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Knixkik
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8/26/2010  8:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/26/2010  8:16 AM
What do you think the east look like as of right now? I think Milwaukee has been somewhat overrated and Indiana is now a major sleeper team. We should fall between a 5-7 seed with Atlanta and Milwaukee being the most comparable teams to us.

1. Miami 62-20
2. Orlando 55-27
3. Boston 52-30
4. Chicago 50-32
5. Atlanta 47-35
6. New York 44-38
7. Milwaukee 43-39
8. Indiana 38-44
9. Charlotte 37-45
10. Phila 34-48
11. Washington 32-50
12. Cleveland 30-52
13. New Jersey 30-52
14. Detroit 25-57
15. Toronto 22-60

Boston still beats Orlando to face Miami in the ECF but Miami wins series 4-2.

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Olbrannon
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8/26/2010  8:26 AM
Still don't see Atlanta as better after we owned the series against them. Did they upgrade the PG spot?
Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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8/26/2010  8:28 AM
Jennings and Bogut were really starting to click before Bogut got hurt. Might put them ahead of us.
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8/26/2010  8:37 AM
who's #s are these?

I think the standings are about right. I dont think Chi is that good. I have said the Knicks should be a 45 win team with a chance to be better.

Its going to be very interesting as we ended up with some guys on the team that have been coveted by various posters over the years.

If I were evaluating the Knicks and wasnt a fan of the team I would say they are going to be pretty good. Good defensive PG and solid floor general, all star bigman, good bench, shooters to stretch the D, and talented up and coming rotation guys. Some question marks with guys coming off injuries. A coach who has had some success in the league. 45 wins. Low side 42, high side 48

I think Washington is the dark horse team.

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8/26/2010  8:58 AM
the Knicks have a very solid chance to take the 4th seed.
I think people have been overating that Chicago team for the last 6 years at least.

I don't see how the Bucks are better.
Amare + Felton > Bogut + Jennings in my opinion.

Also, we have a better core in my opinion.
A/R, Gallo, Chandler > Ivey, Salmons, Redd, etc

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8/26/2010  9:55 AM
I'd put Milwaukee, Charlotte amd Philly ahead of us for right now. They have core's in place and some nice pieces.

Its a long season and injuries always factor in.

NOt sure Indy is a playoff caliber team yet.

How the season starts is not how it finishes.

Knicks have a learning curve ahead of them and we have to be patient. Few will.

THis team starts very different with new players and Utes with bigger roles than before.

Mike Redd is a big piece if he returns to form. Him and salmons proven themselves where our guys have yet to step up to that level. I say "YET" with expectations that they will.

No games been played yet, or have I missed somthing?

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8/26/2010  10:29 AM
I don't think the Fire Nation will win 60+ wins this year. I think they will win 52 games and seed 3. Orlando will be top seed winning 60+ games and Jameer Nelson having an all-star season. Boston will make their last push for a championship with these geezers and take the 2nd seed with at least 55 wins. Boozer makes a difference and ChiTown wins at least 50 games. NY will shock the world. Felton explodes and Amare becomes MVP candidate. The trio os Gallo/AR/Mayor takes the leap to stardom with the high octane SSOL offense. Larry and the Bobcats grind it out. Washington is the sleeper and sneaks up on everybody. Atlanta falters all the way to the 8th seed and risk being knocked out of the playoffs in the last weeks of the regular season and get a scare from the Bucks and Indiana.

1. Orlando - 60+ wins
2. Boston - 55 wins
3. Miami - 52 wins
4. Chicago - 50 wins
5. Knicks - 49 wins
6. Charlotte - 45 wins
7. Washington - 42 wins
8. Atlanta - 41 wins

Marv
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8/26/2010  10:35 AM
NYKBocker wrote:I don't think the Fire Nation will win 60+ wins this year. I think they will win 52 games and seed 3. Orlando will be top seed winning 60+ games and Jameer Nelson having an all-star season. Boston will make their last push for a championship with these geezers and take the 2nd seed with at least 55 wins. Boozer makes a difference and ChiTown wins at least 50 games. NY will shock the world. Felton explodes and Amare becomes MVP candidate. The trio os Gallo/AR/Mayor takes the leap to stardom with the high octane SSOL offense. Larry and the Bobcats grind it out. Washington is the sleeper and sneaks up on everybody. Atlanta falters all the way to the 8th seed and risk being knocked out of the playoffs in the last weeks of the regular season and get a scare from the Bucks and Indiana.

