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Nalod
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1/15/2004  11:35 AM


I read some of you hoping that Oak will be signed and bring some of that toughness!

I loved oak the player. He was always interesting.

For those Real Fans, the ones whom have not azz left cus they always "LMAO", and loved Oak, might find this interesting.....

Oak played for both Riles and Wilkins.

Oak rips Wilkens as wrong choice

By FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Charles Oakley questioned the Knicks' decision to hire Lenny Wilkens yesterday, saying his former coach "is too laid-back for New York."

"The players and the fans need a feisty coach," said Oakley, the popular former Knicks power forward. "New York doesn't want a laid-back coach but that's what Lenny is. I think Mike Fratello would have been a better choice.

"I can't say good call or bad call for the Knicks, but Lenny has to change his demeanor. If he reads this I hope he takes that advice like a man and doesn't take it personally. I'm just being real. I always loved Lenny ... until I got to Toronto and I played for him."

Oakley, speaking over the telephone, was stunned at the news that Wilkens was hired as Don Chaney's replacement. Oakley played for Wilkens during the 2000-01 season, the year the Raptors defeated the Knicks in the first round of the playoffs.

Wilkens and Oakley clashed, particularly in the playoffs when Oakley began criticizing All-Star guard Vince Carter. Several of Oakley's teammates believed that had Oakley not pushed Carter, the Raptors would not have won the series.

"I stood behind Lenny; I was one of his captains," said Oakley, who expects to be signed by a playoff-bound team after the All-Star break. "But he didn't like being challenged. He can't say anything bad about me. I came prepared to practice and play every day. But when I said some things about Vince, Lenny turned his back on me.

"I'm a throwback player and I thought Lenny was a throwback coach. But I was wrong."

Another one of Wilkens' former players, who did not want to be identified, also feels Isiah Thomas is making a mistake.

"It's going to be a picnic around the Knicks and I'm pretty sure they don't need that," said the player, who is still in the league. "There is never any accountability with Lenny like you would have with Pat Riley."

When asked about Wilkens' practices, which are renowned for being short and easy, the player replied: "Practice? Just like Allen Iverson said, 'Practice? Come on now.'"





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simrud
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1/15/2004  11:37 AM
Oak is a moron, very hardworking and tough player whom I loved on the Knicks, but neverthelss he is very very dumb. Takin bball cues from him is silly, especially on coaching.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
playa2
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1/15/2004  11:41 AM
Now that's Vince Carter and now Charles Oakley both telling what the toronto media has already said. Something just ain't right!!!!!
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
HARDCOREKNICKSFAN
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1/15/2004  12:15 PM
Now go read what Deke said about Lenny.

Post that, Playa/Nalod/Nedyal/Bobby!!!

Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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1/15/2004  12:36 PM
I love Oak but really, the guy has nevr said anything positive about the Knicks since he was traded. Hes always been bitter...

And until Vince wins something I cant really take his word on what b-ball is because hes been unmotivated most of his career. There biggest moment was beating the Knicks in 2001. Who was at the helm?

Oh yeah Lenny Wilkens.
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1/15/2004  12:42 PM
He might not be a displinary guy according to Oak but he has to better than Chaney doesn't he? We have never been close to .500 with this guy! Now Lenny comes in and we have hope. A little hope.

Lenny is not my first choice and I bet no one's first choice on this board. We all wanted a defensive guy but can we really question his ability based on what happened in Toronto? Is Riely a bad coach after Miami? Is Doc a bad coach after this season in Orlando? Coaches have their way of doing things and the only thing that matters is if it works.

Just chill out and watch the knicks play 10 games before being all negative about this!! The Layden/Chaney regime has been toppled fellas, this is a day for positives! Only positives. Be happy.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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1/15/2004  12:43 PM
If Oak is that bitter, why was he @ MSG last night?
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
Nalod
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1/15/2004  1:15 PM
Core, you were the one hoping Oak was coming back.

Who's Bobby?

Lenny should have pulled a Van Gundy with the Raps. Vince gets star treatment and whines. I don't think Wilk got a good deal with The Raps. Strapping him with Oak, Akeem and a one legged Vince is not a good formula.

There is no reason this team miss's the playoffs. They have the guns.
They have the coaches, and they have fan support.

Anything short will be a complete and utter disaster.

They can be 4th-8th in the East. And if so, they can do damage in the playoffs as they would be a hot team just coming into its own?

Thats my expectation. Thats not hating now is it? Thats not jumping on the band wagon? I expected this team to have done better by now, and am glad changes are happening. Its not the most thought out plan, but the Knicks have a history of flying by the seat of their pants.

KVH is playing like he should be. Marbury should get his 20 and 8, but with Wilk and Thomas, he should be a better team player. Allan is now one of three options, and should get better looks. KT I think needs to be traded. nothing against him, jsut want a PF that can run.

Thats it now Knicks, make a run, get in the playoffs. Do that, you can make conf. finals!

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1/15/2004  7:11 PM
I said this team would make the playoffs before those trades regardless of who was coaching, I saw the talent level and had vision way before these latest trades. So making the playoffs isn't a bandwagon thing with me.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
GoNyGoNyGo
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1/15/2004  8:40 PM
Posted by playa2:

Now that's Vince Carter and now Charles Oakley both telling what the toronto media has already said. Something just ain't right!!!!!
If we are to belive the OAK man then we must believe him when he says JVG was a good coach and he has respect for him.

EXposed again!!! Smile.
playa2
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1/16/2004  7:00 AM
that's true gony VG is a good coach, limited from winning a champiomship though. That's why he signed mark Jackson as PG Stevie Francis is already tuning him out!!!!
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/16/2004  7:57 AM
Yes, JVG and Francis have a lot of work to do.

Hopefully, Jax can play 15 mpg and help the rockets win, that is what they are thnking. His D is not a concern because Ming is there to swat the shots away.


Oh, please tell me where the Championships are that Don Nelson has as a coach? You claim he should have remained in NY, so where are his rings???? HMMMMMMMMMMMM?

At least Wilkins has one as a coach!!! LOL!!!!!!


[Edited by - gonygonygo on 01/16/2004 07:59:22]
playa2
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1/16/2004  3:58 PM
Cmon Gony, NOBODY IS SCARED OF THE ROCKETS COME PLAYOFF TIME, THEY WILL BE OUT OF PLAYOFFS AFTER 1ST RD.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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