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Moonangie
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7/4/2010  4:16 PM
from RealGM:
With what is expected to be the final week of the LeBron James free-agency saga about to unfold, Chris Sheridan of ESPN offers some of the key strategic considerations that are in play.

Another free agent who could ultimately figure into all of this is the Knicks' own David Lee, who Sheridan reports is amenable to going to Toronto in a sign-and-trade for Chris Bosh. Sheridan also reports that the Raptors would welcome such a swap.

The Knicks have communicated to Amar'e Stoudemire that they are willing to offer him a maximum-salary contract of $100 million over 5 years without yet making him a firm offer.

The reason the Knicks are holding off is to wait for decisions from James, Bosh and Dwyane Wade.

At the heart of the matter is with whom James and Bosh prefer to play and in which city each prefers to play.

On Thursday, New York's management told James he can bring any other maximum-level player with him, or he could agree to play with David Lee re-signed by the Knicks at some number below the max-salary amount.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67824/20100704/lee_open_to_s&t_to_raps_for_bosh_no_firm_offer_yet_from_ny_to_amare/#ixzz0skLf3q2s

Back to Plan A, whch is the best plan. Lebron + Bosh = Chips (and I ain't talkin California Highway Patrol).

This week is the start of amazing. Why would Lebron go back to the Cavs for three years when he can play in the Garden for the same three years and then jet to BKNY if he really wants? Mama din't raise no foo. Hopefully, Wednesday bring to a close this long, sorry saga of sucky hoops in NYC.
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7/4/2010  4:23 PM
SOunds like Walsh isnt going for the low hanging fruit and he is going to wait it out. Amare has no leverage because no one wants to pay him like the Knicks do.
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7/4/2010  4:30 PM
only reason i would prefer Bosh is if that's who it would take to get Lebron to NY... i personally think Amare is a better fit for this city & for Lebron's game... even tho Amare's injury history is a risk, he's shown he can still play at an elite level after recovery, which is key.

i'm surprised if Lee would accept a S&T to Toronto (if that's even true), but he's looking to get paid just like everybody else... only way to get his 6th year is through a S&T & i guess the MEM scenario is still shaky in terms of the type of deal he could get from them... Lee & Chandler for Bosh in a S&T would be fine by me if it lands us Lebron James in the end... otherwise if Lebron would sign here to play with Amare, why not just sign Amare outright & use Lee in a S&T for Tony Parker?

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7/4/2010  4:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/4/2010  4:35 PM
TMS wrote:only reason i would prefer Bosh is if that's who it would take to get Lebron to NY... i personally think Amare is a better fit for this city & for Lebron's game... even tho Amare's injury history is a risk, he's shown he can still play at an elite level after recovery, which is key.

i'm surprised if Lee would accept a S&T to Toronto (if that's even true), but he's looking to get paid just like everybody else... only way to get his 6th year is through a S&T & i guess the MEM scenario is still shaky in terms of the type of deal he could get from them... Lee & Chandler for Bosh in a S&T would be fine by me if it lands us Lebron James in the end... otherwise if Lebron would sign here to play with Amare, why not just sign Amare outright & use Lee in a S&T for Tony Parker?

Totally agree with you about Stoudemire. I'm hoping Bosh is so joined-at-the-hip with Wade that he'll join him in Miami and Lebron will join Stoudemire here, in NY. According to reports, James supposedly asked management to try and acquire Amare when it was reported the Suns put him on the market during the trade-deadline. I definitely prefer Amare over Bosh. Amare's make-up is tailor made for the city. And as you say, Lee would be available in a sign and trade to San An or another team in a possible three-way.
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7/4/2010  4:47 PM
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7/4/2010  4:48 PM
Now is Bosh amenable to a sign and trade for Lee?

I have no problem with this, although my first choice for sign and trade is Lee for Carmelo.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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7/4/2010  4:55 PM
Solace wrote:Now is Bosh amenable to a sign and trade for Lee?

I have no problem with this, although my first choice for sign and trade is Lee for Carmelo.

Well if the Raptors can get David Lee for 6 years 72mm and bring along Chandler for Bosh--and Bosh gets his 118 mm--then you can probably see some love all the way around. The Raptors getting Lee is not a bad compensation prize

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7/4/2010  4:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/4/2010  4:58 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Solace wrote:Now is Bosh amenable to a sign and trade for Lee?

I have no problem with this, although my first choice for sign and trade is Lee for Carmelo.

Well if the Raptors can get David Lee for 6 years 72mm and bring along Chandler for Bosh--and Bosh gets his 118 mm--then you can probably see some love all the way around. The Raptors getting Lee is not a bad compensation prize

I would not also give Chandler. If we can sign Amare outright without losing Chandler and get him slightly cheaper (no S&T), I would say the price for Bosh is too steep... unless LeBron or Wade is a guarantee.