1. Orlando - 60+ wins
2. Boston - 55 wins
3. Miami - 52 wins
4. Chicago - 50 wins
5. Knicks - 49 wins
6. Charlotte - 45 wins
7. Washington - 42 wins
8. Atlanta - 41 wins

wow. hate's made you blind. they are gonna kick some butt like nobody's business. we gotta meet up offline and put some cabbage down on that prediction.

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8/26/2010  10:40 AM
I would put the Knicks around the 8-9-10 area 36-37 wins. I think we are overrating the Knicks. To many players are unknown commodities and there is no evidence as to know if some have turned the corner. Will Chandler, Gallo, AR improve. Will Mozgov be able to provide solid minutes at center position. You have Amare and the rest need to show what they have. I also have to put Felton in that group as he has to learn a new system and we need to see if he can master the system.
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8/26/2010  10:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/26/2010  10:41 AM
Marv wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I don't think the Fire Nation will win 60+ wins this year. I think they will win 52 games and seed 3. Orlando will be top seed winning 60+ games and Jameer Nelson having an all-star season. Boston will make their last push for a championship with these geezers and take the 2nd seed with at least 55 wins. Boozer makes a difference and ChiTown wins at least 50 games. NY will shock the world. Felton explodes and Amare becomes MVP candidate. The trio os Gallo/AR/Mayor takes the leap to stardom with the high octane SSOL offense. Larry and the Bobcats grind it out. Washington is the sleeper and sneaks up on everybody. Atlanta falters all the way to the 8th seed and risk being knocked out of the playoffs in the last weeks of the regular season and get a scare from the Bucks and Indiana.

1. Orlando - 60+ wins
2. Boston - 55 wins
3. Miami - 52 wins
4. Chicago - 50 wins
5. Knicks - 49 wins
6. Charlotte - 45 wins
7. Washington - 42 wins
8. Atlanta - 41 wins

wow. hate's made you blind. they are gonna kick some butt like nobody's business. we gotta meet up offline and put some cabbage down on that prediction.

Yeah, I'm with Marv on this one. Ledouche won 60 games last year with a bunch of scrubs. He ain't going to win that many
with 2 superstars? Come on, son.

Ok, maybe 1 superstar and that all-star fool, Bosh.

fishmike
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8/26/2010  10:51 AM
Miami will challenge to win 70 games. I really think they will. But we are talking regular season. If Bosh doesnt tail off during the 2nd half with a strained labia they will win boatloads of regular season games.

I do not think they are going to challenge for the title. They dont have the size, rebounding or defense to do that, they just dont. Bos/Orl will push them around and you cant win 7 game series that way.

If Miami stays healthy they should be a shoe in for the #1 seed.

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8/26/2010  10:51 AM
Panos wrote:
Marv wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I don't think the Fire Nation will win 60+ wins this year. I think they will win 52 games and seed 3. Orlando will be top seed winning 60+ games and Jameer Nelson having an all-star season. Boston will make their last push for a championship with these geezers and take the 2nd seed with at least 55 wins. Boozer makes a difference and ChiTown wins at least 50 games. NY will shock the world. Felton explodes and Amare becomes MVP candidate. The trio os Gallo/AR/Mayor takes the leap to stardom with the high octane SSOL offense. Larry and the Bobcats grind it out. Washington is the sleeper and sneaks up on everybody. Atlanta falters all the way to the 8th seed and risk being knocked out of the playoffs in the last weeks of the regular season and get a scare from the Bucks and Indiana.

1. Orlando - 60+ wins
2. Boston - 55 wins
3. Miami - 52 wins
4. Chicago - 50 wins
5. Knicks - 49 wins
6. Charlotte - 45 wins
7. Washington - 42 wins
8. Atlanta - 41 wins

wow. hate's made you blind. they are gonna kick some butt like nobody's business. we gotta meet up offline and put some cabbage down on that prediction.

Yeah, I'm with Marv on this one. Ledouche won 60 games last year with a bunch of scrubs. He ain't going to win that many
with 2 superstars? Come on, son.

