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My 2cents of the Knicks future and some questions about this year for yall =)
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RonRon
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7/12/2010  2:08 AM
i think this Mozgov European center is a great signing, with the Jordan pick as well. Love the way Walsh have worked with what he had and his cap flexibility. I think Dantoni saw what he lost in Darko when he went to the Wolves. I think he understands what he could have gave the Knicks, at least right now. Maybe he preferred some more scoring because last year we went through many droughts of not scoring. We have a complete different roster and lineup. With the firepower we have this year on the roster and depth, I think he will look to develop them halfway through the season or a little minutes if they show they are ready in practice to them earlier.

Question is can everyone learn to play with one another as a unit together, live, work hard and FOCUS on the court while not being distracted off the court with the attention of media, spotlight, money, nightlife and etc? A lot of the roster is new, will they learn each others strenghts and weakness, compensate for them? Besides Chandler, Gallo, TD, Amare, no one has played on this offense but the GS players always played at a high energy and offense style of play under Nelson.

Felton
Azubuike
AR
Amare
Gallo

Chandler
TD
Walker
Tufiaf

Fautkins?
Mozgov?
Jordan?
Fields?

There is also speculation on Chandler being moved which I think is a possibility because we wouldnt be able to sign a max contract if a team signs him because he is a RFA. Think its also the same with AR. So that would be very interesting as well, especially if they can get good value back for these guys but I would like to see them perform first and most likely want to keep AR unless its that great of a deal. Does Dantoni or Waslh even want Earl Barron back? He looks no where as physically skilled then our 2 center prospects but are they ready to contribute? I know he only played 7 games but played very well within those games with his limited talents, shooting, and rebounding maybe even defense in this system. he doesnt intimidate or help D like Mozgov and Jordan but he seemed ready. He reminds me of Kurt Thomas with a little more agility and less rugged/tough.

Would a trade of Chandler, AR, Curry, and 1st round pick be enough for Denver for Melo? Would it even be worth it to do or to stick it out and put Melo on the seat like Lebron and Bosh? I personally think this team is has a lot of upside and is VERY young. I think they are talented enough to fight for 5th or 6th seed.

Boston
Orlando
Miami
Atlanta

fight with
BULLS
Bucks

maybes
Bobcats
Nets
Philly

Should we sign veterans just as mentors to keep these kids honest and work hard? One of the reasons why I think Boston was and is a great team is because of KG and the veteran leadership he and the VETERANS bring to WANT TO WIN! With that said, these are mainly guys that are respected by the players and coaches, and work hard on and off the court. It's all infectious, think about it, its normal to push harder and want to win when you have a serious work out buddy/friends vs hanging buddies in the gym....
Problem is will the players we sign get that same respect and leadership role if they dont even play? I don't think it will hurt if we acquired great work ethic role models to be a locker room presence, dedication, off the court distractions, and advice to play in the spotlight of MSG, NEW YORK CITY. If I am not mistaken there can be 2 more players that can sit on the bench, Who are worth of such roles? I was thinking Ben Wallace to be one but he is also resigning with the Pistons.

Anyone also know how long Dwight is signed till and when he can opt out? Like Briggs said, Matt Gasol can be an interesting player too!
Skill and talent wise, I am happy and ready to go to WAR with this squad, especially knowing it can get better with Curry's expiring&trade or next year)
Just my 2 cents, I applaud Waslh for his efforts and wish ISIAH NEVER COMES BACK TO THOSE DUTIES!

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TMS
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7/12/2010  3:05 AM
Dwight Howard has an opt out after the 2011/12 season, same as CP3.
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7/12/2010  4:56 AM
TMS wrote:Dwight Howard has an opt out after the 2011/12 season, same as CP3.

I sincerely hope both these guys aren't like LeDiva and pull some long, drawn out crap when they already know where they're going. But I suspect they have a little more class than that.

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7/12/2010  9:19 AM
I believe Melo wants to come here very much. Once CP3 sees how tough it will be trying win out west he'll also be more open to moving here. The rumors will grow with each passing month. If Felton can grasp his role we will win a lot of games and look very attractive.

When TD played well the team looked so much better! Felton is a far better pure PG and playing under LB has taught him more discipline and control. I have high hopes for Felton.

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7/12/2010  9:42 AM
nixluva wrote:I believe Melo wants to come here very much. Once CP3 sees how tough it will be trying win out west he'll also be more open to moving here. The rumors will grow with each passing month. If Felton can grasp his role we will win a lot of games and look very attractive.

