http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2010/09/03/2010-09-03_source_new_york_knicks_president_donnie_walsh_recently_rejected_deal_for_rudy_fe.html?r=sports%2Fbasketball%2Fknicks&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nydnrss%2Fsports%2Fbasketball%2Fknicks+%28Sports%2FBasketball%2FKnicks%29

Walsh rejected a trade that would send AR to Indiana, Indiana's first round pick to Portland and Fernandez to the Knicks- I can only assume this proposal was some sort of practical joke on Portlands behalf. Really their stance with Rudy started off as amusingly over valued, but now it's just worrying how a GM can be that deluded as to the value of their player. They do realise that the off season started a few months ago, and that by now most teams have made their main moves? Of the 3 teams that were interested in him that he wanted to play for, the Knicks signed Mason Jr, the Celtics have signed West and Chicago signed Bogans- really only the latter still have room for him but at the same time their not desperate.

Portland's handling of this has been ridiculous, and I really don't see how they could think we would be willing to give up AR for Rudy, and that that would be equal value. They seem to want a lottery pick in return for him, despite his attitude and the fact he was picked in the late first round and since then has seen his value decrease due to poor play. They could have got something reasonable for him a few months ago, but have bizzarely decided that his value will increase as time goes by, when in reality it's going in the opposite tragectory.

iSergio wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Yeah this is a little ridiculous. I know Rudy has some upside, but putting him in the same deal as AR is an absolute joke. AR is a lottery pick with star upside, Rudy is a late first round pick with starter upside.

No, he isn't. And that's the problem. Some of you are being ridiculous with Anthony Randolph. He's not going to be a Star. He'll be a good role player if he stays healthy and accepts a role. Other teams know this.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

iSergio wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Yeah this is a little ridiculous. I know Rudy has some upside, but putting him in the same deal as AR is an absolute joke. AR is a lottery pick with star upside, Rudy is a late first round pick with starter upside.

No, he isn't. And that's the problem. Some of you are being ridiculous with Anthony Randolph. He's not going to be a Star. He'll be a good role player if he stays healthy and accepts a role. Other teams know this.

dude..the guy's barely had a chance to get regular playing time. it amazes me how you're so sure about what he is and what he will be. the guy said he's a lottery pick (true) with star upside (debatable).

what exactly are you basing your opinion on? from what i've seen in highlights and what i've seen statistically when the kid gets minutes he seems like he's got a ton of upside.

what are you looking at?

fully agree with this. And AR is a much more intriguing player than Rudy - potential wise.

NYKBocker wrote:

Vmart wrote:Rautins for Rudy still on the table. Anything else is laughable from the Knicks standpoint. I'm feeling generous I'll throw in a third round pick.

Throw in a month's supply of Lamb Shish Kabob from a street vendor in Flushing and I think they will bite.

That's too much. One Knish and a black cherry soda for Paul Allen--thats as far as I go.

Portland never will build a championship team because of the way they value their players. Just package these guys, do some deals that maybe are favorable for other teams, but consolidate your talent into a few guys who can carry you. Fernandez isn't even playing on that team. I don't know if I'd do the deal with the Knicks, but put three of their wings together who never play and package them for a major star. They're tough to understand in terms of their strategy. Do you want to win championships or just be pretty good forever?

JohnWallace44 wrote:Trade a young big with a crazy skill set for a guy who is a shooter, just a shooter.

Portland never will build a championship team because of the way they value their players. Just package these guys, do some deals that maybe are favorable for other teams, but consolidate your talent into a few guys who can carry you. Fernandez isn't even playing on that team. I don't know if I'd do the deal with the Knicks, but put three of their wings together who never play and package them for a major star. They're tough to understand in terms of their strategy. Do you want to win championships or just be pretty good forever?

Portland is in disarray the minute they fired Kevin Pritchard. While I am happy that Richard Cho is the first asian-american GM in NBA history, I have to wonder what he is smoking and if I can have some.

iSergio wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Yeah this is a little ridiculous. I know Rudy has some upside, but putting him in the same deal as AR is an absolute joke. AR is a lottery pick with star upside, Rudy is a late first round pick with starter upside.

No, he isn't. And that's the problem. Some of you are being ridiculous with Anthony Randolph. He's not going to be a Star. He'll be a good role player if he stays healthy and accepts a role. Other teams know this.

Umm... wrong. Don't have much of an eye for talent, eh Serg? AR has a unique combination of skills, length, and athleticism. You may be right that he won't be a superstar, but he will certainly be an incredibly productive player and most likely an all-star a few times.