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How many games will it take wilkens to get us to 500
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playa2
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1/15/2004  7:08 AM
If we lose to seattle with him coaching look for it to be a defensive disaster, if he wins a nd we play tuff defense for the rest of the yr I will give him credit. I give him 10 games to get this team to play good defense.
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1/15/2004  7:14 AM
10 games seems fair enough...
Let the "evaluation" begin!

I think that Lenny Wilkens will turn out okay. I am really optimistic about this move.
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1/15/2004  7:15 AM
To get to .500 we have to go 25 - 17 for the rest of the games. Thats very hard to do. I only wish we had Isiah and a new coach from the begining. Wilkens isn't my first choice but he is an improvement over Chaney and we should judge his record from here on. Have an independent record for Lenny Wilkens. I say he goes .500 the rest of the way.

Looks like we are going to run a lot with Lenny as the coach. He always was into running as opposed to half court offense and slow it down and force bad shots defense.
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1/15/2004  7:47 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:

...we should judge his record from here on. Have an independent record for Lenny Wilkens. I say he goes .500 the rest of the way.

I will go on the record and say that under Lenny, we'll win about 30 games the rest of the way. We will end the season with a record over .500 for the first time in three years.

We'll make the playoffs seeded between 4 and 6, and go deep in those playoffs. If we aquire that low post threat we need so badly, this will definitely happen. That's the one ingredient that we need to make this team a bona fide contender.

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1/15/2004  7:51 AM
Win 30 more games!! I know your happy Hardcore but dont go overboard. I know your giddy about Chaney being fired so I will wait till this weekend for it to sink in.

If he wins 30 more games he will have to go 30-12! Thats better than what the Spurs have ever done. I say he goes something like 22-20 the rest of the way. We'll make the playoffs.
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1/15/2004  7:57 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:

Win 30 more games!! I know your happy Hardcore but dont go overboard. I know your giddy about Chaney being fired so I will wait till this weekend for it to sink in.

If he wins 30 more games he will have to go 30-12! Thats better than what the Spurs have ever done. I say he goes something like 22-20 the rest of the way. We'll make the playoffs.

I hear ya, Silver, I am REALLY happy about this one!
I am serious about this one, though. Watch how this team breaks outta the gate now that the Chaney drama is FINALLY over.

Also, the sooner that next move is made to bring in the low-post threat, the more realistic my prediction sounds. I am also basing that on the move being made in the next week or two.

30 wins, Silver. Please believe it.
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1/15/2004  8:02 AM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

30 wins, Silver. Please believe it.
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1/15/2004  9:14 AM
I think the knicks will make a serious push for 5th place because I think they are better than those other teams. 4th place would be awesome with the home court advantage. I definitely think they can do as good as 25-17 the next 42 games. I don't know about 30 lol The important thing is that we finish the season at our strongest like we did in '99.
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1/15/2004  9:17 AM
I think 40-42 overall or 24-18 with Wilkens. He will provide leadership and better in game decisions. I hope they play better D, but I know they will have a REAL motion offense now.

NY will make the 7 or 8 seed at least.

NY Will beat NJ or Det in the first round!
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1/15/2004  9:32 AM
I would LOVE to see us lay the SMACK down on the damn Nets in the playoffs. Then we can all say that the FLUKE is OVER!!!

We need to add someone to handle offense/defense in the low blocks ASAP.

[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 01/15/2004 09:33:55]
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1/15/2004  10:07 AM
Like Silver...Lenny was not my first choice. I thought we needed a coach that would put more of a defensive emphasis on the team. That said....I think its going to be nearly impossible to get the Knicks to 500 with all of the personel and now coaching changes. IMO the Knicks will go just above 500 for the remaining games, still making the playoffs as a low seed. I hope they prove me wrong.
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1/15/2004  10:34 AM
We are only 3 games out of being the 7th seed !!! Thats all !!! 6 games out of the 6th seed & 7 games out of home court advantage in the first round with a 4th seed !!!! We are talking about Boston ( just Pierce ), Philly ( injuries ), Milwaukee ( fake ), Toronto ( an injury away from falling apart ) and the Hornets ( which will be the heardest to leap frog ) !! Think about it for a sec, it can be done !!! all we have to do is win 6 more games then everyone on this list from here until the last game of the season !!! Head to head matchups will give up half of that !!
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1/15/2004  10:40 AM
Paul Pierce is injured...

Read all about it: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1708964

That translates into a bonus and a better shot for us.
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1/15/2004  10:44 AM
I will go on record and say the Knicks will make the playoffs this year - as far as wins are concerned I wont even guess but they will be playing in the postseason.
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1/15/2004  11:25 AM
I just hope Lenny is saving the best for last. The only thing I can see maybe is Lenny and Isiah coaching philosophy is closer in agreement than most selections stated on this board. Otherwise, I always believed, as I stated earlier before any coaching change, NY should make .500 on talent alone.
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1/15/2004  11:35 AM
We should be able to catch Philly or Boston for the 8th, 7th being a slight possiblity. I'd love to play the Nets, too. It would be awesome to destroy them and abuse all the Nets fans for the entire year till the next seasn lol. As for records, the way the East has fluctuated recently, I have no clue as to what record will actually get us in, but I'm confident we are gonna be in. No way a team with so much talent and star power (Steph) stays out, its just bad for the league, look for refs to start callin for us lol.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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1/15/2004  11:52 AM
With Keith and Allan we're never gonna lead the league in defense. But if Lenny can come in a stress defense we should be alright because our offense will be in full gear under Len.
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1/15/2004  12:18 PM
I am watching the Lenny Wilkens press conference now, and Lenny just talked about the importance of defense and how he will make improvements in that area.
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1/15/2004  12:30 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

I am watching the Lenny Wilkens press conference now, and Lenny just talked about the importance of defense and how he will make improvements in that area.

You and I both know Thomas picked who he thought would be best for this club, Wilkens isnt showtime but he is going to be solid here. Looking forward to some W's.

I did catch most of the game last night too so the Knicks completed the b-day present with the 1st W after the Chaney era ended. It was a great day.
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1/15/2004  12:44 PM
Glad to hear u enjoyed ya B-Day...

If u wanna watch the game, it's on MSG now. It just started...
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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