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Nyballa561
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7/13/2010  12:41 AM
Ok, I believe the Knicks definitely are at worst, the 7 or 8 seed in the East come next year

Lets look at some of these teams that will be competing for the last couple of seeds

Milwaukee: Very young team, Brandon Jennings was great last year for the Bucks despite his shooting woes. Bogut should come back strong from the devastating injury he sustained, and they were able to supplement their roster with Drew Gooden, Corey Maggette, and Chris Douglas-Roberts. Projected W-L: 44-38, 6th seed

Nets: Another young team, Harris is a good PG, bit overrated IMO, Brook Lopez is a flat out stud. Derrick Favors should be able to contribute right away. I believe they made a couple of head-scratching FA acquisitions in Travis Outlaw, Jordan Farmar, and Johan Petro. They will defintely improve, but I dont see them slipping in one of the final playoff berths. Project W-L: 36-46, no playoffs

Wizards: Definitely will improve from last year drafting John Wall. McGee and Blatche will also improve IMO, Blatche will become an automatic 20-10 player soon enough. Acquiring Hinrich and Jianlian will help the bench production somewhat, I can see Hinrich as a great mentor for Wall. I dont believe they'll factor into the playoff berths. Projected W-L: 35-47, no playoffs

Sixers: This team, IMO is not very good. They traded Dalembert and acquired Spencer Hawes. Hawes and Speights are decent big men, but not very dominating. Elton Brand is a bum, end of story. I believe having Iguadola on the roster will not help Evan Turner's development, and they should look into trading him if possible. I do like Jrue Holliday though. Project W-L: 33-49, no playoffs

Bobcats: I like this team, Larry Brown has them in the right direction. Gerald Wallace is a baller, and i love his game. Steven Jackson compliments the team nicely. Im not sure about their point guard situation, they lost Felton, and I know they have DJ Augustine who Coach Brown wasn't high on last year. Heard they were looking into Calderon in the recent 3-way trade with Toronto and Phoenix, don't see him fitting that well into Brown's system, so that is a concern. They were also able to lock down Tyrus Thomas, who Brown really liked last year. Projected W-L: 42-40, 7th seed

Toronto: The Raptors lost Bosh, who we all hate, but is a star, no doubt. This team seems to be lost direction-wise, but I like the trade for them if they can get rid of Turkoglu and Calderon, and bring in Tyson Chandler, Barbosa, and Diaw. Chandler would really help their front line, because I dont think Bargnani is cutting it at center. I like their draft picks though, Ed Davis out of NC and Solomon Alabi out of FSU, who will really help their front line. Projected W-L: 38-44, no playoffs

Cleveland: I dont think I need to discuss this team, they are in complete disarray and need to start from scratch. Projected W-L: 30-52, no playoffs

Pacers, Pistons: No competition at all, barring a complete surprise. Pacers Project W-L: 26-56, Pistons: 34-48

Knicks: We all know the Knicks situation. Projected W-L: 41-41, 8th seed

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7/13/2010  7:03 PM
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7/13/2010  7:19 PM
Nice post, but those numbers don't add up. Someone has to lose a lot more games. Who's it going to be?
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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7/13/2010  7:56 PM
I'd shave off some wins off of the Wizards and Sixers. Definite overestimations there.
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7/13/2010  8:11 PM
I think it would be miraculous if the Bobcats had a winning record next year after that trade and I think the Wiz will struggle at the same rate that they usually do.

Amare and Felton will be 90% of the Knicks offense next year. Everything will come from their pick and roll and the rest of the team will just benefit from the chaos that will cause for the defense on every possession. If we can't win 42 games from that then I don't know what's going on.

There are some tough teams out there, but that will really be tough to deal with when you have Gallo on the wing and either Chandler, Walker or Randolph waiting on the weak side to clean up when anyone cheats towards the dive man.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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7/13/2010  8:36 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:I think it would be miraculous if the Bobcats had a winning record next year after that trade and I think the Wiz will struggle at the same rate that they usually do.

Amare and Felton will be 90% of the Knicks offense next year. Everything will come from their pick and roll and the rest of the team will just benefit from the chaos that will cause for the defense on every possession. If we can't win 42 games from that then I don't know what's going on.

There are some tough teams out there, but that will really be tough to deal with when you have Gallo on the wing and either Chandler, Walker or Randolph waiting on the weak side to clean up when anyone cheats towards the dive man.

You're trippin' John. Gallo will average 18/8 next year, minimum. I know I'm a Gallo fanboy, but a little birdie told me he is gonna blow up with Amare in the p&r and Felton setting mofos up.

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7/13/2010  8:50 PM
Baring no injuries, and the team playing better defense, i do see us in the hunt.
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7/13/2010  8:54 PM
Moonangie wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:I think it would be miraculous if the Bobcats had a winning record next year after that trade and I think the Wiz will struggle at the same rate that they usually do.

Amare and Felton will be 90% of the Knicks offense next year. Everything will come from their pick and roll and the rest of the team will just benefit from the chaos that will cause for the defense on every possession. If we can't win 42 games from that then I don't know what's going on.

There are some tough teams out there, but that will really be tough to deal with when you have Gallo on the wing and either Chandler, Walker or Randolph waiting on the weak side to clean up when anyone cheats towards the dive man.

You're trippin' John. Gallo will average 18/8 next year, minimum. I know I'm a Gallo fanboy, but a little birdie told me he is gonna blow up with Amare in the p&r and Felton setting mofos up.

I love that you have Gallo at 18/8, minimum. Now that the torrid love affair between Lee and Duhon has been reduced to pen-pals. And Al "Free Candy" Harrington has taken his black hole to another universe, our man should shine.

