i was uploading in august were from a friendly tournament so it wasnt the same intensity but i still think he played very good considering hes playing for russias national team which means he wont play more than 20 minutes- the main thing is that he makes his presence felt when he steps in the game- it doesnt matter if he doesnt start because most of the times he finishes the games!!! hes not complaining to the refs in this championship unlike the video i made showing him constantly complaining to the refs in the friendly tournament last month in Cyprus where the refs were sometimes really bad. |
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PresIke
Posts: 27660 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
9/7/2010 2:25 PM LAST EDITED: 9/7/2010 2:26 PM
jusnice wrote:He'd better not try that flopping crap in the NBA, especially in MSG. He needs to give us 6 solid, hard fouls a night and 8-10 boards in 15-20 minutes of action. Any offense would be gravy. A) Don't care if my own team player flops too much, since in the NBA that's par the course. Reggie Miller being a prime example. If he was a Knick no one would care. My guess is you'll see him setting picks, hustling on D, running the pick and roll, posting up, shot blocking, and a little jump shooting...the 6 fouls could be true, because he does seem to get into foul trouble. Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
9/7/2010 4:10 PM
That blonde wasnt bad:)
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Pavvy
Posts: 20203 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/19/2009 Member: #2992 |
9/7/2010 4:11 PM
BRIGGS wrote:That blonde wasnt bad:) hahaaaa woow it took 18 posts for somebody to comment on her :) i thought people didnt like her |