nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:if u think Ray Felton would average 16 & 10 in an MDA system, what kinds of numbers do u think CP3 could put up running the P&R w/the best P&R bigman in the NBA on every possession? to allow a player who is as yet a huge question mark like Anthony Randolph prevent you from acquiring the top PG in the game is foolish IMO.

Suppose they want Gallo? It's not just about AR. Also Amare played with a pretty good 2 time MVP PG before and it didn't mean a title. Perhaps we could take the approach that having the skills of AR or Gallo enhances the team in ways that would be of more value than a pairing that would be much like Nash/Amar'e. We really could use AR's shotblocking and energy as well as his length on D. Gallo's ability to stretch the floor is a great complement to Amar'e inside. What we're likely to get from Felton would be a solid PG not too far off from the best PG's in the league.

considering your favorite coach has only found success in his NBA coaching career while coaching a team w/a top notch PG & a topnotch bigman running the P&R in his offense, i would think you of all people would be in favor of getting CP3 to pair up with Amare... Ray Felton ain't taking this team anywhere, you can bank on that... we signed him to a 2 year contract for a reason.

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:if u think Ray Felton would average 16 & 10 in an MDA system, what kinds of numbers do u think CP3 could put up running the P&R w/the best P&R bigman in the NBA on every possession? to allow a player who is as yet a huge question mark like Anthony Randolph prevent you from acquiring the top PG in the game is foolish IMO.

Suppose they want Gallo? It's not just about AR. Also Amare played with a pretty good 2 time MVP PG before and it didn't mean a title. Perhaps we could take the approach that having the skills of AR or Gallo enhances the team in ways that would be of more value than a pairing that would be much like Nash/Amar'e. We really could use AR's shotblocking and energy as well as his length on D. Gallo's ability to stretch the floor is a great complement to Amar'e inside. What we're likely to get from Felton would be a solid PG not too far off from the best PG's in the league.

considering your favorite coach has only found success in his NBA coaching career while coaching a team w/a top notch PG & a topnotch bigman running the P&R in his offense, i would think you of all people would be in favor of getting CP3 to pair up with Amare... Ray Felton ain't taking this team anywhere, you can bank on that... we signed him to a 2 year contract for a reason.

I'm not saying that CP3 wouldn't be successful, but there's obviously more to the mixture than having a premier PG and PF who can run P&R. Stockton/Malone and Nash/Amare ran it like few others ever have, but it can be argued that it has it's limitations. I think Felton can run the P&R well enough, but keeping the 2 kids could turn out to be of more overall value in terms of team composition.

Also MDA's offense isn't really meant to run quite like it was under Nash or perhaps with CP3. Ball dominant guards aren't what the system is about. It just worked great cuz Nash was so good at what he did. MDA went with it and used it to perfection. He's not a stiff coach as many believe. He's very flexible in how he can use talent. I think Cp3 would be exciting and I wouldn't say no to him coming. I just think there's something to be said about keeping AR and Gallo and letting Felton run the show with a team that has length and skill few other teams have. Both Gallo and AR could be on the brink of busting out. A non ego PG like Felton would allow these other players to shine IMO. Not that CP3 wouldn't, just that Felton would more easily defer to his teammates. In a team concept that could work when you have other great players on the floor. like I said it's a tough call.

CP3 to knicks
AR + Felton + Chan + Turiaf + Timofey + picks + cash can get it done

I'd do it. I hate to give up AR, but you need to maximize Amare ASAP.

BRIGGS wrote:

TMS wrote:if u think Ray Felton would average 16 & 10 in an MDA system, what kinds of numbers do u think CP3 could put up running the P&R w/the best P&R bigman in the NBA on every possession? to allow a player who is as yet a huge question mark like Anthony Randolph prevent you from acquiring the top PG in the game is foolish IMO.

We already have felton. Chris paul has won one playoff series in 5 years and they had a LOT of talent on that team. Dont get me wrong I would take him--but not at the price it would cost NOW.

Right now NO will want 3.00 on the 1.00 + he is coming off knee surgery and has not played

D walsh was patient for 2010 I do think he over did it for the little moves we couldve made--like I wouldve bought hat 25 pick for whiteside and saved the money on the russian
I cant see him spending 3.00 for the 1.00 on Paul when he could get him free of charge.

i don't think NO will want 3.00 on the 1.00, but they'd want talent, there's no question about it... AR would be a very small price to pay to get a talent like CP3... we'd be the ones getting the better value in that trade off, make no mistake about it.

BRIGGS wrote:

TMS wrote:if u think Ray Felton would average 16 & 10 in an MDA system, what kinds of numbers do u think CP3 could put up running the P&R w/the best P&R bigman in the NBA on every possession? to allow a player who is as yet a huge question mark like Anthony Randolph prevent you from acquiring the top PG in the game is foolish IMO.

We already have felton. Chris paul has won one playoff series in 5 years and they had a LOT of talent on that team. Dont get me wrong I would take him--but not at the price it would cost NOW.

Right now NO will want 3.00 on the 1.00 + he is coming off knee surgery and has not played

D walsh was patient for 2010 I do think he over did it for the little moves we couldve made--like I wouldve bought hat 25 pick for whiteside and saved the money on the russian
I cant see him spending 3.00 for the 1.00 on Paul when he could get him free of charge.

The 2008 Hornets won 56 games in a stacked Western Conference, and took the San Antonio Spurs to 7 games in the semi-finals.

Paul's supporting cast was mainly Tyson Chandler, David West, and an aging Peja Stojakovic. The rest were scrubs. I'm not sure how you can say that team was loaded with talent.

We could easily replicate the 2008 Hornets, except better and younger. Amare > West, Gallinari > 31 yr old Peja, Okafor and Chandler's a wash. Plus, we're not New Orleans and can actually attract more FA's and spend to our heart's content.

Paul/Amare/Gallo can be the start of a real contender, and we can't risk that just to see if Randolph taps into his potential.

I'm surprised that one year on the bench has made people forget how ridiculously good Chris Paul is. And how we're pinning our hopes on a PG who's averaged 13 ppg, 6 apg, and 41% FG for his career. Don't get me wrong, Felton should improve under D'Antoni (maybe even to 15 ppg and 9 apg), but he's still no Chris Paul.

I package Randolph and Chandler in a heartbeat. Chandler is nothing special to me at all. Built like a freakin' tank, he still can barely make it 60 games without getting injured? For a player whose whole game is based on athleticism? Yeah....good luck wit' dat!

Randolph, Chandler, Bukke, Turiaf for Paul.