Felton
Azubuike/Chandler
Gallo
Amare
AR

Let's go to war.

You can't just ignore a trade that would improve us just cause your not sure of what you got, suppose this roster sucks when it's all said and done..then what

I don't give up anyone to get Melo. Are we getting out of the east with him? NO! So you don't mortgage young talent.

Zach, Eddy, Q they were all slow below average defenders. We have four players in the starting lineup that can block shots and one more off the bench. We have energy, shooters, finishers and some tough defenders in Turiaf, Douglas, Felton and AR. But more importantly we don't have trash on our roster anymore. These guys care and want to win. That's the difference.

We go with what we have, we play hard and build value. This team is good enough to compete with just about anyone. We played Boston tough last year, we owned the Hawks and the conference is weaker Tor, Char, Cle, Det, NJ are all under .500 teams.

I see no reason if they stay healthy and you have Felton in a system he was born to play that we can't take out anyone outside of Miami or Orlando.

SF - Gallo - 6'11" - one of the best shooters in the league, good handle, can drive to the hole and create for others.
PF - Amar'e - 6'10" - one of the best finishers in the league, one of the most dominant low post scorers in the league.
C - AR - 6'11"(at least???) - one of the best young shotblockers and energy guys in the league, potential to be an explosive scorer and defender.

this is a dynamic front court that features complimentary pieces galore. i want to see them play basketball.

Vmart wrote:Only in NY will someone debate getting a star player. You get Melo and then let the chips land where they may. This is a no brainer you get Melo here ASAP. Object is to get the fairest possible deal. Who the hell like to give up young talent but sometimes you have to do it to get the all elusive Championship. Boston didn't hesitate to trade their young talent to get Allen and KG result a championship and a trip to the finals. Same with Miami they dropped Odoms and Butler to get a shot at Shaq on his last leg. Result trip to ECF and a Championship. You get Melo here and I'm willing to part with AR and Gallo for him if push came to shove. I understand a lot of you want to wait until he is a FA but if Denver trades him signed sealed and delivered to a team other than NYK you guys are going to kick yourself for passing up on an opportunity to get a high profile star that is going into his prime.

I don't disagree entirely, but I think in this league you need three all star pieces now-- not two.

Right now we have 1) one all star player in Amare, 2) two potential all star caliber players in Gallo and Randolph and 3) enough expiring contracts to sign another all star player outright in 2011 (or via trade at the deadline).

If everything goes right, players develop, and we use the cap wisely, we can have four all star caliber players by next year or the year after.

Alternatively, we might be able to sell the farm now and be guaranteed two all stars and no draft picks.

For me, as much as I like the idea of Melo in NY wearing blue and orange, I think that selling the farm for him as though he was the only pony at the show is a mistake. You can quote me here when Gallo's back blows up again and Randolph's not yet mature frame gives out after 60 games (or when they simply don't develop any further), but I think that we can have a serious contender in a year or two. I think that Amare and Melo alone doesn't win a chip.

We will get an all star with the free agent money next year anyway, so why give up two potential all stars?

P.S. Somewhat off topic, but would you really want the Knicks doing training camp in Milan w/o Gallo? The locals might piss in the Knicks' pasta...

Vmart wrote:Only in NY will someone debate getting a star player. You get Melo and then let the chips land where they may. This is a no brainer you get Melo here ASAP. Object is to get the fairest possible deal. Who the hell like to give up young talent but sometimes you have to do it to get the all elusive Championship. Boston didn't hesitate to trade their young talent to get Allen and KG result a championship and a trip to the finals. Same with Miami they dropped Odoms and Butler to get a shot at Shaq on his last leg. Result trip to ECF and a Championship. You get Melo here and I'm willing to part with AR and Gallo for him if push came to shove. I understand a lot of you want to wait until he is a FA but if Denver trades him signed sealed and delivered to a team other than NYK you guys are going to kick yourself for passing up on an opportunity to get a high profile star that is going into his prime.

no they won't... they'll say Melo's overrated & start talking about how we absolutely must make a move to acquire Jerryd Bayless this summer because he's a "future top 5 player in the NBA"... it's ridiculous.

TMS wrote:

Vmart wrote:Only in NY will someone debate getting a star player. You get Melo and then let the chips land where they may. This is a no brainer you get Melo here ASAP. Object is to get the fairest possible deal. Who the hell like to give up young talent but sometimes you have to do it to get the all elusive Championship. Boston didn't hesitate to trade their young talent to get Allen and KG result a championship and a trip to the finals. Same with Miami they dropped Odoms and Butler to get a shot at Shaq on his last leg. Result trip to ECF and a Championship. You get Melo here and I'm willing to part with AR and Gallo for him if push came to shove. I understand a lot of you want to wait until he is a FA but if Denver trades him signed sealed and delivered to a team other than NYK you guys are going to kick yourself for passing up on an opportunity to get a high profile star that is going into his prime.

no they won't... they'll say Melo's overrated & start talking about how we absolutely must make a move to acquire Jerryd Bayless this summer because he's a "future top 5 player in the NBA"... it's ridiculous.

that's about the dumbest thing ever. Speak for yourself amigo.

There is no "no brainer" situation where you go after the all star without calculating everything. It is essential to try and figure out how Melo fits into D'Antoni's style of play and whether or not Melo would even accept playing for the Nets, instead of the Knicks.

I believe the Knicks start its 3 front court talents and try to figure out as quickly as possible what they have. I also think Melo wants to play with Amare, and therefore he will wait a reasonable period of time before pulling the trigger and settling somewhere else. Meanwhile, the Knicks need to find out how well Gallinari and Randolph fit with Amare and Felton. Blinding cashing in your young talent for Melo simply because he is a superstar, would in my opinion be a no brainer" of a different type.

martin wrote:

TMS wrote:

Vmart wrote:Only in NY will someone debate getting a star player. You get Melo and then let the chips land where they may. This is a no brainer you get Melo here ASAP. Object is to get the fairest possible deal. Who the hell like to give up young talent but sometimes you have to do it to get the all elusive Championship. Boston didn't hesitate to trade their young talent to get Allen and KG result a championship and a trip to the finals. Same with Miami they dropped Odoms and Butler to get a shot at Shaq on his last leg. Result trip to ECF and a Championship. You get Melo here and I'm willing to part with AR and Gallo for him if push came to shove. I understand a lot of you want to wait until he is a FA but if Denver trades him signed sealed and delivered to a team other than NYK you guys are going to kick yourself for passing up on an opportunity to get a high profile star that is going into his prime.

no they won't... they'll say Melo's overrated & start talking about how we absolutely must make a move to acquire Jerryd Bayless this summer because he's a "future top 5 player in the NBA"... it's ridiculous.

that's about the dumbest thing ever. Speak for yourself amigo.

nah... the dumbest thing ever is for the past year & a half to be willing to throw away draft picks & assets to clear $7M in cap space for a superstar player u don't even know you can get... but oh yeah, you were all on board for that plan right martin?