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Olbrannon
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7/18/2010  11:29 AM
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Speaking of models, we hear a lot about how much better the Knicks did so much better than the Nets this summer. Really?

From what we can tell, the Knicks will start one All-Star (with problem knees) in Amar'e Stoudemire; two young 6'11" swingmen, Danilo Gallinari and Anthony Randolph, with yet unrealized potential; a little-known Russian rookie named Timofey Mozgov; and Raymond Felton, a 6'1" point guard so good the Bobcats gave up on him. While we can't diminish Stoudemire's skills nor Randolph or Gallinari's possibilities, we look at the two key positions: point guard and center, and wonder why Knick fans are so excited, why the Garden is sold out. We started following Mozgov when Andrei Kirilenko mentioned him as the next Russian NBA player last fall, right around the time Prokhorov agreed to buy the team. After a solid performance in the European championships in 2009, Russian fans expected big things from the physically strong, athletically gifted Mozgov. He didn't deliver for his Russian league team, Khimki. Reports in the Knick-centric New York sports pages that Khimki may have been "hiding" him smacks of, how do we say this diplomatically, bull----. Khimki is a contender in both the Russian Superleague and Euroleague. Their coach is also the coach of the Spanish National Team. They like to win, not hide assets. As for Felton, the Bobcats' Larry Brown thought so highly of him in 2008 that he begged Michael Jordan to rescind his choice of Brook Lopez as the 'Cats' draft pick and instead go for D.J. Augustin, a real point guard.

Not to mention the Knicks' bench. Other than Chandler (who they're trying to trade and who needs surgery), Rony Turiaf and maybe Toney Douglas, it is underwhelming. There's Kelenna Abuzeike, Billy Walker and their three second round choices, Andy Rautins, Landry Fields and Jerome Jordan. Am I missing someone? Oh yes, Eddy Curry who Mozgov's agent was told wouldn't be getting any minutes this season. All that hoo-hah about Mozgov choosing the Knicks because they are further along in rebuilding? Nope. It was about Mozgov being promised big minutes.

We're not saying the Nets will do considerably better than the Knicks. But we are saying that as currently constituted, the Knicks ain't that much better.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/7/17/1574548/netsdaily-off-season-report-14

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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7/18/2010  11:38 AM
That is usually a pretty good site but that just isn't accurate in my opinion. I think Walsh has had an offseason like Thorn's second in NJ when he traded for Kidd, and traded Griffith for Jefferson, Collins and another first rounder who I don't recall. If I am a Net fan I am extremely disappointed with everything done this offseason except for getting Favors and Avery. I especially do not like the Billy King hire or the use of their cap space.
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Ira
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7/18/2010  12:04 PM
He thinks Mozgov is going to start? That alone makes his opinion on the Knicks useless.
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7/18/2010  12:06 PM
Travis Outlaw baby!!! The Nets signings this offseason were pretty awful, except for Morrow.

This guy posting his projected Knicks starting lineup shows how he knows nothing at all.

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7/18/2010  12:21 PM
Bring it, mofo.
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7/18/2010  12:25 PM
Maybe written with a little urging from Prokhorov...nyet?
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7/18/2010  1:18 PM
Paladin55 wrote:Maybe written with a little urging from Prokhorov...nyet?

Sounds like it, probably told him he would be blogging from siberia if he didn't.
Not really impressed with the moves prokhorov has made so far except for hiring Avery.
Johnson will help them get better until he drives everyone batsh.t crazy and gets fired.

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7/18/2010  1:33 PM
Dudes a fan. sounds about as objective as we do at times.

both teams should be better thats for sure!

Nyet fans gotta be pumped about the future. New owner, new attitude goves reason for hope.

If no lebron now then they are about two years from now. Newark gonna be quiet for a while. They just need to get young assets, keep cap space and build it young.

Games with rivals should be better going forward.

Knicks have to worry about spies in the house. That russian don't phuch around!

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7/18/2010  1:41 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:Maybe written with a little urging from Prokhorov...nyet?

Sounds like it, probably told him he would be blogging from siberia if he didn't.
Not really impressed with the moves prokhorov has made so far except for hiring Avery.
Johnson will help them get better until he drives everyone batsh.t crazy and gets fired.

hmmm...wonder if some NY coach gets fired after losing the series to the other NY team this year.

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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7/18/2010  1:41 PM
Nalod wrote:Dude's a fan. Sounds about as objective as we do at times.

Yup.

No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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7/18/2010  1:50 PM
Olbrannon wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:Maybe written with a little urging from Prokhorov...nyet?

Sounds like it, probably told him he would be blogging from siberia if he didn't.
Not really impressed with the moves prokhorov has made so far except for hiring Avery.
Johnson will help them get better until he drives everyone batsh.t crazy and gets fired.

hmmm...wonder if some NY coach gets fired after losing the series to the other NY team this year.