When TD played well the team looked so much better! Felton is a far better pure PG and playing under LB has taught him more discipline and control. I have high hopes for Felton.

same.

been looking at Bobcat roster over last 5 years... Felton has no one to play picknroll with, he could have MIP type year if Knicks can work that out and space the floor. basically, he had OK4 and Wallace (who is a scrap type player), and OK4 has hands of stone and can't do much, and with Gallo, Chandler on the outside/slashing, that is nice for him

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7/12/2010  9:46 AM
well the reason i think melo is almost a given is because i know it irks him that his "brand" ( using lebums words)isnt as expansive as it should be. he also isnt getting the respect he thinks he should get from a great player who led his team to the western conference finals a year ago. if karl doesnt come back for the full year ( which looks like that is a huge possibility) the coach they have can not motivate or control this team and melo will be on the block. the question is whether or not melo will sign his extension. it might be possible he was holding off until after the wedding because of how hectic it is. if september rolls around with no sign extension, you might as well make the knicks melo jerseys. ( knock on wood)
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7/12/2010  9:49 AM
martin wrote:
nixluva wrote:I believe Melo wants to come here very much. Once CP3 sees how tough it will be trying win out west he'll also be more open to moving here. The rumors will grow with each passing month. If Felton can grasp his role we will win a lot of games and look very attractive.

When TD played well the team looked so much better! Felton is a far better pure PG and playing under LB has taught him more discipline and control. I have high hopes for Felton.

same.

been looking at Bobcat roster over last 5 years... Felton has no one to play picknroll with, he could have MIP type year if Knicks can work that out and space the floor. basically, he had OK4 and Wallace (who is a scrap type player), and OK4 has hands of stone and can't do much, and with Gallo, Chandler on the outside/slashing, that is nice for him


This is the best PG MDA will have had here. We all know how important that is to how he wants to play. Thing I also like about Felt is his winning pedigree. Dude won on every level before being stuck on expansion level Bobcats teams. He has so much more offensive talent now. Plus a PG friendly coach.
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7/12/2010  9:55 AM
jazz74 wrote:well the reason i think melo is almost a given is because i know it irks him that his "brand" ( using lebums words)isnt as expansive as it should be. he also isnt getting the respect he thinks he should get from a great player who led his team to the western conference finals a year ago. if karl doesnt come back for the full year ( which looks like that is a huge possibility) the coach they have can not motivate or control this team and melo will be on the block. the question is whether or not melo will sign his extension. it might be possible he was holding off until after the wedding because of how hectic it is. if september rolls around with no sign extension, you might as well make the knicks melo jerseys. ( knock on wood)

Nothing is given, they are the Knicks and this is NY and player are only exploiting this great city. Aren't you tired of getting played enough already. Stick to what you have and develop it. The Knicks have good player who are on the up. Gallo and Chandler are going to have a great season mark it.

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7/12/2010  10:02 AM
nixluva wrote:
martin wrote:
nixluva wrote:I believe Melo wants to come here very much. Once CP3 sees how tough it will be trying win out west he'll also be more open to moving here. The rumors will grow with each passing month. If Felton can grasp his role we will win a lot of games and look very attractive.

When TD played well the team looked so much better! Felton is a far better pure PG and playing under LB has taught him more discipline and control. I have high hopes for Felton.

same.

been looking at Bobcat roster over last 5 years... Felton has no one to play picknroll with, he could have MIP type year if Knicks can work that out and space the floor. basically, he had OK4 and Wallace (who is a scrap type player), and OK4 has hands of stone and can't do much, and with Gallo, Chandler on the outside/slashing, that is nice for him


This is the best PG MDA will have had here. We all know how important that is to how he wants to play. Thing I also like about Felt is his winning pedigree. Dude won on every level before being stuck on expansion level Bobcats teams. He has so much more offensive talent now. Plus a PG friendly coach.

i agree with you guys.

this is why Felton was at the top of my list. He could be poised for a breakout year here.

he has a toughness to his game that reminds me of chris childs, but he's more athletic and a better passer and pick and roll guy. i think he could be a very good piece for us.

i'm glad we kept flexibility to chase Chris Paul, but I'm also glad we aren't waiting two years to fill the PG position.

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7/12/2010  10:15 AM
Vmart wrote:
jazz74 wrote:well the reason i think melo is almost a given is because i know it irks him that his "brand" ( using lebums words)isnt as expansive as it should be. he also isnt getting the respect he thinks he should get from a great player who led his team to the western conference finals a year ago. if karl doesnt come back for the full year ( which looks like that is a huge possibility) the coach they have can not motivate or control this team and melo will be on the block. the question is whether or not melo will sign his extension. it might be possible he was holding off until after the wedding because of how hectic it is. if september rolls around with no sign extension, you might as well make the knicks melo jerseys. ( knock on wood)

Nothing is given, they are the Knicks and this is NY and player are only exploiting this great city. Aren't you tired of getting played enough already. Stick to what you have and develop it. The Knicks have good player who are on the up. Gallo and Chandler are going to have a great season mark it.

you are right about this and nothing is a given. we do have players that are good and will fit well under mda system so there is no excuses about us not being good this year. i am excited but cautious. we had some years where we had enough talent to be in the playoffs and blew up right on the court. i am saying this because, like walsh said, we have cap flexibility. we will use it to make splashes which we did this year, though not as big as i wanted it to be. we build a playoff team and we can attract good fa, and it doesnt have to be just melo.

