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kam77
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7/2/2010  6:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/2/2010  6:30 PM
This plan assumes (if we don't get LeBron or Wade obviously)

A) We land AMARE, but rather than a straight 5yr signing, we send PHX back Wilson Chandler in a sNt creating a huge trade player exception for the SUNS since we are so far under the cap and can make lopsided deals like this one. This deal opens up more cap room since we are losing Chandler's 2 million. We may be able to get a pick as well.

B) Still way under the cap and able to make lopsided trades, we trade Eddy Curry to Washington who happily rids itself of Gilbert Arenas, but we tell em we need Javale McGee or no deal.

C) With the remaining 8 mil that we opened up by trading Curry, we can sign a Mike Miller and have enough left over for an Earl Barron.

McGee
Amare
Gallo
Miller
Arenas

Walker, Barron, Douglas, off the bench.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/2/2010  6:43 PM
Plan A is out if Amare's really been renounced by PHO; S&T isn't possible.
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kam77
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7/2/2010  6:45 PM
If that is true, then flip the order and execute the Washington deal first and include Chandler as well.
So now you got McGee and Arenas
Then sign Amare and use the leftover $ for Miller etc.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/2/2010  6:47 PM
If we get Gilbert Arenas I will burn down MSG.
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7/2/2010  6:47 PM
kam77 wrote:If that is true, then flip the order and execute the Washington deal first and include Chandler as well.
So now you got McGee and Arenas
Then sign Amare and use the leftover $ for Miller etc.

why do we want any part of agent not zero?

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7/2/2010  6:48 PM
If we cannot get LeBron or Wade, skimp and scrap to fill out the roster with low money crap. Go get a 7-8 seed this year, and come back to FA next year with big $ to spend and an improved Gallo and Amare in place. We could potentially be the biggest draw in free agency. No need to build Rome in a day. Don't go forcing stuff now
kam77
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7/2/2010  6:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/2/2010  6:51 PM
sidsanders wrote:
kam77 wrote:If that is true, then flip the order and execute the Washington deal first and include Chandler as well.
So now you got McGee and Arenas
Then sign Amare and use the leftover $ for Miller etc.

why do we want any part of agent not zero?

Not the ideal. But the Knicks are walking a fine line between the great FA 2MAX haul or ending up with barely anything. Amare by himself while we lose Lee doesn't make the last two years worth it. There's nothing in 2011 coming. So use Curry to build a roster now. McGee is the kind of Center that would work with Amare and D'antoni.

Plus doesn't it take two seasons for guys to get over Gils injury?

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/2/2010  6:53 PM
kam77 wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
kam77 wrote:If that is true, then flip the order and execute the Washington deal first and include Chandler as well.
So now you got McGee and Arenas
Then sign Amare and use the leftover $ for Miller etc.

why do we want any part of agent not zero?

Not the ideal. But the Knicks are walking a fine line between the great FA 2MAX haul or ending up with barely anything. Amare by himself while we lose Lee doesn't make the last two years worth it. There's nothing in 2011 coming. So use Curry to build a roster now. McGee is the kind of Center that would work with Amare and D'antoni.

Plus doesn't it take two seasons for guys to get over Gils injury?

There are FA in 2011, there will also be players available for trade over the next year who are far more worthwhile in chasing than Gilbert Arenas. Why blow your cap flexability on an overrated chucker. Forget the gun incident and the injuries. When Gilbert was healthy and trouble free he was still incredibly overrated

kam77
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7/2/2010  6:57 PM
If Arenas is such an anvil, then perhaps we can get the Wiz to include more than just JaVale.

I'm trying to be realistic if we strike out on the big names. We all know that the Knicks will not save their pennies for 2011.

If Arenas is the poison pill to swallow that brings in McGee and maybe some #1 picks to replace those we've lost, I could live with that.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/2/2010  7:00 PM
kam77 wrote:If Arenas is such an anvil, then perhaps we can get the Wiz to include more than just JaVale.

I'm trying to be realistic if we strike out on the big names. We all know that the Knicks will not save their pennies for 2011.

If Arenas is the poison pill to swallow that brings in McGee and maybe some #1 picks to replace those we've lost, I could live with that.

Outside of signing LeBron or D-Wade, there is no improving this team to contend in the East by the 2010-2011 season. So why force it and eventually fail anyway. This doesn't have to be a one year plan. If we want to contend for championships, its not going to be a one year plan, unless we land LBJ or Wade

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7/2/2010  7:06 PM
KnicksSince88 wrote:
kam77 wrote:If Arenas is such an anvil, then perhaps we can get the Wiz to include more than just JaVale.

I'm trying to be realistic if we strike out on the big names. We all know that the Knicks will not save their pennies for 2011.

If Arenas is the poison pill to swallow that brings in McGee and maybe some #1 picks to replace those we've lost, I could live with that.

Outside of signing LeBron or D-Wade, there is no improving this team to contend in the East by the 2010-2011 season. So why force it and eventually fail anyway. This doesn't have to be a one year plan. If we want to contend for championships, its not going to be a one year plan, unless we land LBJ or Wade

much agree. we take arenas, we solve the wall/arenas prob for wash. they did us no favors recently...

GO TEAM VENTURE!!!!!
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7/2/2010  7:34 PM
What's with this Arenas crap all a sudden. The guy was suspended for gun charges for bringing them into his locker room and pulling them out. How is that changing any culture.
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7/2/2010  7:43 PM
Pharzeone wrote:What's with this Arenas crap all a sudden. The guy was suspended for gun charges for bringing them into his locker room and pulling them out. How is that changing any culture.

desperation breeds more desperation

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7/2/2010  7:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/2/2010  7:48 PM
The fact that Arenas had the gun incident last year is only like reason #34 on the list of reasons i wouldn't bring him in here. All the off the court stuff is one thing. On the court, the guy is a flawed, inefficient scorer who has been dinged up and will never be worth HALF his contract. Its like a total no brainer not to make that move. I was going to say acquiring Arenas would be an Isiah-like move, but i don't even think Isiah would go there
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7/2/2010  7:49 PM
Isiah would so go there... but then we'd probably already have Baron Davis on the roster by now.
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7/2/2010  8:10 PM
TMS wrote:Isiah would so go there... but then we'd probably already have Baron Davis on the roster by now.

Yup.

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7/2/2010  9:27 PM
TMS wrote:Isiah would so go there... but then we'd probably already have Baron Davis on the roster by now.

That was my point about Isiah a couple of years ago. More than 2/3 of moves were moves that fans clamored for only to kill him for those plans blowing up.

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