Bippity10 wrote:I am against it but they have the right to build it. Why am I against it? Americans are always asked to be sensitive to other cultures and in this case I think it should be the other way around. A mosque will be a reminder for many people of this painful day. I think the builders of the mosque should be sensitive to that and build elsewhere. Similar to if a Christian group flew to a middle eastern country and killed 3000 people I do not believe it would be right for another christian group to then plant a church close to that location as well. Sensitivities should take over at some point.

If an atheist group carried out a terrorist act - should I then change how I live my life because someone may be offended by atheists? Why should people refrain from doing something within their rights because someone else associates them with an act they had nothing to do with?

The people building the Mosque are innocent and the association with terrorists is something that exists in other peoples minds.

Christians did enslave and kill thousands of people in the U.S. and many Christian church's encouraged slavery - sometimes on "biblical" grounds. No one believes Christians should not build church's here.

Nalod wrote:I back religious freedom and not indict a whole religion for the acts of the few.

America is held at a higher standard because we do too.

GustavBahler wrote:Religious intolerance gave us 9/11. Hard to show the terrorists that we are better than they are by responding in kind. We have already gutted our civil liberties because of this horrible event when they were supposed to hate us for our "freedoms".

The president recently declared that he can now order the execution of an American citizen anywhere in the world, even if its far away from the battlefield, without charges, evidence, or a trial. I would be more worried about what our government is doing than being unnerved by some Muslims putting up a cultural center.

Doesnt it say in the Koran that Mohammed owned slaves? Commited acts of violence and married a ten year old girl?

I say build the cultural center, because what I know about Islam doesnt endear me to the religion. Maybe I need to be enlightened some (that is not sarcasm)

arkrud wrote:

jimimou wrote:agree w nalod here - the acts of a few are not representative of the whole and do not warrant that the mosque be built somewhere else.

I think Synagogues should also be built in Mecca and Tehran and a couple of Churches in Cairo and Bagdad.
This buildings will bring stability and peace.
Welcome to the Liberals Wonderland!!!

as i think about this more, maybe it would be the beginning to more tolerance btwn religeons if what you suggest actually did happen. i know it's a fools proposition to think so in this day and age, but the way you start breaking down boundaries is to actually put your stereotypes aside and listen to another's point of view with an open mind. you cant do that though b/c religeon, like politics, is something that few tend to cross sides on no matter how powerful the argument from the other side is.

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Religious intolerance gave us 9/11. Hard to show the terrorists that we are better than they are by responding in kind. We have already gutted our civil liberties because of this horrible event when they were supposed to hate us for our "freedoms".

The president recently declared that he can now order the execution of an American citizen anywhere in the world, even if its far away from the battlefield, without charges, evidence, or a trial. I would be more worried about what our government is doing than being unnerved by some Muslims putting up a cultural center.

actually islamic fundamentalists brought us 9/11

Doesnt it say in the Koran that Mohammed owned slaves? Commited acts of violence and married a ten year old girl?

I say build the cultural center, because what I know about Islam doesnt endear me to the religion. Maybe I need to be enlightened some (that is not sarcasm)

You misread what I wrote fishmike, I said that we shouldn't respond in kind to their religious intolerance, not ours.

jimimou wrote:

arkrud wrote:

jimimou wrote:agree w nalod here - the acts of a few are not representative of the whole and do not warrant that the mosque be built somewhere else.

I think Synagogues should also be built in Mecca and Tehran and a couple of Churches in Cairo and Bagdad.
This buildings will bring stability and peace.
Welcome to the Liberals Wonderland!!!

as i think about this more, maybe it would be the beginning to more tolerance btwn religeons if what you suggest actually did happen. i know it's a fools proposition to think so in this day and age, but the way you start breaking down boundaries is to actually put your stereotypes aside and listen to another's point of view with an open mind. you cant do that though b/c religeon, like politics, is something that few tend to cross sides on no matter how powerful the argument from the other side is.

This shrine can be built anywhere in the world but they chose an area which is about a block from WTC. This is what history has always been about where ever there is conquest build a mosque. I grew up in India an know this to be fact where ever there is a major Hindu temple you can be sure right next to it or on top of you will see a Mosque. It represented conquest. Just as in Jerusalem. I beleive in religious tolerance but what the building of the mosque near WTC shows is that there is no tolerance from the side that is building the Mosque. I say build it elsewhere and pray for peace.

Vmart wrote:

jimimou wrote:

arkrud wrote:

jimimou wrote:agree w nalod here - the acts of a few are not representative of the whole and do not warrant that the mosque be built somewhere else.

I think Synagogues should also be built in Mecca and Tehran and a couple of Churches in Cairo and Bagdad.
This buildings will bring stability and peace.
Welcome to the Liberals Wonderland!!!

as i think about this more, maybe it would be the beginning to more tolerance btwn religeons if what you suggest actually did happen. i know it's a fools proposition to think so in this day and age, but the way you start breaking down boundaries is to actually put your stereotypes aside and listen to another's point of view with an open mind. you cant do that though b/c religeon, like politics, is something that few tend to cross sides on no matter how powerful the argument from the other side is.

This shrine can be built anywhere in the world but they chose an area which is about a block from WTC. This is what history has always been about where ever there is conquest build a mosque. I grew up in India an know this to be fact where ever there is a major Hindu temple you can be sure right next to it or on top of you will see a Mosque. It represented conquest. Just as in Jerusalem. I beleive in religious tolerance but what the building of the mosque near WTC shows is that there is no tolerance from the side that is building the Mosque. I say build it elsewhere and pray for peace.

thanks for that perspective v.

Markji wrote:

grillco wrote:I'm against it unless they're also putting a church and a temple there. In that case all religions should have the right to be included.

I like your idea of having a religious center there where all religions can have a place of worship in that location. That would open up the possibility for mutual understanding and respect.

Even better. Instead of any buildings dedicated to any single religion, make the people come together.