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7/12/2010  10:20 AM
jazz74 wrote:
Vmart wrote:
jazz74 wrote:well the reason i think melo is almost a given is because i know it irks him that his "brand" ( using lebums words)isnt as expansive as it should be. he also isnt getting the respect he thinks he should get from a great player who led his team to the western conference finals a year ago. if karl doesnt come back for the full year ( which looks like that is a huge possibility) the coach they have can not motivate or control this team and melo will be on the block. the question is whether or not melo will sign his extension. it might be possible he was holding off until after the wedding because of how hectic it is. if september rolls around with no sign extension, you might as well make the knicks melo jerseys. ( knock on wood)

Nothing is given, they are the Knicks and this is NY and player are only exploiting this great city. Aren't you tired of getting played enough already. Stick to what you have and develop it. The Knicks have good player who are on the up. Gallo and Chandler are going to have a great season mark it.

you are right about this and nothing is a given. we do have players that are good and will fit well under mda system so there is no excuses about us not being good this year. i am excited but cautious. we had some years where we had enough talent to be in the playoffs and blew up right on the court. i am saying this because, like walsh said, we have cap flexibility. we will use it to make splashes which we did this year, though not as big as i wanted it to be. we build a playoff team and we can attract good fa, and it doesnt have to be just melo.

Yes the flexibility is huge plus. Just in case things don't go as planned Donnie left a lot of room to improve the Knicks.

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7/12/2010  10:48 AM
I think Dantoni saw what he lost in Darko when he went to the Wolves. I think he understands what he could have gave the Knicks,

All Euros are not equal. Darko was the prototypical center for MDA. A running kid who can shoot block and rebound. Darko was seemingly perfect but he exibited charactor flaws that he has yet to grow out of.

Maybe he does, but think about what a kid would have to do to earn so little playing time.

MDA or knicks never bad talked the kid to the extent that would make his benching logical.

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7/12/2010  10:57 AM
If Carmello doesn't sign an extension then it'll be a distraction to the nuggets. Although Kenyon Martin & Chauncy Billups (team option) are also in their last year. Team could keep Carmello for one last run, with hopefully George Karl coaching them.

A deal involving Gallo, Chandler, & Curry could get it done.

Would hate to lose Gallo but a front-line of Carmello, AR, & Amare is very apealing.

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7/12/2010  1:08 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:
TMS wrote:Dwight Howard has an opt out after the 2011/12 season, same as CP3.

I sincerely hope both these guys aren't like LeDiva and pull some long, drawn out crap when they already know where they're going. But I suspect they have a little more class than that.

i have a feeling those 2 guys are the likeliest to wanna team up to form their own superstar squad... i have a feeling it's gonna happen in Orlando... the State of Florida might be having a bukkake fest of epic proportions by the year 2012.

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7/12/2010  1:49 PM
TLover wrote:If Carmello doesn't sign an extension then it'll be a distraction to the nuggets. Although Kenyon Martin & Chauncy Billups (team option) are also in their last year. Team could keep Carmello for one last run, with hopefully George Karl coaching them.

A deal involving Gallo, Chandler, & Curry could get it done.

Would hate to lose Gallo but a front-line of Carmello, AR, & Amare is very apealing.

I would also HATE to lose Gallo. But I am not sure we could start him if we trade for Melo. Much as I don't want to admit it, I think Gallo would have to be included in a trade for Melo because he would otherwise need to come off the bench, which would be a waste of his development and talent.

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7/12/2010  10:46 PM
If Carmello says (or already said) to the Nuggets he will sign with the Knicks after the season, then a deal of Gallo, Chandler, & Curry is something they should strongly consider.

Potential Knick 8 man rotation:

Pg: Felton, TD
Sg: Azubuike, (TD), Walker
Sf: Anthony,(Walker)
Pf: Amare,(AR)
C: AR, Turiaf or Timo

We do lose good defense from Wilson & Gallo. That's why wouldn't mind waiting out the season and be able to get Carmello & keep Gallo.

My 2cents of the Knicks future and some questions about this year for yall =)

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