I agree from the Raptors side. Getting Lee, alone, is the best deal they're going to get for Bosh. I don't see them doing any better. I don't see why we would also give Chandler. They have zero leverage.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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7/4/2010  5:04 PM
Solace wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Solace wrote:Now is Bosh amenable to a sign and trade for Lee?

I have no problem with this, although my first choice for sign and trade is Lee for Carmelo.

Well if the Raptors can get David Lee for 6 years 72mm and bring along Chandler for Bosh--and Bosh gets his 118 mm--then you can probably see some love all the way around. The Raptors getting Lee is not a bad compensation prize

I would not also give Chandler. If we can sign Amare outright without losing Chandler and get him slightly cheaper (no S&T), I would say the price for Bosh is too steep... unless LeBron or Wade is a guarantee.

I agree from the Raptors side. Getting Lee, alone, is the best deal they're going to get for Bosh. I don't see them doing any better. I don't see why we would also give Chandler. They have zero leverage.

Well if the whole deal is to somehow get LBJ here by acquiring Bosh than Chandler would be fodder to get deal 1 done

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7/4/2010  5:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/4/2010  5:27 PM
colangelo has been saying they are looking for the TPE and picks. the article that the raptors are ticked at bosh are true. colangelo said there has been little to no communication from bosh's side and they're ticked...in 2 interviews since FA began, colangelo has mentioned TPE and picks a few times...and based on how he talks to the press, that's what he's looking for/expecting. they would like to work out a deal that will benefit both parties but they are not going to acquiese to a s&t if bosh's agent is not going to work on getting a good package to toronto. that's why the rockets have made a late entry into the bosh race. bosh is not going to settle for less than the 6 year max.
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7/4/2010  5:20 PM
This is a business and so far JJ took the money, Amare going to the highest bidder, only Dirk has left money on the table. Will Lebron, Wade and Bosh take less money to go somewhere else I can only see Bosh doing that.
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7/4/2010  5:30 PM
Lebron can leave money on the table cuz he's always going to make more off the court than on. He does now and will continue to make more money from non basketball revenue. He needs to forget about that 6th year and think about winning and how much more money he'll make here over the next 10 years.
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7/4/2010  5:42 PM
Solace wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Solace wrote:Now is Bosh amenable to a sign and trade for Lee?

I have no problem with this, although my first choice for sign and trade is Lee for Carmelo.

Well if the Raptors can get David Lee for 6 years 72mm and bring along Chandler for Bosh--and Bosh gets his 118 mm--then you can probably see some love all the way around. The Raptors getting Lee is not a bad compensation prize

I would not also give Chandler. If we can sign Amare outright without losing Chandler and get him slightly cheaper (no S&T), I would say the price for Bosh is too steep... unless LeBron or Wade is a guarantee.

I agree from the Raptors side. Getting Lee, alone, is the best deal they're going to get for Bosh. I don't see them doing any better. I don't see why we would also give Chandler. They have zero leverage.

They want Lee and Will Chan they'd need to off a one pick I think at least and maybe throw in a second round 7'er

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7/4/2010  5:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/4/2010  5:52 PM
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TMS wrote:only reason i would prefer Bosh is if that's who it would take to get Lebron to NY... i personally think Amare is a better fit for this city & for Lebron's game... even tho Amare's injury history is a risk, he's shown he can still play at an elite level after recovery, which is key.

i'm surprised if Lee would accept a S&T to Toronto (if that's even true), but he's looking to get paid just like everybody else... only way to get his 6th year is through a S&T & i guess the MEM scenario is still shaky in terms of the type of deal he could get from them... Lee & Chandler for Bosh in a S&T would be fine by me if it lands us Lebron James in the end... otherwise if Lebron would sign here to play with Amare, why not just sign Amare outright & use Lee in a S&T for Tony Parker?

Totally agree with you about Stoudemire. I'm hoping Bosh is so joined-at-the-hip with Wade that he'll join him in Miami and Lebron will join Stoudemire here, in NY. According to reports, James supposedly asked management to try and acquire Amare when it was reported the Suns put him on the market during the trade-deadline. I definitely prefer Amare over Bosh. Amare's make-up is tailor made for the city. And as you say, Lee would be available in a sign and trade to San An or another team in a possible three-way.


Once we sign 2 max players, we can't do a sign and trade for Lee. We would be over the cap. So we would have to let Lee go for nothing.

The way to get Tony Parker would be to trade Eddie Curry (expiring contract $11.27 mil) and Chandler ($2.13 mil) for Parker. (expiring $13.5 mil). If we get LeBron and Bosh or Amar'e, this would be a great trade for us.

