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Isiah's influence on Amare signing: NADA [article]
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martin
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8/19/2010  5:52 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2010/08/amare_isiah_had_nothing_to_do.html

Amar’e: Isiah Had Nothing to Do With Me Coming Here

All this week, for a future magazine story, we've been trailing and interviewing Amar'e Stoudemire, the most talented Knick in more than a decade (at least), as he spent his first full week in New York City. We spent time with him at the Knicks practice facility in Westchester, during a photo shoot at the Garden, at an unveiling of a billboard with his likeness in Times Square. We talked to him several times, most of which will be in the magazine story, but a brief tidbit from one interview, we felt, was too juicy to wait. It involves Isiah Thomas. Of course it does.

As you may remember, Isiah Thomas and Jim Dolan claim that Thomas's primary utility is recruitment; he's supposedly so respected and beloved by current players that they'll follow him anywhere, even places (like New York) that he doesn't officially work. Donnie Walsh even cited Thomas in the press conference welcoming Amar'e to town. And now Isiah supposedly has "inside info" that Carmelo Anthony is coming here.

So, about all that recruitment? We asked Amar'e what influence Isiah Thomas had on his decision to come to New York. Here's how that section of the conversation went.

Much has been made of Isiah Thomas's influence on bringing in free agents. How much did you talk with him during this process?

Well, no one could talk to us until the free agency period began.

I mean after that. Between the day free agency started and the day that you signed, did you talk to Isiah Thomas?
No. I didn't talk to him once.

Not once? He didn't influence you to come here?
I never talked with him once.

Wait, so have you even met him?
A while ago, I think.

So, to be clear, you didn't talk to him at ALL during this negotiating process with the Knicks?
Nope.

So, to be clear: Isiah Thomas's supposed recruiting prowess is being extolled even though the biggest free agent the Knicks have signed in decades never once talked to him and barely even knows him. And now we're supposed to believe Isiah has inside knowledge of Carmelo Anthony's actions. Makes sense. Totally does.

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8/19/2010  5:56 PM
And poor Donnie was made to thank this tool for his "help"...
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8/19/2010  5:59 PM
izybx wrote:And poor Donnie was made to thank this tool for his "help"...

Makes you question how much power he really has.

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8/19/2010  6:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/19/2010  6:01 PM
I thought so. As I wrote the other day, Isiah is going to do this for any big free agent that considers NY and try take the credit from Walsh, whoever he signs. Wish someone would interview him and bust him on that.
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8/20/2010  12:16 AM
Isiah ended the war in Iraq.
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8/20/2010  12:18 AM
It's sad that Amare has to be involved in covering up Zeke's contributions. But I have faith that Dolan and Isiah will figure out a way to get Isiah back where he belongs as GM/President/coach. This isn't over!
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8/20/2010  1:35 AM
BasketballJones wrote:It's sad that Amare has to be involved in covering up Zeke's contributions. But I have faith that Dolan and Isiah will figure out a way to get Isiah back where he belongs as GM/President/coach. This isn't over!

You have to read between the lines...

I mean after that. Between the day free agency started and the day that you signed, did you talk to Isiah Thomas?
No. I didn't talk to him once.
(...but I was always exchanging text messages with him.)

Not once? He didn't influence you to come here?
I never talked with him once.
(...but we exchanged email every day.)_

Wait, so have you even met him?
A while ago, I think.
So, to be clear, you didn't talk to him at ALL during this negotiating process with the Knicks?
Nope
(No, we communicated, but we never "talked.")

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8/20/2010  7:07 AM
Isiah can speak to young free agents without using his mouth. Telepathically.

Isiah is a Jedi.

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8/20/2010  9:52 AM
I may have missed something but where did I.Thomas say that he had a hand in bringing STAT to the Knicks? Or Walsh thanking him for bringing STAT to the Knicks?
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8/20/2010  10:53 AM
This is ****ing ridiculous! I didn't have a problem with Isiah as a person but now I am starting to dislike the mother****er. Why did he have to try and take credit for the Amare signing? Asshole!
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8/20/2010  11:17 AM
I dont remember him ever saying he played a roll... that was with Lebron
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8/20/2010  11:21 AM
fishmike wrote:I dont remember him ever saying he played a roll... that was with Lebron

Me neither, but someone wrote about it asking about Isiah.

But its fun to kick around Isiah again. Remember when Isiah was messing up we always could say:

"yeah, but its not as bad as Layden!!!"

Isiah is the new Layden. Walsh is doing just fine in our rebuild but when he messes up, or the perception is he was napping and missed somthing we can say "Not as bad as ISIAH!".

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8/20/2010  11:55 AM
fishmike wrote:I dont remember him ever saying he played a roll... that was with Lebron

This is were I got the info, not a stretch to believe he tried to steal some of the credit from Walsh

From the AP:

"He helped the team in that area during free agency, when the Knicks landed Amare Stoudemire. He also was sent to Ohio to talk to representatives from LeBron James, who eventually signed with the Miami Heat.

Walsh thanked Thomas during the news conference for Stoudemire, sparking reports that Thomas would return to the organization, perhaps even as general manager".

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/columns/story?id=5373671

"And to think I attended the press conference the Knicks held Thursday to officially introduce Stoudemire, clearly heard Knicks president Donnie Walsh publicly thank Isiah Thomas for helping to recruit Stoudemire to the Knicks, then repeated "Isiah Thomas?" -- the deposed Knicks president and coach who has been the head coach at Florida International University just 15 months? The same man who drove the Knicks franchise into the side of a mountain before Walsh replaced him? "

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8/20/2010  12:59 PM
Thank you James Dolan. No really, thank you for all of this.
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8/20/2010  1:40 PM
Nalod wrote:Isiah ended the war in Iraq.

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought he started it.

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8/21/2010  1:07 PM
izybx wrote:And poor Donnie was made to thank this tool for his "help"...

That's terrible that he had to do that. I just hope that Jimmy Dolan doesn't have an incompetent son so we can stop the vicious cycle when he goes, because it's obvious that he will never sell....

"I want to leave a legacy." ~ Isiah Thomas
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8/22/2010  6:46 PM
why would walsh thank thomas in press conference even though he had nothing to do with the signing..even if dolan told him to do so where is walsh's self respect..walsh only plans on working one or two more seasons and his refusal to lie to the press wouldnt be a fireable offense..have some self respect donnie
Isiah's influence on Amare signing: NADA [article]

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