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7/14/2010  12:17 AM
Don't the Wiz get Gilbert back? I think they might be a sleeper this year..
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7/14/2010  12:30 AM
Magic, Heat, Celtics, Bulls, Bucks, Hawks are all better than us. Probably the Cats too.


That would leave 8th kind of open.

Yet I don't expect to be there.

It's not improbable...but...missing out on that second big name player certainly hurt our chances.

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7/14/2010  12:39 AM
I know this is a little off topic, but has anybody heard anything about those Larry Brown to the 76ers rumors. If Larry takes over as coach for the Sixer than I definitely expect them struggle initially. The Bobcats could thrive or take a nosedive too. Capt. Jack definitely needs a taskmaster to reign him in lol
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7/14/2010  2:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/14/2010  2:26 AM
The bobcats need a PG, toronto lost bosh and hedo, the cavs are a lost cause for yrs to come, the pacers will win a few but nothing close to playoffs. Boston should struggle initially without perkins. WE ARE DEFINITELY 7 OR 8 SEED
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7/14/2010  7:21 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/14/2010  7:24 AM
The Nets are going to win 24 more games than last season? Last time a team did something like that it was the Celts after getting Garnett and Allen.
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7/14/2010  8:23 AM
Nyballa561 wrote:Ok, I believe the Knicks definitely are at worst, the 7 or 8 seed in the East come next year

Lets look at some of these teams that will be competing for the last couple of seeds

Milwaukee: Very young team, Brandon Jennings was great last year for the Bucks despite his shooting woes. Bogut should come back strong from the devastating injury he sustained, and they were able to supplement their roster with Drew Gooden, Corey Maggette, and Chris Douglas-Roberts. Projected W-L: 44-38, 6th seed

Nets: Another young team, Harris is a good PG, bit overrated IMO, Brook Lopez is a flat out stud. Derrick Favors should be able to contribute right away. I believe they made a couple of head-scratching FA acquisitions in Travis Outlaw, Jordan Farmar, and Johan Petro. They will defintely improve, but I dont see them slipping in one of the final playoff berths. Project W-L: 36-46, no playoffs

Wizards: Definitely will improve from last year drafting John Wall. McGee and Blatche will also improve IMO, Blatche will become an automatic 20-10 player soon enough. Acquiring Hinrich and Jianlian will help the bench production somewhat, I can see Hinrich as a great mentor for Wall. I dont believe they'll factor into the playoff berths. Projected W-L: 35-47, no playoffs

Sixers: This team, IMO is not very good. They traded Dalembert and acquired Spencer Hawes. Hawes and Speights are decent big men, but not very dominating. Elton Brand is a bum, end of story. I believe having Iguadola on the roster will not help Evan Turner's development, and they should look into trading him if possible. I do like Jrue Holliday though. Project W-L: 33-49, no playoffs

Bobcats: I like this team, Larry Brown has them in the right direction. Gerald Wallace is a baller, and i love his game. Steven Jackson compliments the team nicely. Im not sure about their point guard situation, they lost Felton, and I know they have DJ Augustine who Coach Brown wasn't high on last year. Heard they were looking into Calderon in the recent 3-way trade with Toronto and Phoenix, don't see him fitting that well into Brown's system, so that is a concern. They were also able to lock down Tyrus Thomas, who Brown really liked last year. Projected W-L: 42-40, 7th seed

Toronto: The Raptors lost Bosh, who we all hate, but is a star, no doubt. This team seems to be lost direction-wise, but I like the trade for them if they can get rid of Turkoglu and Calderon, and bring in Tyson Chandler, Barbosa, and Diaw. Chandler would really help their front line, because I dont think Bargnani is cutting it at center. I like their draft picks though, Ed Davis out of NC and Solomon Alabi out of FSU, who will really help their front line. Projected W-L: 38-44, no playoffs

Cleveland: I dont think I need to discuss this team, they are in complete disarray and need to start from scratch. Projected W-L: 30-52, no playoffs

Pacers, Pistons: No competition at all, barring a complete surprise. Pacers Project W-L: 26-56, Pistons: 34-48

Knicks: We all know the Knicks situation. Projected W-L: 41-41, 8th seed

Hmm so you mean to say that the Knicks are now good enough to make the playoffs, but at the 8th seed not good enough to make a serious challenge for a championship? This is not good as we will also not be in a very good draft position to get a good player. Perhaps more free agency spending can get us out of this rut? /Sarcasm

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7/14/2010  9:41 AM
Moonangie wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:I think it would be miraculous if the Bobcats had a winning record next year after that trade and I think the Wiz will struggle at the same rate that they usually do.

Amare and Felton will be 90% of the Knicks offense next year. Everything will come from their pick and roll and the rest of the team will just benefit from the chaos that will cause for the defense on every possession. If we can't win 42 games from that then I don't know what's going on.

There are some tough teams out there, but that will really be tough to deal with when you have Gallo on the wing and either Chandler, Walker or Randolph waiting on the weak side to clean up when anyone cheats towards the dive man.

You're trippin' John. Gallo will average 18/8 next year, minimum. I know I'm a Gallo fanboy, but a little birdie told me he is gonna blow up with Amare in the p&r and Felton setting mofos up.


If rusty ass mcgrady can run the pick and roll and get us wide open shooters im sure felton can at least match that but with a lot better defense. How many times was bill walker just left sitting alone on the wing?
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7/14/2010  9:54 AM
I don't see how the Knicks can be given 41 wins. I can't see more than 36 coming from this team. There has to be a lot of improvement on the young players part if they are to be anywhere close to 41 wins. That means Chandler, Gallo and Randolph will have to step up big time. It helps to have Felton but his game needs improvement too. If Felton reverts back to the 39% shooter he has been most of his career this team will be lucky to be at 36 wins.

Amare improves the team only so much everything else is a giant question mark.

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