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DurzoBlint
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8/4/2010  2:22 PM
http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/08/04/sources-lebrons-team-wanted-new-york/

don't have any words for this yet but, since I did not see it posted, thought I would share.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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8/4/2010  2:28 PM
Sources: Lebron’s Team Wanted New York
By Tommy Dee on Aug 04, 2010, 12:51 pm

Yes, it’s time to move on. But I’d be remiss if I didn’t inform Knicks fans of just how close Lebron to NY came to happening.
The days leading up to the “Decision” were very hectic, and multiple sources who I’ve talked to over the past few weeks have filled me in on just how close James came to playing for the Knicks. In fact, his people, most notably Maverick Carter, were pushing New York tremendously contrary to pretty much every report that was made throughout the process. Ultimately, a source tells me, Lebron decided against the advice of his team and “decided to play with his friends.”

“Lebron’s team realized that NY was the fit and they were pushing him hard there. James had basically decided and contacted Amar’e Stoudemire to tell him to get ready,” the source said. “In the end, Lebron went over the heads of his team and chose Miami.”

On the Saturday before, we reported that the Knicks’ had a third meeting with Lebron’s people in Ohio. Two of the three were reported elsewhere, the third was immediately refuted. That meeting that including Scott O’Neil and Glen Grunwald was to iron out the numbers and finalize a deal to NY. When the Knicks finalized a deal for Amar’e Stoudemire Monday they had their first max player set, setting the stage to add another in James who seemed excited at the notion.

“I’m telling you that Amar’e swore Lebron would be a Knick 48 hours before the decision,” another source added.

To take it a step further, a source with close ties to Madison Square Garden told me a week after the decision that “employees were informed that Lebron was going to be at MSG Wednesday (July 7th) in the afternoon” and to “keep their mouths shut.”

Lebron never showed.

Moreover, a real estate agent who contacted TKB, said that James was very much interested in a posh pad in lower Manhattan but took his name out of consideration only to re-contact and restart negotiations on Tuesday.

While I could never confirm a meeting with the Knicks, TKB reported both Carter and Randy Mims were in town on Wednesday and that’s when all the steam of Lebron deciding on NY came to a head. Newsday reported first that Greenwich, CT was going to be the location for the announcement. It was also the same day that Jared Dudley and Chad Ocho Cinco went live that James was going to NY. Dudley and Stoudemire were friends and teammates in Phoenix. James was in town for Carmelo Anthony’s wedding, we were told, but after choosing Miami, he flew to South Beach and then heading back north after he, Wade and Chris Bosh were introduced. To this day Greenwich, CT still doesn’t make a shred of sense to be the location for a decision. Yes, the charity that received a very generous donation from the ad proceeds was the Boys and Girls Club, but the organization was founded in Hartford, CT, and it’s national headquarters, at one point, was in Atlanta. If Lebron were in town for Melo’s wedding, why not make the decision in Miami and fly to NY on Friday, which he ultimately ended up doing? Why not hold the announcement at ESPN in Bristol, or at the Hartford location?

Why Greenwich?

What happened on Wednesday that caused all the momentum of New York to shift to Miami?

I never thought that James and Chris Bosh were a tandem, but I was wrong. Bosh was always the X-Factor, I’m told, ultimately in James’ decision for this reason. Bosh had already committed to Miami to play with Wade weeks before, but wasn’t interested in taking less than a max contract thus eliminating the possibility of a “Big 3.” He didn’t feel as if leaving money on the table was in his best interest because he couldn’t make up the difference in Miami in endorsements. But during the day Wednesday when all the focus shifted to New York, Bosh understood he was the hold up and that James would choose Miami if all three took pay cuts. They realized that Pat Riley was the key to them winning multiple titles. He agreed and that’s when word started to spread that Miami was, indeed, the destination. James was in.

Lebron’s team tried to change his mind at the last minute all day Thursday, pleading with him about legacy and how Miami wouldn’t be a better fit than New York, but in the end James felt the need to chase titles with his friends.

But, as we’ve told you here throughout the whole process, New York was very much in play up until Wednesday, regardless of what the national media led you to believe.

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8/4/2010  2:45 PM
Oops..I just gave my opinion on this on the Chandler thread. I didn't see this thread otherwise I would've posted here. My bad Durzo.
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8/4/2010  3:21 PM
Well, I take back all the harsh stuff I thought about Maverick and Lebron's "team". They tried to do the right thing and the little boy inside Lebron decided he'd rather play in the sandbox. Go figure. I've moved on and it will be special to beat down Miami in a Finals game seven once we complete our rebuild (i.e., Melo? CP3?)

Let's go Knicks!

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8/4/2010  3:44 PM
Great, his inner circle is already coming up with an escape strategy if the ship starts to go down in Miami. If these people really were loyal to Bron, this would never be in the media.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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8/4/2010  4:10 PM
This reminds me of some lovin' I almost got. It really does nothing for you
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8/4/2010  4:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/4/2010  4:37 PM
i don't really believe too much of what tommy d reports... but this story would explain some of the buzz coming out on wednesday before the decision. of course, this is all meaningless now.

i did feel he was coming here on the tuesday and wednesday leading up to the Decision (which happened thurs)...

think of how much better balanced the league would be if this had gone down?