Who knows? Dolan doesn't like being shown up and that billboard really got under his skin. When
you tell Jay-Z that its making your employees "uncomfortable" you pretty much have told the world
that he has gotten to you. They would probably meet in the later rounds if at all so Dolan might
be happy that they got that far. If the Knicks got swept, that might change things.

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7/18/2010  2:00 PM
Prokhorov should just go ahead and buy the Knicks too. Is there a law that prevents ownership of 2 teams at the same time?
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Marv
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7/18/2010  2:13 PM
ramtour420 wrote:Prokhorov should just go ahead and buy the Knicks too. Is there a law that prevents ownership of 2 teams at the same time?

man it's all palin's fault. she didn't guard that border!

kam77
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7/18/2010  2:33 PM
ramtour420 wrote:Prokhorov should just go ahead and buy the Knicks too. Is there a law that prevents ownership of 2 teams at the same time?

He tried buying the Knicks first and admittedly settled for NJ. The Dolans had no interest in selling the team.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/18/2010  2:45 PM
Olbrannon wrote:
Knick Knocks

Speaking of models, we hear a lot about how much better the Knicks did so much better than the Nets this summer. Really?

From what we can tell, the Knicks will start one All-Star (with problem knees) in Amar'e Stoudemire; two young 6'11" swingmen, Danilo Gallinari and Anthony Randolph, with yet unrealized potential; a little-known Russian rookie named Timofey Mozgov; and Raymond Felton, a 6'1" point guard so good the Bobcats gave up on him. While we can't diminish Stoudemire's skills nor Randolph or Gallinari's possibilities, we look at the two key positions: point guard and center, and wonder why Knick fans are so excited, why the Garden is sold out. We started following Mozgov when Andrei Kirilenko mentioned him as the next Russian NBA player last fall, right around the time Prokhorov agreed to buy the team. After a solid performance in the European championships in 2009, Russian fans expected big things from the physically strong, athletically gifted Mozgov. He didn't deliver for his Russian league team, Khimki. Reports in the Knick-centric New York sports pages that Khimki may have been "hiding" him smacks of, how do we say this diplomatically, bull----. Khimki is a contender in both the Russian Superleague and Euroleague. Their coach is also the coach of the Spanish National Team. They like to win, not hide assets. As for Felton, the Bobcats' Larry Brown thought so highly of him in 2008 that he begged Michael Jordan to rescind his choice of Brook Lopez as the 'Cats' draft pick and instead go for D.J. Augustin, a real point guard.

Not to mention the Knicks' bench. Other than Chandler (who they're trying to trade and who needs surgery), Rony Turiaf and maybe Toney Douglas, it is underwhelming. There's Kelenna Abuzeike, Billy Walker and their three second round choices, Andy Rautins, Landry Fields and Jerome Jordan. Am I missing someone? Oh yes, Eddy Curry who Mozgov's agent was told wouldn't be getting any minutes this season. All that hoo-hah about Mozgov choosing the Knicks because they are further along in rebuilding? Nope. It was about Mozgov being promised big minutes.

We're not saying the Nets will do considerably better than the Knicks. But we are saying that as currently constituted, the Knicks ain't that much better.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/7/17/1574548/netsdaily-off-season-report-14

The only part of that article that has some merit, is the bench issue, the rest of it sounds shady.

Felton's a uptempo pg, LB has a half court system...dahhh

The nets won 12 games, and didn't add anybody of significants just a couple of role players..the knicks, even with 29 wins last year, are 17 games better, thats not a considered to be close.

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7/18/2010  3:21 PM
Marv wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Prokhorov should just go ahead and buy the Knicks too. Is there a law that prevents ownership of 2 teams at the same time?

man it's all palin's fault. she didn't guard that border!

Despite the fact that she was watching them from her very back door.

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7/18/2010  3:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/18/2010  4:39 PM
F this idiot Knyet..First off, what kind of rediculous handle is that anyway? What's this punk reserve the right to be a Knick or a net fan depending on how the wind blows? Come on buddy..

Dude's comments are laughable...This moron should take a good look at his own team...Those guys won like 5 games last year and they didn't win the lottery as expected. Oops ...They added a player in Favors who I like but a player that may not be able to help them right away. Let's be honest, Favors & Morrow alone probably won't make that team that much better..

Forget Miami, Chicago and anyone else for a sec...Based on the nerve this c-sucker Prokhorov showed with the billboard he put up right by MSG, the fact that Jersey personnel went out of their way to trash the presentation the Knicks made to LeBron and comments by jerkoff Net fans like Knyet, I'll definitely be circling games against Jersey on the calendar this year...It's on now bitch..

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