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BigSm00th
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8/5/2010  2:18 PM
Carmelo Anthony has averaged 20 points per game every season since he arrived in the NBA. This past campaign, he became the third-youngest player ever to reach the 10,000-point plateau, behind only Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. And next summer, he could hit the open market as an unrestricted free agent.

But despite all those gaudy point totals, the three-time All-Star may not even be worth the max deal a team would likely give him in 2011.


At first glance, Anthony seems like a member of the NBA's elite, largely due to his scoring prowess. But a deeper look at the points column and elsewhere in his game reveals a player who lives on an undeserved reputation more than his actual impact on wins.

It's tough to argue with his 28.2 points-per-game average in '09-10, but in the game of basketball, how a shooter gets his points is more meaningful than the raw number itself. To see that, we need to peel back the layers.

Let's first talk about Anthony's shot volume. It's not exactly a secret that 'Melo likes to shoot the rock, but his propensity to launch shots may raise some eyebrows. This past season, no player in the NBA took more shots per minute than Anthony -- not Kobe, not LeBron, not even scoring champ Kevin Durant.

It may seem obvious that a player worthy of 20 shots per game would have a healthy conversion rate. But in Anthony's case, that's far from the truth. Anthony, in reality, had a below-average field goal percentage (.458) this past season -- and his career percentage (.459) is no different. (The league average is .463.)

The sharp readers out there will point out that traditional field goal percentage doesn't reflect Anthony's shooting ability, since he launches a healthy dose of 3-pointers, which obviously count more on the scoreboard. That's true. But if you've been paying attention, you know Anthony is not a good shooter from beyond the arc, so that doesn't help his case. As a career .308 percent 3-point shooter, his shot from downtown ranks far below the norm (the average small forward shot .349 last season; Melo shot .316) and any progress he seemingly made in 2008-09, when he shot a career-high .371, disappeared. Even if we incorporate the added point bonus of a 3-pointer, the Syracuse product's shooting percentages are, at best, average.

It seems that, anyway we slice it, Anthony is a gunner at the core. His exceptional skill on offense is his ability to get his shot off, whether it's attacking the rim or through a patented pull-up jumper on the perimeter. But interestingly enough, Anthony got his shot blocked a whopping 109 times last season, which ranks as the second-highest total in the league, according to Hoopdata.com. Evidently, he doesn't lack perseverance.

Anthony's case illustrates a fundamental problem in conventional basketball analysis: scoring averages don't reflect efficiency. It's true that Anthony scored 28.2 points per game last season, but it's also true that no player missed more shots as often as Anthony did. Feel free to credit his skill but also pay attention his lofty shot volume and playing time.

And that's before we consider the disguise of team pace. Since Anthony entered the league, the Denver Nuggets have averaged 95.9 possessions per game, which places them as the third -fastest squad in the NBA over that period of time (and just a fraction behind the high-octane Phoenix Suns). Over that same span, the Nuggets have squeezed out an extra four possessions per game when compared to the average NBA team. Do the math, and the Nuggets have enjoyed nearly 2,000 extra possessions above the norm since Anthony joined the NBA. That's a ton of extra opportunities that can pad the per-game stats used as measuring sticks.

So after stripping out the inflationary effect of fast pace and boiling down Anthony's numbers to a per possession level, his scoring punch looks even more pedestrian. How pedestrian? Anthony's career offensive rating, an efficiency measure that calculates how many points a player produces per 100 possessions he uses, checks out at 107, which sits right at the league average. For reference, 2003 draft-mates James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh have earned 114, 111, and 113 lifetime offensive ratings, respectively.

Before we prematurely call Anthony an average player, there is something to be said for the burden of trust. Not every player can still perform while shouldering the heavy scoring responsibility that Anthony has endured. But the Nuggets have probably allowed Anthony to shoot far too often if efficiency -- and winning -- is their goal. In fact, last season Melo was only sixth on his own team in ORtg (110), trailing far behind other legit weapons like Nene (124), Chauncey Billups (120) and Ty Lawson (118).

Aside from scoring, Anthony doesn't have many other bankable weapons as a player. His rebounding (career 6.2 rpg) is only slightly better than what we'd expect from a small forward, and he doesn't create opportunities for his teammates like Paul Pierce, Wade and James can. Furthermore, he hasn't shown the intensity and dedication on the defensive end that you'd want from a max player.

In the end, Anthony's game demonstrates why it's important to strip away the biases that color our perceptions of elite players. In Anthony's case, the excessive shot volume, his team's stat-padding tempo and the lack of a true 3-point game makes his 28.2 ppg seem far less impressive than his sparkling reputation would suggest.

If anything, it's time we moved on from per-game statistics to evaluate our players. Millions of dollars are wasted every year basing player value on the archaic statistics that teams used half a century ago. And someone will surely overpay Anthony and offer him a max contract -- just look at the deals Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay got.

If the New York Knicks, rumored to be the favorites to land Melo if he decides to leave Denver, are expecting salvation from Anthony next summer, they're going to be very disappointed with their investment. It would be a much a wiser move to throw that cash toward the pursuit of Chris Paul, a real max player.

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8/5/2010  2:23 PM
Healthy Chris Paul is light years better for a team than Melo.

But who is better than Melo in the league?

Kobe
LeDouche
Durant
Wade
Deron Williams

and

??

Amare? Bosh? JJ ? Westbrook? Rose?

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8/5/2010  2:24 PM
LOL did you read the article? the writer's point is he's a volume shooter who's numbers are inflated. he doesn't rebound, doesn't play D, and he's not an efficient scorer.
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8/5/2010  2:36 PM
I read the whole thing. What I'm curious about is..where does that rank Melo..even in terms of SFs in the league.

Other than Lebron or Durant is there a better SF in the league?