NY: Lebron and Amare
MIA: Wade and Bosh
Bos: the aging big 3 + Rondo
LAL: Kobe and Pau
OKC: Durant and Westbrook
CHI: DRose, Noah, Boozer
ORL: Dwight and Jameer and Wince-sanity


ah well. stupid lebron. NY would have been the best possible move for him, legacy-wise, career-wise, brand-wise and basketball-wise. too many conflicting agendas got in the way. i still feel like he threw away his career on this. sure, they'll win, but what is he? super james worthy to wade's magic and bosh's kareem?

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8/4/2010  4:39 PM
They gonna leave Lebron in the whore house with white powder on his nose, a smack needle in his arm and all kinds of new friends growing on his johnson with a dose of ambien and TMZ photo crew one day.

Ego pulling Lebron. His life.

Article makes sense. Spike, Dudley, Ocho, and other signs looks like Knicks were the choice.

So his crew was ok? Whats done is done.

Bosh got less than max. Funny.

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8/4/2010  4:43 PM
If we can get Melo without giving up any of our core, I'll be thrilled.

Not sure how I feel about giving up the core for CP3... though I'm sure we'll hear stories all year.

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8/4/2010  4:52 PM
i don't get it...

how does james contact amar'e and tell him to "get ready," yet it was he who wanted to go to miami against his "team?"

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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8/4/2010  5:09 PM
crzymdups wrote:If we can get Melo without giving up any of our core, I'll be thrilled.

Not sure how I feel about giving up the core for CP3... though I'm sure we'll hear stories all year.

Honestly, in some ways Anthony is better than Lebron or Wade. He is a better pure shooter than Lebron and he is a more physical presence and healthier than Wade. You add Anthony to this team and if Randolph, Gallo, Chandler, and Walker can take their games up another level, this Knicks team would be no worse than 3rd best in the league.

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8/4/2010  5:10 PM
PresIke wrote:i don't get it...

how does james contact amar'e and tell him to "get ready," yet it was he who wanted to go to miami against his "team?"

Because James, like the bitch he is, flip-flopped once it came down to decision time.

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8/4/2010  5:12 PM
TheGame wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If we can get Melo without giving up any of our core, I'll be thrilled.

Not sure how I feel about giving up the core for CP3... though I'm sure we'll hear stories all year.

Honestly, in some ways Anthony is better than Lebron or Wade. He is a better pure shooter than Lebron and he is a more physical presence and healthier than Wade. You add Anthony to this team and if Randolph, Gallo, Chandler, and Walker can take their games up another level, this Knicks team would be no worse than 3rd best in the league.

i dont see that in anthony... he hasnt taken den anywhere as the main focal point. the best den has done was after they got a real leader in billups.

id much rather get cp3.

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8/4/2010  5:26 PM
sidsanders wrote:
TheGame wrote:
crzymdups wrote:If we can get Melo without giving up any of our core, I'll be thrilled.

Not sure how I feel about giving up the core for CP3... though I'm sure we'll hear stories all year.

Honestly, in some ways Anthony is better than Lebron or Wade. He is a better pure shooter than Lebron and he is a more physical presence and healthier than Wade. You add Anthony to this team and if Randolph, Gallo, Chandler, and Walker can take their games up another level, this Knicks team would be no worse than 3rd best in the league.

i dont see that in anthony... he hasnt taken den anywhere as the main focal point. the best den has done was after they got a real leader in billups.

id much rather get cp3.

agree w/you sid... i think CP3 makes much more sense for the team we're trying to build.

as for Melo & Lebron, the only thing that Melo does better than Lebron is shoot free throws... he is NOT a better shooter than Lebron, contrary to what you may believe... Lebron's career 3 pt shooting % is actually higher than Melo's... Lebron trumps Melo in every single category, both offensive & defensive.

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8/4/2010  6:09 PM
Nalod wrote:They gonna leave Lebron in the whore house with white powder on his nose, a smack needle in his arm and all kinds of new friends growing on his johnson with a dose of ambien and TMZ photo crew one day.

Ego pulling Lebron. His life.

Article makes sense. Spike, Dudley, Ocho, and other signs looks like Knicks were the choice.

So his crew was ok? Whats done is done.

Bosh got less than max. Funny.


Exactly.
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8/4/2010  6:55 PM
ATrain wrote:
Nalod wrote:They gonna leave Lebron in the whore house with white powder on his nose, a smack needle in his arm and all kinds of new friends growing on his johnson with a dose of ambien and TMZ photo crew one day.

Ego pulling Lebron. His life.

Article makes sense. Spike, Dudley, Ocho, and other signs looks like Knicks were the choice.

So his crew was ok? Whats done is done.

Bosh got less than max. Funny.


Exactly.

It's human nature to want to know the truth, especially when it concerns great disappointment following great expectation.

Too much smoke about James coming to the Knicks from too many sources for there not to have been a fire burning somewhere. This story has a certain ring of truth to it, however painful it might seem now.

The most ironic thing, besides LeBron not being able consummate the Miami marriage because Bosh didn't want to to take less $$ (a max contract) than he had been looking for, was that the "king," instead of being a leader, chose to follow.

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8/4/2010  7:20 PM
Well, I'm happy to know that some of us saw through the BS that said we were out of it continuously and we had no shot, etc... which obviously was not true. It was annoying reading how the Knicks blew it in the intro presentation. Just ridiculous media making up lies that everyone was eating up. It's also good to know that clearly it wasn't simply in the fans mind that NY is a premiere place to play. I don't care about LeBron, he wimped out. But, this article has a lot of positives. Good read.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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