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ESPN will never say so... but I think we are leading the LeBron race with the Amare deal.
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7/5/2010  11:28 PM
Putting the pieces together:

1) Worldwide Wes is supposedly out of the inner circle in Cleveland right now - he was the one pushing Chicago.

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Also, can confirm several reports of a rift between Wes Wesley & James camp. Wes was indeed pushing Chicago, I'm told.
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He really likes Rose & Noah. But there's lack if shooters on roster. Also it doesn't sound like he's exactly being welcomed by Rose.
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2) Miami and Chicago now have to fight over Bosh as the kind of PF Bron needs to win at a high level - the Knicks have one in Amare. All indications are that Bosh wants the 6th year and will need a S&T and that Toronto is not ammenable to dealing with Miami at all or Chicago yet. Bosh could end up in Houston for all we know - in that scenario, does Wade rush to Chicago? or stay in Miami and try to attract Boozer? If Wade goes to Chicago, does Bron stay in Cleveland with no upgrades or look at the Knicks?

3) It seems like Bron was waiting for a team to make a splash to woo him - the Knicks are the first to do so in terms of adding an actual player. No one can say the Knicks have an empty roster now. We have Amare, Gallo, Wilson, TD, Walker.


Right now, I think Cleveland is probably the front runner - I think Bron will likely stay there on a three year deal and then think about the Brooklyn Nyets. BUT, if Wade joins Chicago or if Wade and Bosh team in Miami... I think Bron will have to seriously look here.

Signing Amare was a pretty brilliant move by Donnie given the landscape.

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7/5/2010  11:38 PM
i think the Amare deal puts us in a much better position to land another max guy, no doubt about it... we'll see if it goes that way... hoping for the best.
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7/5/2010  11:38 PM
Think we should of offered Less then max but I agree pretty smart move by The Don....

You think we can get Bosh for Curry and Chandler and some picks?

Expiring deal young promising SF which they dont have and a pick for someone they are gonna lose regardless?

Or a threeway trade?

Just think Bosh at center on this team with Amare and Bron would be the best possible scenario this summer!!

And we might be able to pull it out!!

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7/5/2010  11:39 PM
nicely distilled
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7/5/2010  11:40 PM
Bosh is revealing himself to be a total diva. I want no part of Bosh at this point.
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7/5/2010  11:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2010  11:42 PM
I'm gonna go with Brian Cashman and say Lebron is coming here...

Seriously I think he's wanted to be hear all along and he needed to convince himself that the Knicks could legitimately afford him and contend and I think now we have the roster to do so. Lebron had said all along that he wanted to make the decision before his camp started, but I think the way the dominos have fallen he's starting to lean towards moving.

Honestly I think he has a better chance here with Amare and Gallo than he does with Rose and Noah. I'm thinking the Bulls no longer make sense.

The question is whether NJ is really out of it right now b/c he doesn't want to hang out in Newark. It is a potentially good situation for him and they could easily add Bosh, Lee or Boozer still.

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7/6/2010  12:12 AM
I don't understand how the Nets could even be given any kind of consideration except polite, and for Jayz. Seriously, 12 wins?

I do want to think that logic would lead Lebron to two choices- stay in Cleveland or come to NYC because we now how the star to sign with him and he can make more money here than anywhere else.

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7/6/2010  12:15 AM
franco12 wrote:I don't understand how the Nets could even be given any kind of consideration except polite, and for Jayz. Seriously, 12 wins?

I do want to think that logic would lead Lebron to two choices- stay in Cleveland or come to NYC because we now how the star to sign with him and he can make more money here than anywhere else.


Well i wouldn't want to play for a team that has no fans and in Newark, but a roster that potentially has Devin Harris, Courtney Lee, Lebron James, Carlos Boozer or David Lee and Brook Lopez could potentially do some damage IMO. If Jay can convince him BK is on the horizon and he can do the same kind of endorsements on the Nets as the KNicks than its still an intriguing situation.

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7/6/2010  12:15 AM
Well, if you think about it, of all the teams that are contenders, Amare is the most complimentary player to LeBron on any of them. I think Chicago, Miami (assuming Wade stays) and the Clippers are all but out of it. As mentioned, the Nets have a terrible team and are playing in Newark; that's probably a deal breaker. So, I do kinda agree. I think it will be either Cleveland or New York. LeBron + Amare and we're in the NBA finals, at a minimum, IMHO.
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7/6/2010  12:23 AM
The media is lost! Cavs or Knicks! Those are the top 2.
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7/6/2010  12:27 AM
nixluva wrote:The media is lost! Cavs or Knicks! Those are the top 2.

i dont get how they report : chi and cle are the favs. cle sure, chi -- right now not seeing it. too much poop floating around to be sure of anything with lbj

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7/6/2010  12:31 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2010  12:31 AM
not sure the Bulls are out of it... they still have enough cap space to sign another impact FA to go along with Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah & Luol Deng even if Lebron signs there... not a bad nucleus there talent wise... in many ways, their roster still trumps ours even with Amare & Gallo, though what we gained here is a dominant low post scorer that Chicago doesn't currently have... that could change if they're able to land a Boozer, Scola or D Lee.
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7/6/2010  12:31 AM
what about Derick Rose coming out and saying he preferred Joe Johnson:

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67865/20100705/rose_preferred_johnson_over_lebron/

Hey, Lebron, Rose preferred Joe Johnson over you- still want to sign there?