Does Gallos ceiling come close to where Melo is now? Will Melo improve or is this just what he is?

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8/5/2010  2:47 PM
all they had to do was point out pre billups/karl == 1st round exits with him as the leader. maybe he will step it up this year, however i would for sure rather have cp3.
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8/5/2010  2:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/5/2010  2:52 PM
Ok, points noted, but the article fails to mention that it's tougher to maintain a high shooting percentage when you shoot at such a high volume. He's not one of the top 5 players in the league, but he's probably in the top 10. This article solely focused on the negative and makes him sound average. There were some points there, but it's just silly one-sided presentation that makes this article a serious failure.

I do agree that he should shoot less threes.

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8/5/2010  3:00 PM
More then 75% of the league is over paid..more then 75% of athletes are over paid.. its more then individule statistics that make a players worth.. Why is bosh a max player when he hadn't done nothing special for his previous team..they .500 in games he didn't play..you give guys max contracts because they put fans in the building as well
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8/5/2010  4:01 PM
i'd still want melo on the knicks, just thought this was an interesting article. the writer loses credibility by saying nene is an efficient offensive player, totally discounting how much melo gets to the line, etc. that being said, melo could hit the boards a little bit more. he's got size as a 3, he should get more rebounds. i think melo is a top 10 player, just thought this article was interesting.
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8/5/2010  4:06 PM
I would like to know how many wins a melo-less denver team would win
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8/5/2010  4:11 PM
knicks1248 wrote:I would like to know how many wins a melo-less denver team would win

i would be more concerned with how many playoff games he can help a team win. he doesnt feel like a closer. durant has that it seems or so we will see. anthony hasnt really been crazy good at guiding den in the playoffs in comparison to the stats he produces during the reg season.

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8/5/2010  4:19 PM
If you are telling me that you want to see about signing anyone from the 2012 FA class (Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard), then I would give credence to an argument against Melo. I agree the statistics of his shooting percentage make him a high volume shooter-- but then again, Melo is used to having to shoot in double teams and other bad shooting situations as well. To deny Melo is a top talent is just a fool's argument.
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8/5/2010  4:23 PM
like ive been saying, CP3 is a much better fit for our needs than Melo. if there's anyone we should have our sights set on, it's CP3.
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8/5/2010  4:30 PM
TMS wrote:like ive been saying, CP3 is a much better fit for our needs than Melo. if there's anyone we should have our sights set on, it's CP3.

My only problem with CP3 is that we now have Felton. Two years from now when CP3 is a FA, I'll take a flyer on Paul, no problem. 6 months from now, if Felton is really not up to snuff or if Felotn is included in a trade for a healthy Chris Paul, ok. But right now, I'd like to give Felton a chance to see why he was picked 5th overall behind Paul and Williams.

I won't cry if we get CP3, but I don't understand the use of resources.

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8/5/2010  4:36 PM
How many guys on denver can really shoot other then the streaky JR and billups...kmart, chris anderson, nene.

Did the writer forget to mention the 8ft pg he avgs..thats impact

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8/5/2010  4:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/5/2010  4:41 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
TMS wrote:like ive been saying, CP3 is a much better fit for our needs than Melo. if there's anyone we should have our sights set on, it's CP3.

My only problem with CP3 is that we now have Felton. Two years from now when CP3 is a FA, I'll take a flyer on Paul, no problem. 6 months from now, if Felton is really not up to snuff or if Felotn is included in a trade for a healthy Chris Paul, ok. But right now, I'd like to give Felton a chance to see why he was picked 5th overall behind Paul and Williams.

I won't cry if we get CP3, but I don't understand the use of resources.

i don't get the hangup. CP3 is a much better player than Felton, u don't have to see Felton play this year to realize this
At worst, if we get CP3 and Felton is still here, then u have an able backup as insurance in case CP3's knee gives out. to pass on CP3 because we already have an inferior player in Ray doesn't make sense to me. that's like passing on trading for A-Rod cuz the Yankees already had Aaron Boone.

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8/5/2010  4:40 PM
Melo is a second tier all star. It's always been that way. This isn't a shocker.
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8/5/2010  4:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/5/2010  4:49 PM
TMS wrote:like ive been saying, CP3 is a much better fit for our needs than Melo. if there's anyone we should have our sights set on, it's CP3.

Word. My main reason for hesitating on Melo is that he would essentially displace Gallo from the starting lineup. We have yet to see Gallo's ceiling and the sky's the limit for the kid. As to fit, clearly a PG like CP3 would enhance the games of every other player on the team, which is far more valuable than anything Melo will offer.

Still, CP3 would be a risk for obvious reasons (i.e., injuries) and less-obvious reasons (i.e., to pry him from NO we would have to take OK4). If he proves he is healthy, I sure hope Donnie manages to pry him loose by using Curry's expiring, Felton, Chandler, Douglas, Turiaf or some combination of players not named Gallo or Randolph.

It could happen. If we score CP3, we will not try to land Melo as we will have committed to Gallo. I would love to see this starting 5 by the deadline:

1. CP3
2. Buke
3. Gallo
4. Stat
5. Randolph

With Walker, OK4, etc. off the bench.

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8/5/2010  5:10 PM
if randolph and gallo improve or show enough signs of "getting it", why would we need anthony? cp3 is a bit off so there is time to get some ideas on how felton will perform as well.
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8/5/2010  5:17 PM
Deron Williams tops my Christmas List over CP3 and Melo both.

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8/5/2010  5:21 PM
Carmelo Anthony= Al Harrington!?!?!?

In defense of Melo- he did will Syracuse to a title- and when I've watched him play, he's seemed like a gamer/winner.

But then I thought that of Harrington too.

What about the way Carmelo is being used? We are talking about George Karl who is sorta in the Don Nelson vein of coaching.

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