I know it looks like my hate is clouding my judgement..(maybe ) but the team dynamics is totally different. Wade is an alpha dog same with LeDouche, they will take time to adjust and LeArseHole egocentric ways will cost them more than a couple of games. Everybody says injuries will weaken them. I disagree, I think having any of them go down will actually help their team dynamics. They also have a BIG bullseye every game. Every team will want to prove something and will go balls out to beat them. Wade and LeCrap is as close to Jordan/Pippen but Bosh is no Rodman. He is not even a Horace Grant.

Just in case, I will contact a mangkukulam in the philippines and put a hex on LeBron West.

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8/26/2010  10:57 AM
I really think that after MIA and Orlando..You can throw the rest of the teams in the air and see where they land. No one else seems to be that much better then the other.
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8/26/2010  11:27 AM
Olbrannon wrote:Still don't see Atlanta as better after we owned the series against them. Did they upgrade the PG spot?

Atlanta won 53 games last year and went to the 2nd Round. We are not at that level as currently constructed. These 45+ win predictions are wishful thinking.

fishmike
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8/26/2010  12:28 PM
iSergio wrote:
Olbrannon wrote:Still don't see Atlanta as better after we owned the series against them. Did they upgrade the PG spot?

Atlanta won 53 games last year and went to the 2nd Round. We are not at that level as currently constructed. These 45+ win predictions are wishful thinking.


actually the 45+ win predictions are quite accurate
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fishmike
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8/26/2010  12:30 PM
knicks1248 wrote:I really think that after MIA and Orlando..You can throw the rest of the teams in the air and see where they land. No one else seems to be that much better then the other.

Boston went to the finals last year, and could have won if their center was healthy (they got beat because of size + Gasol, NOT Kobe).

Now Boston adds Shaq and Jermaine Oneil. Two guys highly motivated to win a ring.

I do think Miami wins the #1 seed because of all the regular season wins they will add up but if Boston is healthy once the playoffs start they are the favorite to come out of the east. No ifs ands or butts or fruity drinks

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MS
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8/26/2010  12:32 PM
The Hawks head to head may not be a better team then the knicks right now. It's going to be much easier when you don't have the larry hughes, harrington types complaining the entire season.

We are better at every position this year and have a better bench.

The Hawks got a year older and that makes a difference with JJ and Bibby. They really need something from Teague this season. I think 5-7 is where the Knicks will end up.

And how on earth does anyone think the bobcats will be better. They lost felton and chandler and didn't add anything of note.

fishmike
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8/26/2010  12:37 PM
MS wrote:The Hawks head to head may not be a better team then the knicks right now. It's going to be much easier when you don't have the larry hughes, harrington types complaining the entire season.

We are better at every position this year and have a better bench.

The Hawks got a year older and that makes a difference with JJ and Bibby. They really need something from Teague this season. I think 5-7 is where the Knicks will end up.

And how on earth does anyone think the bobcats will be better. They lost felton and chandler and didn't add anything of note.

they added Kwame Brown. Havent you been paying attention?
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bernard
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8/26/2010  12:53 PM
Knixkik's predix seem pretty legits.

I like our team too -- maybe we're a little overoptimistic, but, come on, we've gotta be homers this time of year.

What I don't get is why people are saying Chicago is overrated. I like their core a lot. Rose is on the brink of superstardom, Dang is really solid, I even like Noah. I'm not a huge Boozer fan, but he gives them what they need -- scoring from up front. I think they've got a real good team. I think in the East there's a big drop-off from the top 3 (or 4, if Chicago gels) and the next 4 or 5 playoff teams. If we can get toward the top of the 2nd echelon, it would be a great year and we'd have something very solid to build on.

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8/26/2010  12:59 PM
Just looking at what we have this team should be able to get into the 4-6 spot. I don't think the Bucks are better or ATL for that matter. Some of these teams have been getting over due to the weakness of the East. The East is tougher now with Mia and NY coming in much stronger. I think this is gonna bring ATL down just a bit from 47 wins. I think we'll be battling it out with ATL and Chi for the 4,5 or 6 spot. After the top 3 it's a dog fight. Mia, Orl, Bos, then Chi or NY or ATL at 4. I think it's that close.
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