Lenny was cooked in Toronto. They bought in Akeem the dream for big money, and Vince got hurt. I think they thought lenny was gonna walk away from his money, the season was done, so they waited until the year ended. Bad for everyone. Vince is a Wussy boy, so I would not take any of his comments.

Oaks comments do bother me some if your an oak fan. With oak, you gotta take the good witht he bad. He is on another planet the last few years not getting the love for whom he is. Oak needs to just retire.

But Wilkins will be effective so long as the players buy into it. IN ATL and TOR, he peaks then loses interest. Might be a note to remember down the road.

Whats up fellas? New member here, and fellow hardcore knicks fan. At the time the move was made, I was a little worried. Lenny Wilkins is a great coach don't get me wrong, but I fell into that negative thinking that he wasn't a tough coach and we needed a more Mike Fratello like coach. With that being said, I re-evaluated that position and some people's thoughts regarding the Raptors performance last year. First off, the Raptors talent level was not there. They just didn't have the squad the Knicks do, and far from any winners. Vince Carter's a baby, and one of the more over-rated players in the NBA. He can speak when he has the type of career Lenny Wilkins did. On a more positive note, Lenny Wilkins is a winner. You think an NBA veteran doesn't adapt to the type of team they have? Are you kidding me? If Lenny evaluates and notices our defense has been lacking, he'll get on the guys about it. We have shown we can put a lot of points on the board, and run the hell out of any team. To all the Marbury-nay sayers, wake up. Who doesn't he make better around him? How does a selfish guy get 10 assists a night? I've never seen the scoring on the Knicks look this balanced. Let's hope we can get the fellas to play tougher D, especially h20 and KVH. We'll make the playoffs, and I agree that we can easily go 25-17 the next 42. I'll re-evaluate after I watch the next few games.

Peace and its good to speak with other Knicks fans

Posted by realhiphop:

Whats up fellas? New member here, and fellow hardcore knicks fan. At the time the move was made, I was a little worried. Lenny Wilkins is a great coach don't get me wrong, but I fell into that negative thinking that he wasn't a tough coach and we needed a more Mike Fratello like coach. With that being said, I re-evaluated that position and some people's thoughts regarding the Raptors performance last year. First off, the Raptors talent level was not there. They just didn't have the squad the Knicks do, and far from any winners. Vince Carter's a baby, and one of the more over-rated players in the NBA. He can speak when he has the type of career Lenny Wilkins did. On a more positive note, Lenny Wilkins is a winner. You think an NBA veteran doesn't adapt to the type of team they have? Are you kidding me? If Lenny evaluates and notices our defense has been lacking, he'll get on the guys about it. We have shown we can put a lot of points on the board, and run the hell out of any team. To all the Marbury-nay sayers, wake up. Who doesn't he make better around him? How does a selfish guy get 10 assists a night? I've never seen the scoring on the Knicks look this balanced. Let's hope we can get the fellas to play tougher D, especially h20 and KVH. We'll make the playoffs, and I agree that we can easily go 25-17 the next 42. I'll re-evaluate after I watch the next few games.

Peace and its good to speak with other Knicks fans

Have to say, Marbury has balled out of his dome the past two games, after a rough first few games. But... His defense has been lacking. Nashty ripped through him on several plays, and he didnt get the stops or communicate when he should have been.

Loved Deke knocking T-Mac in his face twice during the game though.

Wished Allan Houston dunked on T-mac though... or dunked ever. He used to have some hops.

....yawnnn.....

Anyway, just wait to SEE a game so you have something substantial to talk about regarding defense.

Posted by playa2:

Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

I am watching the Lenny Wilkens press conference now, and Lenny just talked about the importance of defense and how he will make improvements in that area.

Who is gonna play defense, this team was put togetherby Zeke to play in the west, only problem is the New Orleans Hornets go to the westnext yr ,not the KNICKS. If lenny goes 5-5 next 10 games we will be lucky.

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good point the best way to beat the West and win it all is not too have a great defense instead have a ton of shooters and great depth and speed. Which is the reason The Kings almost beat the Lakers, had Cwebb not gotten injured. So I think guys like frank and penny can really help us.

Not counting the preseason games, It will take Lenny exactly 42 games to get us to .500. I even think it's possible Lenny will have us leading the entire league after the 43rd games of his tenure.

I'm SO excited!

Posted by MaTT4281:

I'll give lenny about 15 games to get us to .500

From there I think we can go on a nice streak to put us somewhere between 3-5 seed

15 games is a pretty fair stretch. Taking a few lumps is to be expected at some point, bit we should still win more than we lose.

If we can get the 3 or 4 seed, Lenny is the MAN.

[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 01/16/2004 16:28:07]

I'm not sure if Milwalkee will slip. We're half way through the season and they haven't shown any sgins of slipping yet. They beat NJ lastnight! Philly I think is pretty damn good with Iverson, Robinson, Snow, Kenny Thomas, DC, Dalembert, Mckie and Korver. Toronto I don't think is all that good. As someone already said, they are one injury away from disaster. Boston is garbage, we should easily overtake them. If Lafrentz comes back and is his old self, a shot blocker, then I'd be worried but I doubt that.

With all that said, I think with Lenny coaching us we can realistically climb all the way up to the 5th seed and play either NJ or New Orleans in the first round.

You darn skippy it's hopeful. Whenever you bring in (big names) you will sell more tickets and sellout more games ala James Dolan MINDSET. Now if we can win consistantly with a older coach that would be miracle a on Broadway.

Lenny gets 10 days with all this talent to show something. no more no less

Well looks like we will never get to 500 ball with all this agent gm squabbles. The knicks really need to let Zeke coach the team from the tunnel Via (walkie talkie) it's obvious that Zeke is calling the shots and not Lenny.