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7/4/2010  7:00 PM
Markji wrote:
Uptown wrote:
TMS wrote:only reason i would prefer Bosh is if that's who it would take to get Lebron to NY... i personally think Amare is a better fit for this city & for Lebron's game... even tho Amare's injury history is a risk, he's shown he can still play at an elite level after recovery, which is key.

i'm surprised if Lee would accept a S&T to Toronto (if that's even true), but he's looking to get paid just like everybody else... only way to get his 6th year is through a S&T & i guess the MEM scenario is still shaky in terms of the type of deal he could get from them... Lee & Chandler for Bosh in a S&T would be fine by me if it lands us Lebron James in the end... otherwise if Lebron would sign here to play with Amare, why not just sign Amare outright & use Lee in a S&T for Tony Parker?

Totally agree with you about Stoudemire. I'm hoping Bosh is so joined-at-the-hip with Wade that he'll join him in Miami and Lebron will join Stoudemire here, in NY. According to reports, James supposedly asked management to try and acquire Amare when it was reported the Suns put him on the market during the trade-deadline. I definitely prefer Amare over Bosh. Amare's make-up is tailor made for the city. And as you say, Lee would be available in a sign and trade to San An or another team in a possible three-way.


Once we sign 2 max players, we can't do a sign and trade for Lee. We would be over the cap. So we would have to let Lee go for nothing.

The way to get Tony Parker would be to trade Eddie Curry (expiring contract $11.27 mil) and Chandler ($2.13 mil) for Parker. (expiring $13.5 mil). If we get LeBron and Bosh or Amar'e, this would be a great trade for us.

I know we would be over the cap if we sign two max-FA's, I meant Lee in a sign and trade if we miss out on Lebron and we can move Lee to San for Parker if the Knicks are intrigued my Ellis, they can move Lee to Minny in the proposed three-way-deal.....
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7/4/2010  9:05 PM
lee agreeing to go to toronto in S&T means hes not getting great offers and rapturs only team to pay him
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7/4/2010  9:49 PM
Markji wrote:
Uptown wrote:
TMS wrote:only reason i would prefer Bosh is if that's who it would take to get Lebron to NY... i personally think Amare is a better fit for this city & for Lebron's game... even tho Amare's injury history is a risk, he's shown he can still play at an elite level after recovery, which is key.

i'm surprised if Lee would accept a S&T to Toronto (if that's even true), but he's looking to get paid just like everybody else... only way to get his 6th year is through a S&T & i guess the MEM scenario is still shaky in terms of the type of deal he could get from them... Lee & Chandler for Bosh in a S&T would be fine by me if it lands us Lebron James in the end... otherwise if Lebron would sign here to play with Amare, why not just sign Amare outright & use Lee in a S&T for Tony Parker?

Totally agree with you about Stoudemire. I'm hoping Bosh is so joined-at-the-hip with Wade that he'll join him in Miami and Lebron will join Stoudemire here, in NY. According to reports, James supposedly asked management to try and acquire Amare when it was reported the Suns put him on the market during the trade-deadline. I definitely prefer Amare over Bosh. Amare's make-up is tailor made for the city. And as you say, Lee would be available in a sign and trade to San An or another team in a possible three-way.


Once we sign 2 max players, we can't do a sign and trade for Lee. We would be over the cap. So we would have to let Lee go for nothing.

The way to get Tony Parker would be to trade Eddie Curry (expiring contract $11.27 mil) and Chandler ($2.13 mil) for Parker. (expiring $13.5 mil). If we get LeBron and Bosh or Amar'e, this would be a great trade for us.

Lee and TPE to Raptors for Bosh.
Curry and Chandler to SA for Parker.

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7/5/2010  5:46 PM
What about Amare on the 5 year max as is reported, and using Lee for S%T w the Cavs instead so Lebron gets the 6th yr and Cleveland a good player? Wouldn't the Cavs rather get something than nothing? Lee is a low risk investment with a great attitude for a small market team. Byron Scott would like him. Then Lee gets his 6th yr too.
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7/5/2010  5:55 PM
93BUICK wrote:What about Amare on the 5 year max as is reported, and using Lee for S%T w the Cavs instead so Lebron gets the 6th yr and Cleveland a good player? Wouldn't the Cavs rather get something than nothing? Lee is a low risk investment with a great attitude for a small market team. Byron Scott would like him. Then Lee gets his 6th yr too.

If the Cavs lose Lebron they should blow it up because David Lee @ long term dollars does nothing for them. Also David Lee needs to agree and why would he want to go play with Jamison and the mommylover...
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7/5/2010  6:31 PM
VDesai wrote:
93BUICK wrote:What about Amare on the 5 year max as is reported, and using Lee for S%T w the Cavs instead so Lebron gets the 6th yr and Cleveland a good player? Wouldn't the Cavs rather get something than nothing? Lee is a low risk investment with a great attitude for a small market team. Byron Scott would like him. Then Lee gets his 6th yr too.

If the Cavs lose Lebron they should blow it up because David Lee @ long term dollars does nothing for them. Also David Lee needs to agree and why would he want to go play with Jamison and the mommylover...

Lee might do it for the $$$$. He'll get more that way. For the Cavs, it gives them a good player - still young to start the rebuilding process.
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