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7/6/2010  12:34 AM
This is probably the wrong thread to ask this, but not worth starting it's own...

Is there any team that can afford all of Bosh, Wade and James?

My understanding is that Miami comes closest, but even that entails some of them taking reduced salaries. Is that correct?

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7/6/2010  12:35 AM
TMS wrote:not sure the Bulls are out of it... they still have enough cap space to sign another impact FA to go along with Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah & Luol Deng even if Lebron signs there... not a bad nucleus there talent wise... in many ways, their roster still trumps ours even with Amare & Gallo, though what we gained here is a dominant low post scorer that Chicago doesn't currently have... that could change if they're able to land a Boozer, Scola or D Lee.

yeah, but before that "other impact free agent" the bulls were supposedly adding was either Bosh or Joe Johnson. Johnson is out of play now. As is Rudy Gay. As is Amare. Bosh is looking like a longshot and we know he definitely won't take a penny less than 6yrs $120M and Toronto wants no part of Deng in return for Bosh.

Chicago's options are looking more and more limited as FA progresses.

Also, all the Chicago talk was supposedly WWWes's doing. And Derrick Rose knows he and Bron are not a good fit.

No matter what the media says, I think Chicago is looking dimmer and dimmer.

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7/6/2010  12:37 AM
BlueSeats wrote:This is probably the wrong thread to ask this, but not worth starting it's own...

Is there any team that can afford all of Bosh, Wade and James?

My understanding is that Miami comes closest, but even that entails some of them taking reduced salaries. Is that correct?

oh man, you have been under a rock, havent you?

Miami, but they would have to take a slight reduction in pay. And Bosh kinda wants a 6-year max, which would mean S&T, which is unlikely with MIA.

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7/6/2010  12:39 AM
franco12 wrote:what about Derick Rose coming out and saying he preferred Joe Johnson:

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67865/20100705/rose_preferred_johnson_over_lebron/

Hey, Lebron, Rose preferred Joe Johnson over you- still want to sign there?

This is what Bulls strategy SHOULD have been. Target Joe and PF. Those 2 types of players would have complimented Rose much better (Bron and Wade obviously better talent but...)

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7/6/2010  12:39 AM
TMS wrote:not sure the Bulls are out of it... they still have enough cap space to sign another impact FA to go along with Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah & Luol Deng even if Lebron signs there... not a bad nucleus there talent wise... in many ways, their roster still trumps ours even with Amare & Gallo, though what we gained here is a dominant low post scorer that Chicago doesn't currently have... that could change if they're able to land a Boozer, Scola or D Lee.

Well, in some ways, though, you wonder if it's actually complimentary talent. Will Rose take a backseat to LeBron? Right now it seems like there's no chance they can get both Bosh and LeBron, so I dunno. In some ways, I would prefer our current roster over what the Bulls have. I think our roster + LeBron is better than the Bulls roster + LeBron. Just my two cents, though.

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7/6/2010  12:40 AM
even chris broussard is acknowledging it:
NYK's plan to have Amare and next yr Carmelo has intrigued LeBron. Not saying NYK is frontrunner (they're not) but they're gaining ground
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7/6/2010  12:42 AM
Solace wrote:
TMS wrote:not sure the Bulls are out of it... they still have enough cap space to sign another impact FA to go along with Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah & Luol Deng even if Lebron signs there... not a bad nucleus there talent wise... in many ways, their roster still trumps ours even with Amare & Gallo, though what we gained here is a dominant low post scorer that Chicago doesn't currently have... that could change if they're able to land a Boozer, Scola or D Lee.

Well, in some ways, though, you wonder if it's actually complimentary talent. Will Rose take a backseat to LeBron? Right now it seems like there's no chance they can get both Bosh and LeBron, so I dunno. In some ways, I would prefer our current roster over what the Bulls have. I think our roster + LeBron is better than the Bulls roster + LeBron. Just my two cents, though.

come on man, Rose would most definitely take a backseat to Lebron... & if he raised a stink about it, he'd be traded for an Allstar that will... there's zero to debate about in that regard... Rose is not in the same class as Lebron James.

& again, the Bulls wouldn't just be limited to signing Lebron, they'd have enough cap space left over to land another impact level FA... so is our roster & Lebron better than the Bulls Roster & Lebron & another impact signing? i'm not so sure you can make that statement.

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